Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1345

It's not like Witcher 3 is a bad game to be fodderized by.

ME3 shouldn't be fodderized by anything.

Witcher 3 is like the antithesis of ME3 in terms of the narrative and the choices you make. Where ME3 it ultimately doesn't matter all that much what you did.

Where in the Witcher 3, it does, and you can get drastically different endings to various major quests which in turn also affects the over all ending as well. Instead of you know, here's 3 choices, pick one.

It's a nightmare matchup for ME3.

I mean, your choices in ME3 (and the games prior) absolutely impact the way the game plays out. Everyone just focuses on the limited ending choices as if that's the only thing your choices should (mass) affect.

Everything should be fodderized by Witcher

Praise Geraldo

Leonhart4 posted...

I mean, your choices in ME3 (and the games prior) absolutely impact the way the game plays out. Everyone just focuses on the limited ending choices as if that's the only thing your choices should (mass) affect.

I don't necessarily disagree! I really enjoy ME3 a lot, but the impact of the choices is completely different between the games.

The ending is just the biggest reason why people tend to have gripe with the game(outside of maybe diminishing RPG elements.

ME 3 is the game that I made friends playing online and we were playing the game every day for at least 3 months. Really fun times.

You know something's wrong when people start a rally for New Vegas or Dark Souls and the most benefitted game is The Witcher III.

Advokaiser posted...

You know something's wrong when people start a rally for New Vegas or Dark Souls and the most benefitted game is The Witcher III.

It means we're rallying the wrong people when the two best games in the contest are suffering the most!

Or maybe most people don't share your taste in 2010s games.

Leonhart4 posted...

It means we're rallying the wrong people when the two best games in the contest are suffering the most!

dark souls 3? That game is average

Interested in seeing if RDR2/ACNL turns into a sneaky-good match.

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Or maybe most people don't share your taste in 2010s games.

Even by your standards, this is a profoundly useless post.

Leonhart4 posted...

It means we're rallying the wrong people when the two best games in the contest are suffering the most!

ME3...?

Man if I don't make the leaderboard today, I'm gonna have to rely on that Sonic Mania win.

lordjers posted...

Man if I don't make the leaderboard today, I'm gonna have to rely on that Sonic Mania win.

Sonic Mania is my only questionable result left in round 2. I'm hoping the rest are right.

Advokaiser posted...

ME3...?

And Galaxy 2, yes.

lordjers posted...

Man if I don't make the leaderboard today, I'm gonna have to rely on that Sonic Mania win.

I'm in the same boat!

ME3 has major major problems that aren’t the ending.

Like remember how there’s a crew member who was a major part of the story? On disc launch day DLC. Just as one of the more egregious examples.

I've never claimed ME3 is a flawless game! I just think that one particular complaint is overstated.

plasmabeam posted...

Interested in seeing if RDR2/ACNL turns into a sneaky-good match.

Me too, there's only so weak Street Fight V can be and New Leaf doubled it.

At the very least the vote swing will be crazy...

charmander6000 posted...

Me too, there's only so weak Street Fight V can be and New Leaf doubled it.

At the very least the vote swing will be crazy...

SFV can be very, very weak, actually.

SFV has disappointed a lot of SF fans and SF4 was already not that strong too.

lol xtrapolation implies ACNL = RDR2 leads to Street Fighter getting 72.23% on Dying Light

Having a hard time seeing that happening unless Dying Light is Witness level.

Street Fighter IV wasn't that bad in 2010. Even if IV doubles V before SFF, that's not the worst position for New Leaf. It won't win, but it'd have a respectable performance.

HaRRicH posted...

SFV has disappointed a lot of SF fans and SF4 was already not that strong too.

This makes me sad because 4 was incredible.

So Mass Effect 2/Fallout 4 and Mass Effect 3/StarCraft II are so far the only two matches where BioWare didn't look bad.

LOL Bethesda and Blizzard. The Last of Us to 80-20 Diablo III and Dark Souls to 60-40 Skyrim.

charmander6000 posted...

Street Fighter IV wasn't that bad in 2010. Even if IV doubles V before SFF, that's not the worst position for New Leaf. It won't win, but it'd have a respectable performance.

Oh, it can do respectably depending on your definition of the term, but no one should seriously expect it to win or even come that close.

SFV at the moment is shocking. The online is near unplayable.

UltimaterializerX posted...

This makes me sad because 4 was incredible.

Excuse me sir, the word you were looking for is indestructable.

FFDragon posted...

Excuse me sir, the word you were looking for is indestructable.

Man, the memories...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

So Mass Effect 2/Fallout 4 and Mass Effect 3/StarCraft II are so far the only two matches where BioWare didn't look bad.

LOL Bethesda and Blizzard. The Last of Us to 80-20 Diablo III and Dark Souls to 60-40 Skyrim.

dark souls skyrim is going to be one of those 51-49 either way matches

Witcher is the only game from this half capable of laying a beat down on skyrim.

Whoever made this bracket must be a Skyrim fanboy for sure, look at its path, the easiest path in the whole contest.

ShortReplies posted...

Whoever made this bracket must be a Skyrim fanboy for sure, look at its path, the easiest path in the whole contest.

Breath of the Wild's division is pathetically easy

I think every 1 seed would win that division

LeonhartFour posted...

Breath of the Wild's division is pathetically easy

I think every 1 seed would win that division

No, its easy because that game is a winner in most people bracket anyway, so it doesnt matter where you put it its gonna have good results.
HOWEVER, Skyrim is known to have a lot of people that think its mediocre, so putting it in Division 5 for example would risk its chances of reaching far in the contest.

LeonhartFour posted...

Breath of the Wild's division is pathetically easy

I think every 1 seed would win that division

I would not take GTA over Dragon Quest.

I think I would, but it'd be close. I think 60% on Cuphead is better than 70% on Bastion, but not by a lot.

Yeah, DQXI's performance against Bastion underwhelmed me.

What do you guys think about God of War? it looks very strong, i think it should have been first seed instead of Skyrim.

Does Skyrim lose to any non-1 seed game? Maybe Super Mario Odyssey...

charmander6000 posted...

Does Skyrim lose to any non-1 seed game? Maybe Super Mario Odyssey...

God of War is really strong, should be 1st Seed, its highly rated everywhere and is popular and won a lot of awards.

I feel Division 1 had a lot of games that could have been really strong.

Monster Hunter World, Sekiro, Hollow Knight, Dragon Quest, even FFXV are all games that potentially could have caused a bit of a ruckus, at least in Allen's mind. They certainly all ended up pretty close to each other in strength, just nothing that would even register as a blip to BotW.

But no, Skyrim has one of the most hilariously easy paths to Division Finals. Its 8v9 seed battle was one of the most pathetically weak matches in bracket, and even its Round 3 opponent is either a kart racing game or an MMO. From big name franchises, but come on.

Maybe swap Persona 5 with God of War?

MechanicalWall posted...

I feel Division 1 had a lot of games that could have been really strong.

Monster Hunter World, Sekiro, Hollow Knight, Dragon Quest, even FFXV are all games that potentially could have caused a bit of a ruckus, at least in Allen's mind. They certainly all ended up pretty close to each other in strength, just nothing that would even register as a blip to BotW.

But no, Skyrim has one of the most hilariously easy paths to Division Finals. It's 8v9 seed battle was one of the most pathetically weak matches in bracket, and even its Round 3 opponent is either a kart racing game or an MMO. From big name franchises, but come on.

Yeah Divison 1 is solid, not the best but not the weakest, Division 8 looks very weak, also Division 3 as well, weak divisions.

MechanicalWall posted...

I feel Division 1 had a lot of games that could have been really strong.

Monster Hunter World, Sekiro, Hollow Knight, Dragon Quest, even FFXV are all games that potentially could have caused a bit of a ruckus, at least in Allen's mind. They certainly all ended up pretty close to each other in strength, just nothing that would even register as a blip to BotW.

But no, Skyrim has one of the most hilariously easy paths to Division Finals. It's 8v9 seed battle was one of the most pathetically weak matches in bracket, and even its Round 3 opponent is either a kart racing game or an MMO. From big name franchises, but come on.

Nah, I'm pretty sure Allen made BOTW's division easy on purpose. No need to waste good games in its division.

Division 2 and Division 5 are stacked and their 2nd seed Bloodborne and God of War can beat some 1st seeds in other divisions imo.

I mean if the whole point is to give God of War a 1 seed then it could take GTAV's, Persona 5's, ME2 or even Dark Souls' place before Skyrim

Not that I would take God of War over all four of those games...

There is no way Skyrim should be the first 1 seed lose it.

Im saying that because Skyrim unlike other first seed is the one with the most mixed opinions.

ShortReplies posted...

Division 2 and Division 5 are stacked and their 2nd seed Bloodborne and God of War can beat some 1st seeds in other divisions imo.

The art of good bracket making isn't to have all the games in a ladder style ranking. That would give very few good matches. GTAV's division was pretty good because you could argue like five games had a non-zero chance to win. Throw God of War in there and you've turned at least two of those matches into easy wins.