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wolfgod37 posted... I'm curious can anyone tell how well DQ11 would do against Persona 5 for comparison? well, for some reference, Persona 5 held BotW to about 65% back in the 2017 GoTY poll. and its likely to be much stronger now (but BotW itself could also be stronger) |
Team Rocket Elite posted... I'm not super familiar on the DQ hierarchy. Would it be unusual for DQ11 to be stronger than DQ8? DQ11 should be stronger than DQ8, thanks to Smash + a Switch port at the very least. It's also got favorable circumstances, since traditional turn based JRPGs were still a dime a dozen when 8 came out which made it hard to stand out from the crowd, but were near extinction when 11 came out. congrats to BKSheikah the BYIG guru (edited 5/4/2020 9:35:02 PM) |
DQVIII to DQXI are more or less like comparing Persona 4 to Persona 5 (in terms of strength in these contests), probably. |
Sharinnegan posted... well, for some reference, Persona 5 held BotW to about 65% back in the 2017 GoTY poll. and its likely to be much stronger now (but BotW itself could also be stronger)Yeah, I'd think Persona 5 would do better today than back then. Is anybody wavering about BotW being a lock to win the contest? Just curious :). |
DQXI > DQVIII shouldn't even be a question tbh If
you're only on this board to whine about "SJWs", please redirect
whatever you type on to the nearest trash can. And hop in after it. |
How do you see your second chance bracket. I may be blind, but that's ok lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll |
LOLIAmAnAlt posted... How do you see your second chance bracket. Life is pain and misery beat skeet to asian street meat |
wolfgod37 posted... Yeah, I'd think Persona 5 would do better today than back then.Yeah, no. |
Haste_2 posted... FFX is expected to beat DQ8 with 73.8% (based on 2015 x-stats), so that would predict FFX beats BotW with 57.74% if 8 and 11 are equal.this is the biggest piece of evidence that 11 > 8 imo |
It's official. None of you should be deciding Game of the Decade. |
Woke up, checked the results. As expected. Almost. So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest! |
This
would suggest that Sekiro breaks 65% on The Outer Worlds - AFTER you
account for Monster Hunter’s rally against Dragon Quest. No way there
haven’t been between round shenanigans. Next round will give a better
picture. I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh Advokaiser |
Also I find it funny that a game wins a division with 70% yet people still complain that it isn't doing as good as expected! So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest! |
DQXI
doubling FFXV makes a lot more sense when you remember that FFXV is
equal in strength to Hollow Knight, in a contest which has been pretty
bad for indie games past some Round 1 upsets. I'll admit I know virtually nothing about DQXI so I had no idea how "well" it was supposed to do. "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
dragon quest is a beast SuperNiceChao about to win the Oracle 2020! TsunamiXXVIII and me will destroy all you noobs |
Man I wish DQ 11 was in another division to see if it could won the division. @LinkMarioSamus DQ 11 is way too good. If you have a Switch try the demo. It took me around 7 hours to beat it and I didn't do everything. Yeah a demo that is around 8 hours long. The game is awesome! So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest! |
I do have a Switch. "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Comparing the current poll with the two other times the question was asked is a bit interesting. FFV might beat GTAV for once! n2k |
Hey Persona is being a beast in that poll. |
DQ11 would wipe the floor with 8 |
LusterSoldier posted... Favorite "5" game poll today:It's missing Dragon Quest V |
Glad to see FFV going from fourth to third Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to Advokaiser, the winner of the Character Battle X guru contest. |
not just DQV, but also missing Mega Man X5 and Yakuza 5 |
I'd
say DQXI and DQVIII would be pretty even. It's not like the games are
drastically different in quality. Which then brings up this poll: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6115-best-game-ever-day-17-round-2-chrono-trigger-vs-dragon-quest CT looked like a monster that contest up until Melee got rallied (who then lost to another rally). Come watch me on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/gameryogi (edited 5/5/2020 5:25:15 AM) |
Out of curiosity, I calculated the stats if DQ11 = ME2: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 50,00% Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age 30,14% Mass Effect 2 30,14% Resident Evil 2 28,77% Bloodborne 28,68% Monster Hunter: World 28,16% Horizon Zero Dawn 27,05% Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice 24,90% DOOM 24,42% Borderlands 2 24,30% Fire Emblem: Awakening 24,15% Bravely Default: Flying Fairy 23,68% Resident Evil 7: biohazard 22,34% Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch 20,63% Fallout 4 19,96% Final Fantasy XV 19,76% Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night 19,62% Hollow Knight 19,59% Deus Ex: Human Revolution 17,99% Bastion 16,93% The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series 16,17% Halo: Reach 15,14% The Outer Worlds 14,98% Tales of Berseria 14,57% Life is Strange 13,28% The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC 11,65% VVVVVV 11,29% Call of Duty: Black Ops 11,17% Fortnite 10,32% What Remains of Edith Finch 10,02% Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair 9,71% INSIDE 6,81% |
I would liken DQ8 and DQ11 to the difference between FF6 and FF7 in terms of fan popularity (edited 5/5/2020 5:37:21 AM) |
The main difference is that DQ8 didn’t have a release on a main Nintendo console and a character be in Smash at the time. Honestly, the former’s pretty huge. Look at Tales of Symphonia and Octopath I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VI |
how much would Ultimate get on Brawl? |
LiquidOshawott posted... The main difference is that DQ8 didn’t have a release on a main Nintendo console and a character be in Smash at the time. Forget that. Look at Bravely Default. That may be 3DS, but seriously. Look at it. Not a stinky alien. :( Nintendo Switch Code: SW-5719-6555-8388 (edited 5/5/2020 5:49:16 AM) |
(edited 5/5/2020 7:03:42 AM) |
OK,
I'm now fully on board with MetalmindStats and others that turbofodder
vs turbofodder matches are largely not transitive and are misleading
xstats wise. I'm almost certain Bastion underperformed a good amount now against The Walking Dead due to TWD being the big board/guru favorite and getting the bracket votes, while Life is Strange underperformed against Halo: Reach for similar reasons. Otherwise, projecting BotW through LiS and TWD makes no sense. Tales of Berseria might also be underrated quite a bit in the xstats due to being buried under 2 rounds (ToB vs HK, HK vs FFXV) of artificial bracket voting. congrats to BKSheikah the BYIG guru |
I'm surprised Catherine didn't make it over fodder like Baba is you and VVVVV |
Persona
5's looking good in the PotD today, but props to Skyrim too: this is a
poll it could have lost in a time we've been kinda down on its
performances, but it's winning. What do the stats look like when we make this relationship of Skyrim (26.82%) > Persona 5 (24.19%) hold true? O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png |
Lolruz posted... I'm surprised Catherine didn't make it over fodder like Baba is you and VVVVVI'm surprised Catherine didn't make it too, but not necessarily over those two games. O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png |
"Yeah, there's a 0% chance chance Mass Effect 2 makes it out of this division." - TheCodeisBosco, 2020 Posted this during R1 after seeing all the other major D2 players fire on all cylinders, watching ME2 put up seemingly disappointing numbers on RE7, and recalling that Shepard almost choked to a beer-bellied crocodile. What can I say? When I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Props to those who kept the faith in Shepard here. This pretty much torpedoes my second chance bracket out of the gate - I took RE2 with 52% here. However, I actually have ME2 winning in my main bracket, which certainly helps this crow I'm eating go down easier. The music was thud-like. The music was... thud-like. (edited 5/5/2020 7:45:36 AM) |
how is the amount of votes tracking compared to previous rounds? could we get to 30k votes? |
I
know using an 8-way poll is a bad idea, but there isn't much room
between Skyrim and Persona 5 for Witcher 3 to fall in between. It's more
likely Witcher 3 is either going to the final or it is going to lose to
Persona 5. Game of the Decade 2 - Current Score: 172/192 Today's Picks: LoZ: BotW and RE2 |
TheCodeisBosco posted... "Yeah, there's a 0% chance chance Mass Effect 2 makes it out of this division." - TheCodeisBosco, 2020No shame in RE2 in second chance. A lot of us went for it, because the risk-reward was huge. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
Tomorrow is my last day on the leaderboard and I just gotta say, it's been fun while it lasted. .-#Elements of Water#-. |
Lolruz posted... how is the amount of votes tracking compared to previous rounds? could we get to 30k votes? We're currently about 2000 votes ahead of the first day of the contest. At this pace, we would be expected to break 25000 votes today, We haven't even gotten above 30000 votes during this entire contest so far. Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Advokaiser, Guru Champ! |
charmander6000 posted... I know using an 8-way poll is a bad idea, but there isn't much room between Skyrim and Persona 5 for Witcher 3 to fall in between. It's more likely Witcher 3 is either going to the final or it is going to lose to Persona 5.We already know Witcher is stronger than Skyrim, unless someone is really going to go to bat for Mario Kart > Mario Galaxy. If anything the 5 poll is seriously making me wonder if I would take P5 over Dark Souls/Skyrim. If
you're only on this board to whine about "SJWs", please redirect
whatever you type on to the nearest trash can. And hop in after it. |
HaRRicH posted... Persona 5's looking good in the PotD today, but props to Skyrim too: this is a poll it could have lost in a time we've been kinda down on its performances, but it's winning. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – 50.00% Persona 5 - 47.41% Mario Kart 8 – 39.10% Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End – 32.18% Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn – 31.00% Sonic Mania - 30.45% Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - 27.44% Journey – 25.02% Sid Meier's Civilization V - 23.90% Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA - 22.69% Super Meat Boy - 21.41% Heavy Rain - 20.59% Crypt of the NecroDancer – 17.65% Fate/Grand Order – 16.91% Subnautica – 16.00% Slay the Spire - 13.29% |
of course this POTD result would spell very bad things for Mario Odyssey...! probably Persona 4 too |
That poll today is proof that Persona 5 would take Skyrim. There are 5 japanese games vs 3 western games. Persona wins 55/45 imo |
@LusterSoldier (or anyone else) do you have the second chance scoring saved in cache or anywhere else? |
adamko posted... That poll today is proof that Persona 5 would take Skyrim. There are 5 japanese games vs 3 western games. Persona wins 55/45 imoBy this logic, Hearthstone would have beaten Divinity. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
I
don't know if I would frame it as Japanese vs Western so to speak, but I
do feel that P5 is the game that is getting weighed down more in that
poll. Still, best not to read too much into a frickin 8-way. If
you're only on this board to whine about "SJWs", please redirect
whatever you type on to the nearest trash can. And hop in after it. |
Persona 5 stands out like a sore thumb in the poll. If anything, it's benefitting from the format |
squexa posted... OK, I'm now fully on board with MetalmindStats and others that turbofodder vs turbofodder matches are largely not transitive and are misleading xstats wise. There's a mathematical explanation in creativename's site for it, too. http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/11 xstats just don't work that well in big blowouts. |
Play Dragon Quest XI |
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