Yuri_LowelI 4/14/2020 8:22:27 PM#451
LeonhartFour posted...
okay something is definitely happening

P4G just doubled RDR on that update

Not just that. GTA slowed down against Cuphead too

aphorism 4/14/2020 8:22:29 PM#452
First time ever at the top of the leaderboard, feels nice. Don't worry about me in the long run though, somehow I must've I unclicked Skyrim in its matchup against Pokemon so that side of my bracket has an empty hole up until the final :(
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SuperNiceDog 4/14/2020 8:23:26 PM#453
P4GOLDEN let's GO. PERSONNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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squexa 4/14/2020 8:23:39 PM#454
Anyone getting P4 vs Dead Rising flashbacks?
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LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 8:25:11 PM#455
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Axl_Rose_85 4/14/2020 8:28:20 PM#457
Two Fire Emblems. Turds of the round?

Both games are awesome though.
Haste_2 4/14/2020 8:29:37 PM#458
I remember when Phoenix Wright faltered against Ike with his really small lead the last character contest, and he hung in there and somehow won. Maybe Persona can make it through this?
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UshiromiyaEva 4/14/2020 8:30:18 PM#459
Chalk me up as someone who would theoretically not vote for P4G in a match where I would for for P4, as I think basically all the added content and changes in P4G are bad other than the fusion update.

That is not this match of course, because f*** RDR.
LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 8:30:18 PM#460
Haste_2 posted...
I remember when Phoenix Wright faltered against Ike with his really small lead the last character contest, and he hung in there and somehow won. Maybe Persona can make it through this?


Doubling voting will definitely be in its favor if it comes down to it.
Yuri_LowelI 4/14/2020 8:30:52 PM#461
Axl_Rose_85 posted...
Two Fire Emblems. Turds of the round?

Both games are awesome though.

Three Houses more so

Awakening is a 3DS exclusive losing a close match to one of the more Popular soulsborne Ps4 games. Thats not that bad

3H is a Switch game. Was really popular last year and is one of the most popular FE games to date with huge fanbase

ITs definitely underperforming.
Mac Arrowny 4/14/2020 8:33:49 PM#462
Next round is 2 matches per day, right? Shovel Knight and GTA won't have matches on the same day.
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Yuri_LowelI 4/14/2020 8:34:59 PM#463
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Chalk me up as someone who would theoretically not vote for P4G in a match where I would for for P4, as I think basically all the added content and changes in P4G are bad other than the fusion update.

That is not this match of course, because f*** RDR.

Ability to go out at night is bad? More time for Social option? Widescreen support just enhances the game in so many ways. New music new abilities/weapons and story cutscenes incuding the Ice trip

Are you f***ing crazy? The only lef Vanilla P4 has to stand on is Chie's Original VA...and evne then its bleh.

Golden is the definitive version in every way bar Chies voice which has mixed views.

Also we need to keep things into perspective.

P4G is a Vita only game

HAd this game gottena switch port. It would be Persona 5 level.

A Vita exclusive game is effectively pulling these numbers.
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LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 8:35:28 PM#464
Mac Arrowny posted...
Next round is 2 matches per day, right? Shovel Knight and GTA won't have matches on the same day.


Correct.
Yuri_LowelI 4/14/2020 8:35:32 PM#465
Mac Arrowny posted...
Next round is 2 matches per day, right? Shovel Knight and GTA won't have matches on the same day.
Of course not. They are in two different divisions. But one will follow the other one.

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4/14/2020 8:37:11 PM#466
What exactly were people expecting Three Houses to get? A quick look at the Oracle topics suggests people were expecting in the 61-63% range. Three Houses is pretty much doing as expected. Three Houses will lose next round because Xenoblade is strong not because Three Houses was unexpectedly weak.
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UshiromiyaEva 4/14/2020 8:37:29 PM#467
The stuff I actually care about all got worse. New scenes are all lame and turn the cast into caricatures. Marie is hilariously awful and is straight up considered a Poochie. VA changes, though that's a more personal thing. New battle music is an enormous downgrade.

Other good thing is the new social link though. I'll give it credit for that.
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Axl_Rose_85 4/14/2020 8:38:33 PM#468
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Awakening is a 3DS exclusive losing a close match to one of the more Popular soulsborne Ps4 games. Thats not that bad

55-45 is not very close for something that almost went even with Donkey Kong Country 2 in the SNES-boost contest and that is what the score would have been at best for Awakening pre-rally
LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 8:40:30 PM#469
UshiromiyaEva posted...
New battle music is an enormous downgrade.


Reach Out to the Truth is the single most overrated Persona song, period.

Time to Make History was way better.
UshiromiyaEva 4/14/2020 8:44:37 PM#470
LeonhartFour posted...
Reach Out to the Truth is the single most overrated Persona song, period.

Time to Make History was way better.

LeonhartFour posted...
literally do not care.

Kamekguy 4/14/2020 8:45:49 PM#471
Time To Make History is the better song.

Reach Out To The Truth is so much stronger thematically, though. Few games can answer "how do I solve this endgame dialogue puzzle" with "did you listen to the battle theme for the past 50 hours? Like, at all?" Plus the Arena mix is VERY sexy.
LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 8:48:41 PM#472
Oh, the Arena mix is fantastic. The original, not so much.

also glad you saved that post

keep it in mind when you decide to go lone ranger on your P4G opinions
Persona 4 is the best game of all time. I still remember snuggling up in bed with my vita with my headphones on. Memories.
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HaRRicH 4/14/2020 8:51:27 PM#474
Now that things settled down a bit.....

I thought Cuphead would pull this off, but I'm glad I didn't think so when I made my bracket. Not bad GTA.

I suspect GTAV > RDR, but otherwise I'm not convinced what happens in P4G/RDR or in their next round against GTA anymore.

Xenoblade looks terrific here but I'm still keeping a little caution toward 2016's games. DOOM looked solid against REmake 2, but also FFXV didn't beat Hollow Knight by much and Uncharted 4 got dropkicked by Mario Kart 8. We'll learn more when Stardew Valley faces SMG2 -- I don't think this is answered yet on if 2016 has some legitimate strength or not really -- but regardless Overwatch is getting that ass beat and Xenoblade is looking against FE:3H.
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UshiromiyaEva 4/14/2020 8:52:55 PM#475
LeonhartFour posted...
Oh, the Arena mix is fantastic. The original, not so much.

also glad you saved that post

keep it in mind when you decide to go lone ranger on your P4G opinions

Do you think P4G discussion is new or something?

Not only are the new scenes and Marie being bad a common opinion, they are the majority.

There are just plenty of people who think that version of the game is better despite that, which I totally understand.
MoogleKupo141 4/14/2020 8:55:09 PM#476
The only version I played is golden so I had no idea Marie was even new and she didn’t bother me.
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I'm comfortable with not playing Golden simply because it's too much. Persona 4 is already a long-ass game and I think additional scenes interspersed throughout it would bog down the pacing too much.

Song quality preferences aside, Reach Out to the Truth is the soul of the game and fits it perfectly.
It's Reyn Time.
LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 8:55:52 PM#478
oh I know there are people who feel that way

I'd say they're just loud more than being the majority just like any subset of a fanbase that hates stuff
SuperNiceDog 4/14/2020 8:55:57 PM#479
LeonhartFour posted...
Reach Out to the Truth is the single most overrated Persona song, period.

Time to Make History was way better.

The P4 boss theme is great
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LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 8:56:39 PM#480
KamikazePotato posted...
I'm comfortable with not playing Golden simply because it's too much. Persona 4 is already a long-ass game and I think additional scenes interspersed throughout it would bog down the pacing too much.

Song quality preferences aside, Reach Out to the Truth is the soul of the game and fits it perfectly.


still a much shorter and considerably better paced game than Persona 5!
SuperNiceDog posted...
The P4 boss theme is great
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARLVcaGoeNM (click to expand) 

Smash gave us some absolute fire Persona remixes.
It's Reyn Time.
SuperNiceDog 4/14/2020 8:57:05 PM#482
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Persona 4 is the best game of all time. I still remember snuggling up in bed with my vita with my headphones on. Memories.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IORp_o7bnvM 

Best song in the Persona franchise?
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HaRRicH 4/14/2020 8:57:20 PM#483
INDIE GAMES THAT WON IN ROUND 2 (1):

Shovel Knight - 50.36% (versus Octopath Traveler)
Shovel Knight - 64.4% (versus Dragon's Dogma)

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INDIE GAMES THAT LOST IN ROUND 2 (3):

Hollow Knight - 49.58% (versus Final Fantasy XV)
Hollow Knight - 62.81% (versus Tales or Berseria)

Minecraft - 42.35% (versus Marvel's Spider-Man)
Minecraft - 75.71% (versus Dota 2)

Bastion - 28.09% (versus Dragon Quest XI)
Bastion - 52.25% (versus The Walking Dead)

**********

INDIE GAMES THAT WON IN ROUND 1:

Stardew Valley - 71.17% (versus Destiny)
Divinity: Original Sin 2 - 69.22% (versus Hearthstone)
Super Meat Boy - 68.96% (versus Slay the Spire)
Cuphead - 68.28% (versus XCOM 2)
Journey - 66.2% (versus Fate/Grand Order)
Ori and the Blind Forest - 51.91% (versus Dragon Age: Inquisition)
Rocket League - 51.66% (versus Dragon Ball FighterZ)

**********

INDIE GAMES THAT LOST IN ROUND 1 (20):

Celeste - 49.55% (versus Rayman Legends)
Undertale - 46.71% (versus Octopath Traveler)
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - 43.47% (versus Nioh)
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night - 40.9% (versus Borderlands 2)
Terraria - 32.31% (versus BioShock Infinite)
Disco Elysium - 31.94% (versus Kingdom Hearts 3)
Slay the Spire - 31.04% (versus Super Meat Boy)
Crypt of the NecroDancer - 28.47% (versus Final Fantasy XIV)
VVVVVV - 28.28% (versus Fallout 4)
Dead Cells - 27.49% (versus Metal Gear Solid V)
What Remains of Edith Finch - 25.35% (versus Final Fantasy XV)
The Witness - 22.61% (versus Yakuza 0)
FTL: Faster Than Light - 22.23% (versus Persona 4 Golden)
Baba is You - 20.73% (versus Grand Theft Auto V)
The Stanley Parable - 20.6% (versus Fallout: New Vegas)
Night in the Woods - 18.04% (versus Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver)
Hotline Miami - 17.01% (versus Dark Souls)
Subnautica - 16% (versus Skyrim)
INSIDE - 13.94% (versus DOOM)
Return of the Obra Dinn - 12.75% (versus Super Mario Galaxy 2)
LeonhartFour posted...
still a much shorter and considerably better paced game than Persona 5!
I mean you just described one of the reasons why I didn't like Persona 5 so I'm not gonna disagree
It's Reyn Time.
UshiromiyaEva 4/14/2020 8:57:42 PM#485
KamikazePotato posted...


Song quality preferences aside, Reach Out to the Truth is the soul of the game and fits it perfectly.

Kind of my biggest issue with it. Truth is a P4 staple. Time to Make History could be from anything. Doesn't have any emotional connection at all.

UshiromiyaEva 4/14/2020 8:58:48 PM#486


LeonhartFour posted...
still a much shorter and considerably better paced game than Persona 5!

P4 > P5 is super easy, doubt Royal changes that once I get around to it.
LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 8:58:51 PM#487
I'm just saying I feel the same way and I don't think Golden bogs it down as much as you might think!

expanded voice acting in S. Links is nice too
MoogleKupo141 4/14/2020 8:59:42 PM#488
LeonhartFour posted...


still a much shorter and considerably better paced game than Persona 5!


I think P4G and P5 both took me like 100 hours
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LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 9:02:04 PM#489
I beat Golden in like 75-80 hours. P5 was easily over 100.

Of course, Golden wasn't my first run through the game, so that might have helped, but even a NG+ run in P5 didn't feel like it made the game any shorter!
Btw

Gonna give some props to GTAV

For all the Cupset fear it's put Cuphead in its place, not almost choking like FFXV did.

Still the most fraudulent 1 seed in bracket tho
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LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 9:14:48 PM#491
MechanicalWall posted...
Still the most fraudulent 1 seed in bracket tho


well yeah, every other 1 seed would have at least 60% here in all likelihood
Yuri_LowelI 4/14/2020 9:26:32 PM#492
LeonhartFour posted...
I beat Golden in like 75-80 hours. P5 was easily over 100.

Of course, Golden wasn't my first run through the game, so that might have helped, but even a NG+ run in P5 didn't feel like it made the game any shorter!

p5 is significantly longer.

and lets compare royal to golden

royal for first timers is like 25 hours longer than vanilla.

im 60 hours into Royal and im barely half way. I best golden first time in 65 hours.

im in a unique situation where i didnt play the vanilla games past like the first half a dozen hours.

Yuri_LowelI 4/14/2020 9:28:14 PM#493
LeonhartFour posted...
still a much shorter and considerably better paced game than Persona 5!

which is why i wanted a switch port

if it wasnt for this pandemic. No way in hell i put 60 odd hours in Royal.

persona 5 is a marathon of a game
GoldSlime35 4/14/2020 9:29:57 PM#494
4/4 yesterday, I'm one of the 79s just off the leaderboard and need RDR to come through today. Have it over GTA too.

Weird match so far. Its pretty even and RDR seems to be winning more updates, but P4G has had a couple random big updates and keeps growing the lead.
LeonhartFour 4/14/2020 9:31:41 PM#495
Yeah, RDR will stall and slowly cut, and then P4G will bust out a 25-30 vote gain out of nowhere.

Like right there.
Yeah any time RDR makes some headway, P4G gets it all back in one update.

Since the last time I checked, the United States had flipped towards P4G. P4G also seems to be doing better in Europe (minus the UK which is barely going RDR) so we may have to wait until morning to see if RDR can comeback.
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Yuri_LowelI 4/14/2020 9:37:27 PM#497
Most of asia and western europe are hard for persona
Gonna wake up tomorrow and find my bracket dead : (

There are too many weebs here to let Persona choke
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Yuri_LowelI 4/14/2020 9:38:22 PM#499
MechanicalWall posted...
Gonna wake up tomorrow and find my bracket dead : (

There are too many weebs here to let Persona choke

what s***house post this is.
ffmasterjose 4/14/2020 9:38:30 PM#500
Play P4G If you want to

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