davidponte 5/9/2020 5:31:51 PM#201
Cool
The final Undisputed Champion in UCA history.
Please

Please

Don't let anime t****** decide these matches
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Nintendogs 5/9/2020 5:32:28 PM#203
So is Persona 5 truly the beneficiary of the Sore Thumb Factor here? That and Persona 4 has looked quite well in taking down western games.
Western games are only good at fighting other western games. Anything from glorious Nippon is pure Indirect Strength vs. Indirect Strength, with maybe a slight inflated edge to Japan for all we know.
It's Reyn Time.
Anclation 5/9/2020 5:34:48 PM#205
KamikazePotato posted...
Xenoblade went from losing to Donkey Kong Country 2 in 2015 to winning its own division. People are already impressed by that, but I think it's also being understated how incredibly well it held up against Ultimate. Nintendo SFF can be brutal, and even if we roll with the notion that it holds up better than 'traditional' Nintendo properties it still outperformed A Link Between Worlds by 6% and only underperformed Mario Odyssey by 4%. That's damn good, and overall it's come a long way.
I'm super happy about Xenoblade staying above 40%. It also won most of Europe, which even if Smash is relatively weak in Europe suggests to me that the effect of Nintendo of America screwing Xenoblade over so hard still lingers.
Yeah... Sorry.
HaRRicH 5/9/2020 5:35:05 PM#206
KamikazePotato posted...
Xenoblade went from losing to Donkey Kong Country 2 in 2015 to winning its own division. People are already impressed by that, but I think it's also being understated how incredibly well it held up against Ultimate. Nintendo SFF can be brutal, and even if we roll with the notion that it holds up better than 'traditional' Nintendo properties it still outperformed A Link Between Worlds by 6% and only underperformed Mario Odyssey by 4%. That's damn good, and overall it's come a long way.

I'm excited to play its remaster coming out soon, and I agree it handled its SFF well. That game'll continue to go up.
LamarJackson 5/9/2020 5:35:24 PM#207
KamikazePotato posted...
Western games are only good at fighting other western games. Anything from glorious Nippon is pure Indirect Strength vs. Indirect Strength, with maybe a slight inflated edge to Japan for all we know.

does that really matter if you still have over 50% of the site willing to vote for Western games? They still win regardless of if they can't get big blowouts against Japanese games.
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transience 5/9/2020 5:35:34 PM#208
Xenoblade being strong is good and all, but it's only relative strength. DKC2 would also be close to a top 10 game in this contest.
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Nice to see Persona 5 putting up a great fight, I guess the upset wasn't too crazy after all.
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transience posted...
Xenoblade being strong is good and all, but it's only relative strength. DKC2 would also be close to a top 10 game in this contest.
This isn't true unless you think Fire Emblem Awakening wins some of these divisions.

CaptainOfCrush posted...
Ok, we need to coin the term Dark Souls Trends
It's Reyn Time.
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LeonhartFour 5/9/2020 5:36:44 PM#211
X-Stats, part 2:

Division 3+4

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 50.00%
Super Mario Odyssey – 44.06%
Xenoblade Chronicles – 40.39%
Persona 4 Golden – 40.22%
Red Dead Redemption – 39.55%
Grand Theft Auto V – 39.36%
Marvel’s Spider-Man – 36.39%
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds – 35.94%
Fire Emblem: Three Houses – 32.60%
Cuphead – 31.29%
Minecraft – 30.82%
Bayonetta – 26.24%
Devil May Cry 5 – 25.28%
Ori and the Blind Forest – 24.62%
Shovel Knight – 23.96%
Octopath Traveler – 23.78%
Dragon Age: Inquisition – 23.68%
Undertale – 22.22%
Dead Space 2 – 21.88%
South Park: The Stick of Truth – 21.74%
Overwatch – 21.55%
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze – 21.54%
XCOM 2 – 19.85%
Death Stranding – 19.01%
FTL: Faster Than Light – 17.88%
Splatoon 2 – 17.42%
Dragon’s Dogma – 17.06%
Tekken 7 – 17.02%
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective – 16.71%
Baba Is You – 16.32%
Dota 2 – 14.97%
Mortal Kombat 11 – 12.36%

Tropical Freeze the turd of the contest confirmed
HaRRicH 5/9/2020 5:37:09 PM#212
Also, I think Witcher 3 and Skyrim have gone up or down together every single update so far.
Nintendogs posted...
So is Persona 5 truly the beneficiary of the Sore Thumb Factor here? That and Persona 4 has looked quite well in taking down western games.
I think Allen did a good job picking images that don't make look Witcher-DkS-Skyrim as aesthetically similar as they actually are
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transience 5/9/2020 5:37:25 PM#214
well, Fire Emblem has fallen off this year compared to 2015. Xenoblade is a little stronger and probably beats DKC2, but it isn't some 60-40 match or anything.
xyzzy
Nintendogs 5/9/2020 5:37:26 PM#215
transience posted...
Xenoblade being strong is good and all, but it's only relative strength. DKC2 would also be close to a top 10 game in this contest.
Is the same true for Sonic 2? Portal 2 lost to that game, making people think that Portal became weak.
MithosLowell 5/9/2020 5:37:26 PM#216
witcher is just directly a alot stronger than persona 5. Its also more available on other rplatforms.

like is said. If persona was on the same amount of platforms as dark souls /witcher / skyrim. This fourpack would be Persona’s little b****.
MithosLowell 5/9/2020 5:38:23 PM#217
LeonhartFour posted...
X-Stats, part 2:

Division 3+4

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 50.00%
Super Mario Odyssey – 44.06%
Xenoblade Chronicles – 40.39%
Persona 4 Golden – 40.22%
Red Dead Redemption – 39.55%
Grand Theft Auto V – 39.36%
Marvel’s Spider-Man – 36.39%
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds – 35.94%
Fire Emblem: Three Houses – 32.60%
Cuphead – 31.29%
Minecraft – 30.82%
Bayonetta – 26.24%
Devil May Cry 5 – 25.28%
Ori and the Blind Forest – 24.62%
Shovel Knight – 23.96%
Octopath Traveler – 23.78%
Dragon Age: Inquisition – 23.68%
Undertale – 22.22%
Dead Space 2 – 21.88%
South Park: The Stick of Truth – 21.74%
Overwatch – 21.55%
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze – 21.54%
XCOM 2 – 19.85%
Death Stranding – 19.01%
FTL: Faster Than Light – 17.88%
Splatoon 2 – 17.42%
Dragon’s Dogma – 17.06%
Tekken 7 – 17.02%
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective – 16.71%
Baba Is You – 16.32%
Dota 2 – 14.97%
Mortal Kombat 11 – 12.36%

Tropical Freeze the turd of the contest confirmed


LMAO Donkey Kong. What the f***
Nintendogs posted...
Is the same true for Sonic 2? Portal 2 lost to that game, making people think that Portal became weak.
Pretty much anything from the SNES/Genesis era that is strong enough to get enough nominations to make the 2015 contest is bruising through this side of the field.
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transience posted...
Xenoblade being strong is good and all, but it's only relative strength. DKC2 would also be close to a top 10 game in this contest.

I actually think it wouldn’t, the top flight of this contest has proved itself.
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There's no real evidence Fire Emblem has fallen. Awakening and Three Houses just ran into opponents that were much stronger than before, and Three Houses failed to reach the expectations we had but it's a new game anyway.

Xenoblade probably gets like 55-56%% on DKC2 now.
It's Reyn Time.
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MithosLowell posted...
LMAO Donkey Kong. What the f***
Odyssey got mad SFF'D. You look at that result and think that DK actually DID run into an Odyssey SFF buzzsaw.
ctesjbuvf 5/9/2020 5:40:03 PM#222
charmander6000 posted...
Nice to see Persona 5 putting up a great fight, I guess the upset wasn't too crazy after all.

I think it's all downhill from here. Person's board vote is usually incredible and it spat out pretty successful rallies from the get go.
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Anclation 5/9/2020 5:40:07 PM#223
transience posted...
Xenoblade being strong is good and all, but it's only relative strength. DKC2 would also be close to a top 10 game in this contest.
Dunno about that, it didn't exactly blow out Fire Emblem: Awakening. Xenoblade on the other hand clobbered Fire Emblem: Three Houses.

Three Houses actually scored a tiny bit less on Xenoblade than Xenoblade scored on Smash Ultimate (40,36% VS 40,39%).
Yeah... Sorry.
That's it, Persona. Stay in the fight.
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LeonhartFour 5/9/2020 5:40:27 PM#225
MithosLowell 5/9/2020 5:40:32 PM#226
Lightning Strikes posted...
Fus Ro Dah indeed.

I actually think it wouldn’t, the top flight of this contest has proved itself.


i think any respected SNEs GAME does really well. You stick a mario world or FF6 in this contest it gets to BOTW.
ctesjbuvf 5/9/2020 5:41:10 PM#227
There might not be clear evidence of Fire Emblem falling, but I'd be surprised if Smash fans wasn't antivoting them.
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LamarJackson 5/9/2020 5:41:15 PM#228
yeah, Souls is done
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transience 5/9/2020 5:41:31 PM#229
Nintendogs posted...
Is the same true for Sonic 2? Portal 2 lost to that game, making people think that Portal became weak.

yeah, I think people really underestimate how weak this contest is because we're comparing relative strengths. I said it in my crew writeup so sorry for repeating, but this match is the only four games out of the bottom 64 that actually belong in a big boy game contest. you could have some fodder like Galaxy 2, Mass Effect 3 or whatever but the only games that actually belong are these four.

it reminds me of the 2005 contest, where Mario went to town and Link/Cloud/Seph were relegated to the tournament of champions bracket. Mario whipped everyone so bad that we thought he had a legit shot at Sephiroth.. and then he just got destroyed, just like in 2003.
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ZeldaTPLink 5/9/2020 5:41:36 PM#230
ctesjbuvf posted...
I think it's all downhill from here. Person's board vote is usually incredible and it spat out pretty successful rallies from the get go.

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ZeldaTPLink posted...
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Mind you, Persona 5 is still a massive underdog at this point with everything we know.
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LeonhartFour 5/9/2020 5:43:11 PM#232
Trend charts:

Time | BOTW | ME2 | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 67.62% | 32.38% | 522 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 68.06% | 31.94% | 3359 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 68.63% | 31.37% | 8534 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 66.16% | 33.84% | 3587 | (6:00-11:00)
TMV | 68.67% | 31.33% | 5257 | (11:00-17:00)
TDV | 69.18% | 30.82% | 5153 | (17:00-24:00)

Zelda dips a bit during the Euro vote but is pretty consistent otherwise.

Time | Smash | Xenoblade | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 63.79% | 36.21% | 522 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 59.90% | 40.10% | 3359 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 61.92% | 38.08% | 8535 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 55.69% | 44.31% | 3586 | (6:00-11:00)
TMV | 57.80% | 42.20% | 5265 | (11:00-17:00)
TDV | 60.16% | 39.84% | 5153 | (17:00-24:00)

Smash slowly regains momentum after its rough night vote.
Nintendogs 5/9/2020 5:43:12 PM#233
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Top 10 worst ageing posts of 2020
The Persona fanbase doesn't go down without a fight. Geralt's gonna have to sweat this one out if he is to survive.
MithosLowell 5/9/2020 5:43:23 PM#234
If theres a Rally for Persona. Witcher isnt going to be allowed to just run away whit

This the End game saga of the contest now. You bring all your f***ing A guns. If Geralt wants to win he has to fight for his Life.
transience posted...
yeah, I think people really underestimate how weak this contest is because we're comparing relative strengths. I said it in my crew writeup so sorry for repeating, but this match is the only four games out of the bottom 64 that actually belong in a big boy game contest. you could have some fodder like Galaxy 2, Mass Effect 3 or whatever but the only games that actually belong are these four.
That's being pretty disrespectful toward God of War and The Last of Us. The latest GoW is unquestionably the strongest in its series - stronger than the original, which has had success here in the past.
transience 5/9/2020 5:44:05 PM#236
maybe. I don't think very highly of God of War, and Last of Us looks to be weaker than Mario Kart 8.
xyzzy
Maybe tropical freeze would have been more successful if Nintendo didn’t try to package a 5 year old game for 60 bucks
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ctesjbuvf 5/9/2020 5:44:27 PM#238
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Top 10 worst ageing posts of 2020

Lol well, it is still early. I doubt it's close by the end unless I really underestimate the rallies.
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Anclation 5/9/2020 5:45:00 PM#239
KamikazePotato posted...
There's no real evidence Fire Emblem has fallen. Awakening and Three Houses just ran into opponents that were much stronger than before, and Three Houses failed to reach the expectations we had but it's a new game anyway.

Xenoblade probably gets like 55-56%% on DKC2 now.
Xenoblade's place in the Nintendo hierarchy is an interesting question now. It utterly destroyed Splatoon 2, almost 60 percented Three Houses, and broke 40% on Smash Ultimate.

I assume the GameFAQs Nintendo hierarchy is Zelda-Smash-Mario-Metroid (hell, Metroid might be over Mario nowadays), but after that, what Nintendo series would be above Xenoblade? Fire Emblem is certainly below it, that much is clear.
Yeah... Sorry.
LeonhartFour 5/9/2020 5:45:36 PM#240
Anclation posted...
I assume the GameFAQs Nintendo hierarchy is Zelda-Smash-Mario-Metroid (hell, Metroid might be over Mario nowadays), but after that, what Nintendo series would be above Xenoblade? Fire Emblem is certainly below it, that much is clear.


uhhh put Pokemon in there way above Metroid
CaptainOfCrush posted...
That's being pretty disrespectful toward God of War and The Last of Us. The latest GoW is unquestionably the strongest in its series - stronger than the original, which has had success here in the past.
I don't know about GoW, but Last of Us was 50th place in the 2015 xstats. It's definitely something that comes to mind as a GotD only wonder.
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davidponte 5/9/2020 5:45:49 PM#242
Well that was an update
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LeonhartFour 5/9/2020 5:45:52 PM#243
MithosLowell 5/9/2020 5:46:46 PM#244
LiquidOshawott posted...
Maybe tropical freeze would have been more successful if Nintendo didn’t try to package a 5 year old game for 60 bucks

Thats Nintendo. The same company who remade LA and charged 60 bucks for a game you can 100% in less than 20 hours.

DK is a great game. But its a wii u game. Thats the bottom line
Anclation 5/9/2020 5:47:27 PM#245
LeonhartFour posted...
uhhh put Pokemon in there way above Metroid
Oh, forgot about Pokemon, guess the series is already dead to me, lol. Yeah, that's also above Xenoblade, though it will probably lose ground to the other top Nintendo series due to Game Freak's antics.
Yeah... Sorry.
I would take Fire Emblem over Metroid with 80% before I would take Metroid over Mario.
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Also this decade clearly has some big dogs. Also I feel that when you break it down by generation for the fourth and on the distribution of big boy games starts looking pretty even. Generations got a lot longer in the past 15 years after all.
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
I don't know about GoW, but Last of Us was 50th place in the 2015 xstats.
50th place makes it plenty worthy to enter a "real" games contest, and at least in the discussion if that contest were limited to 64 entrants.
ctesjbuvf 5/9/2020 5:48:28 PM#249
So you were all saying?

Seriously, blasting its rallies from the get go and usual trends in mind, Persona needed to be ahead now.
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MithosLowell 5/9/2020 5:48:34 PM#250
LeonhartFour posted...
uhhh put Pokemon in there way above Metroid

the only pokemon game relevant is RBY

metroid prime and super would best every other pokemon comfortably.

in fact prime and super would beat most mario games that arent snes nes or n64 ones

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