tgs2 4/27/2020 2:25:08 PM#351
UltimaterializerX posted...
I'll be shocked if Smash beats Odyssey. The trends leading into that thing are equal to Witcher and Skyrim. One just looks so much better than the other.

Another thing it could look like all over again is Bowser/Kirby. That is good news for Smash if you believe in it.
There's a point where you just have to believe what you see

Leon did the x-stats for the Smash/Odyssey Division and they look wacky if you take Smash to win.
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Leonhart4 4/27/2020 2:28:51 PM#353
Yeah, we've seen Nintendo matches where one entrant looks clearly stronger than the other and then the match itself doesn't play out that way. We've seen it happen in both Bowser/Kirby matches.

Heck, Melee was considered to be the favorite going into the match against Brawl, and that didn't work out either!
deeewooh 4/27/2020 2:38:21 PM#354
lordjers posted...
How does SMG2 compare to MK64 and SMK? Cause I'd guess MK8 is the third top MK at the moment.
MK8 is the best mario kart game. it would wipe the floor with 64 in a contest like this
Leonhart4 4/27/2020 2:39:04 PM#355
deeewooh posted...
MK8 is the best mario kart game. it would wipe the floor with 64 in a contest like this

LOL no
swirIdude 4/27/2020 2:48:13 PM#356
deeewooh posted...
MK8 is the best mario kart game. it would wipe the floor with 64 in a contest like this

You must be new here.
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At least I finished 20th overall!
Safer_777 4/27/2020 2:49:01 PM#357
Yeah for sure.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest!
transcience 4/27/2020 2:49:20 PM#358
that sentence has two statements in it. #1 can be true but #2 rarely follows due to how cryogenic this site is.
add the c and back away
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tgs2 posted...
Another thing it could look like all over again is Bowser/Kirby. That is good news for Smash if you believe in it.
Ultimate is my second favorite game ever behind Tactics. I would love if it won this contest.

But if it loses, there are definitely worse games than Odyssey or BotW to lose to!
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deeewooh posted...
MK8 is the best mario kart game. it would wipe the floor with 64 in a contest like this
The way this site favors nostalgia over current day, it'd be lucky if Diddy Kong Racing didn't eat its lunch, much less 64.
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transcience 4/27/2020 2:51:15 PM#361
that makes me wonder though. put mk64 in this contest. how many games beat it? it’s such a weird thing to think about.
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transcience posted...
that makes me wonder though. put mk64 in this contest. how many games beat it? it’s such a weird thing to think about.
I would probably say Top 15-ish. I'll make a comparison to another legendary N64 multiplayer experience in Goldeneye, which again, would eat most of this bracket alive, but didn't really have much of a shot at Skyrim when they faced in 2015.
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Sharinnegan 4/27/2020 2:53:34 PM#363
MK64 would be the strongest but im not sure by how much

like, i'm fairly sure it still wouldnt be beating Skyrim here.
ZeldaTPLink 4/27/2020 2:57:51 PM#364
Sharinnegan posted...
MK64 would be the strongest but im not sure by how much

like, i'm fairly sure it still wouldnt be beating Skyrim here.

It's not beating BotW that's for sure.
Safer_777 4/27/2020 3:01:48 PM#365
Top 10 for sure.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest!
Probably the best way of looking at the hypothetical MK64 question is: which games in the final 16 do you think it could take?

Dragon Quest XI?
Either of the Div 2 finalists?
Persona 4 Golden?
Xenoblade?
Portal 2?
The Last of Us?
Pokemon Heart Gold?
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Nintendogs 4/27/2020 3:10:33 PM#367
Yuri_LowelI posted...
i would love to see that poll

i would LOVE to see Brawl get absolutely destroyed and come last
That didn't happen:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7577-what-is-the-best-all-time-super-smash-bros-game

The tissues are at the corner, Yuri.
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swirIdude 4/27/2020 3:11:57 PM#368
Nintendogs posted...
That didn't happen:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7577-what-is-the-best-all-time-super-smash-bros-game

The tissues are at the corner, Yuri.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BkxN5x6d-g 

That poll really illustrates why Smash 4 didn't make this bracket.
Advokaiser picked Cloud in Guru and rained on my bracket.
At least I finished 20th overall!
lordjers 4/27/2020 3:12:06 PM#369
If someone attempted to rally in say, MK64 vs. The Last of Us, there wouldn't be lack of Reddit comments of the "Why would these two face? What a weird contest!" sort.
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4/27/2020 3:12:39 PM#370
Regarding Super Mario Kart:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3454-division-3-round-1-gunstarheroes-sonic-3-s-mario-kart-s
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3482-division-3-round-2-s-metroid-s-mario-kart-zelda-lttp-dk

It went even with Super Metroid twice in 2009 and that's all we know about the game.
Link isn't the only one who kicks ass.
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Advokaiser 4/27/2020 3:20:41 PM#371
We need a "Which is the best/your favorite Mario Kart game?" poll.
It's an honor being part of Board 8's community.
ctesjbuvf 4/27/2020 3:25:04 PM#372
There's no way GTAV is not turd of the round. Not saying Skyrim isn't weaker than in 2015, but this was what purple thought it'd get on average.

Meanwhile, GTAV was the heavy favorite this round because P4G only barely beat RDR and we instead saw the same match only where GTAV ended up slightly worse than RDR. GTAV losing also crowned a winner in Last Man Standing because all but 1 remaining user felt safe enough about it.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to Advokaiser, the winner of the Character Battle X guru contest.
So...

MGS5 vs. Mario Kart 8?
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FFDragon 4/27/2020 3:27:18 PM#374
Easy Mario Kart.
If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
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Safer_777 4/27/2020 3:32:36 PM#375
So Smash 4 didn't had a subtitle like the other Smash games?
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest!
Safer_777 posted...
So Smash 4 didn't had a subtitle like the other Smash games?
Super Smash Bros for Wii U/3DS

That's what it was called. Wii U era was easily Nintendo at its most creatively bankrupt and it showed even in stuff like that
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transcience 4/27/2020 3:34:19 PM#377
I think it’s easy to forget how weak a contest is when you spend weeks comparing intra-contest results. I think mk64 would wreck dark souls, for example.
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deeewooh 4/27/2020 3:34:26 PM#378
A garbage broken piece of s*** game like MK64 has nothing on Mario Kart 8. not even on this site.
'for 3DS and 'for Wii U' were the actual, real subtitles. Cause, you know, it was the 4th Smash game, and 'for' reads like 'four' and...yeah they weren't the best titles.
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ZeldaTPLink 4/27/2020 3:34:42 PM#380
Safer_777 posted...
So Smash 4 didn't had a subtitle like the other Smash games?

The official names are "Super Smash Bros for WiiU" and "Super Smash Bros for 3DS"
ZeldaTPLink 4/27/2020 3:35:08 PM#381
deeewooh posted...
A garbage broken piece of s*** game like MK64 has nothing on Mario Kart 8. not even on this site.

Where is all the hate coming from
adamko 4/27/2020 3:36:56 PM#382
Bold prediction: BotW won't get over 70 on DQ11.
ZeldaTPLink 4/27/2020 3:37:21 PM#383
transcience posted...
I think it’s easy to forget how weak a contest is when you spend weeks comparing intra-contest results. I think mk64 would wreck dark souls, for example.

Imo it goes like this:

This contest --- Normal Contest

Turbofodder --- not even nominated
Fodder --- Turbofodder
Midcarder --- Fodder
Elite --- Midcarder
BotW --- Elite

I don't think MK64 would wreck Dark Souls. It would be a competitive match that I think Dark Souls takes by a little bit.
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hylianknight3 4/27/2020 3:39:26 PM#385
I have always held that it should have been titled Super Smash Bros. Foray.
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My bracket was soft... just like my heart!
Safer_777 4/27/2020 3:40:46 PM#386
Really? This is like calling a game something like Call Of Duty for PS4. Doesn't make sense.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest!
Safer_777 posted...
Really? This is like calling a game something like Call Of Duty for PS4. Doesn't make sense.
Titling sense left the games industry a long time ago

That's why we have titles like 'God of War' and 'Tomb Raider' for games that aren't actually continuity reboots
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It's a better title than if they had just called it "Super Smash Bros."

Hahaha imagine if they gave a game the same title as something it's a sequel to

What AAA developer would do that
Advokaiser is the man. Congrats!
lordjers 4/27/2020 3:42:58 PM#389
Nintendogs posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7577-what-is-the-best-all-time-super-smash-bros-game

To be fair Ultimate Sffs Smash 4 to the ends of the world and back.
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Heropon_Riki 4/27/2020 3:44:10 PM#390
The Smash community is really bizarre and unpredictable in general. They tend to have a love/hate relationship with Smash games and change their opinions on a dime based on random nonsense like "I don't like one of the 11 DLC characters added to a game with 70+ fighters, therefore it's all ruined now." There's a video that's been making the rounds nitpicking about stuff like buffering and character gimmicks that seems to have turned some people against Ultimate lately despite it having very positive reception at launch. Smash also has a complicated relationship with more casual fans who typically love the game itself but get soured on it by toxic fans.

At the very least it's definitely a more unstable relationship than Mario Odyssey fans who are generally more like "this game is fun and I like it." So who even knows how that match will go.

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KamikazePotato posted...
I don't think MK64 would wreck Dark Souls. It would be a competitive match that I think Dark Souls takes by a little bit.
Yeah, Mario Kart 64 is not taking down the top players in this contest. It might take down some of the weaker entries in the top 16, but if Goldeneye can't beat Skyrim (even with Skyrim losing a bit of luster, I don't think that result flips), I don't think think Mario Kart 64 can beat one of the top tier entrants in this contest like Dark Souls.
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Mac Arrowny 4/27/2020 3:45:37 PM#393
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3484-division-4-round-2-goldeneye-s-mario-rpg-ff7-mariokart64

Not a good poll for comparison, but it wouldn't be wrecking Dark Souls if we assume it gets, say, 43% on Super Mario RPG.

lordjers posted...


To be fair Ultimate Sffs Smash 4 to the ends of the world and back.


Which is why it didn't get nominated. What's your point?
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Heropon_Riki posted...
There's a video that's been making the rounds nitpicking about stuff like buffering and character gimmicks that seems to have turned some people against Ultimate lately despite it having very positive reception at launch
I know the video you're talking and tbf the buffering complaints are valid, I just don't think they're the game ruining thing the guy makes them out to be.

But yes online Smash fans are cancer. At in-person tournaments tho most ppl tend to be pleasant, although I have seen more than one controller launched in the past (and the TOs never seem to do s*** about these ppl so long as they play decently enough)
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4/27/2020 3:48:31 PM#395
ZeldaTPLink posted...


Where is all the hate coming from


Well when you are just about to cross the finish line and Mario Kart happens, it can be hard to let it go.
Link isn't the only one who kicks ass.
Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Contest!
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Well when you are just about to cross the finish line and Mario Kart happens, it can be hard to let it go.
That's quite the elaborate blue shell joke.
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lordjers 4/27/2020 3:49:52 PM#397
Safer_777 posted...
Really? This is like calling a game something like Call Of Duty for PS4. Doesn't make sense.

Is Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII really better?

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lordjers 4/27/2020 3:52:03 PM#398
Mac Arrowny posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3484-division-4-round-2-goldeneye-s-mario-rpg-ff7-mariokart64

Not a good poll for comparison, but it wouldn't be wrecking Dark Souls if we assume it gets, say, 43% on Super Mario RPG.

Which is why it didn't get nominated. What's your point?

That the poll makes it look worse than it really is.
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ChrisZewski 4/27/2020 3:53:37 PM#399
The most interesting part about the quarantined Smash community starting up online tournaments to fill the void is watching pro players slowly turn just as cancerous as the community at large
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