Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1334

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Ok let's say all indies are great and we could even have more (which I don't agree with but w/e)

What we don't need:

Destiny
Hearthstone
AC Odissey
Call of Duty
Dota 2
Street Fighter V
Starcraft 2
Heavy Rain
Fate Grand Order

Still fine with having them instead of a 3rd Zelda and an obsolete Smash Bros.!

On the subject of indies, apologies if I missed it, but does Terraria beat Bioshock Infinite? Terraria is one of the biggest indie games of the decade and has a good playrate on here. I can’t think of a game that has fallen further in people’s estimations than Bioshock Infinite.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

What we don't need:

Destiny
Hearthstone
AC Odissey
Call of Duty
Dota 2
Street Fighter V
Starcraft 2
Heavy Rain
Fate Grand Order

In your dreams buddy. It's also the only RTS around. More deserving than ME3 when we have ME2 for sure. On that note, I haven't played DotA 2 but MOBAs deserved representation seeing as they were a huge deal in the past decade.

Skyward Sword would be so much better with proper controls.

MOBAs are probably THE most hated genre in this site at this point. They are likely to get anti-voted to oblivion every time they appear. Why do we need another MOBA in a contest ever again?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Skyward Sword would be so much better with proper controls.

Oh yeah Nintendo's "let's experiment with crap whether it's a good idea or not" phase. Dear lord.

And most Nintendo games from that era are pretty forgettable anyway.

I have the Terraria match circled in my mind too. Bioshock would totally be the game to let an indie take advantage of it.

Such forgettable games as Xenoblade Chronicles and Super Mario Galaxy 2?

Key word being *most*.

Like Twilight Princess and a certain game I've mentioned way too often in the past.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

MOBAs are probably THE most hated genre in this site at this point. They are likely to get anti-voted to oblivion every time they appear. Why do we need another MOBA in a contest ever again?

It's a deal if you get rid of Undertale too.

SS's most aggravating features today are probably the unnecessary hand-holding. I remember so many times where Fi just stripped control from the player, and excessive exposition replaced player exploration. Some of the controls sucked, but the most important controls (swordfighting, bow, beetle) worked well enough and actually enhanced the overall experience imo. And there's a chance those controls might be more refined with the Joycons. Yeah, swimming and bomb controls sucked, but doubt Nintendo would actually rework those.

Either way, I'm surprised we haven't heard anything about a re-release. Perhaps Nintendo considers it as a bastard stepchild and wants to keep the game in a vault forever.

junk_funk posted...

I have the Terraria match circled in my mind too. Bioshock would totally be the game to let an indie take advantage of it.

I would think Bioshock Infinite would be able to hold off Terraria, but I rarely hear anyone talk about Infinite these days, and on the few instances it's brought up, it tends to be negatively. But I rarely hear anyone talk about Terraria at all nowadays. Still feel like Bioshock should be fine but I have no confidence in either.

Most newer games just do not interest me.

lordjers posted...

It's a deal if you get rid of Undertale too.

I mean I don't even mind it, Undertale is marked to death here.

You got it! *burns Undertale's corpse so it can't come back ever again.

Just watch it regrow from a single cell.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

I mean Ori is one of the games that legit deserve to be here.

There are some turbofodder indies that don't though. I e. INSIDE.

Or worse, non-indie turbofodder. Remind me again why Destiny needs to be in this bracket?

There isn't 5 sequences this decade that are better than INSIDE's shockwave or ending sequence.

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Just watch it regrow from a single cell.

Dammit! It's like a horror movie! We just have to stop believing in it or it may come back eventually as Undertale in Space the Final Chapter!

Wait till they release Deltarune.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Ok let's say all indies are great and we could even have more (which I don't agree with but w/e)

What we don't need:

Destiny
Hearthstone
AC Odissey
Call of Duty
Dota 2
Street Fighter V
Starcraft 2
Heavy Rain
Fate Grand Order

Switch Starcraft out for Dying Light and that's a perfect list.

Sens-Hangar_18 posted...

There isn't 5 sequences this decade that are better than INSIDE's shockwave or ending sequence.

The opening of the last of us, the plane sequence of Uncharted 3, the bike level of Uncharted 4, the scene of Horizon Zero Dawn that finally explains how the apocalypse happened and all the musical levels of Rayman Legends are better

lordjers posted...

Dammit! It's like a horror movie! We just have to stop believing in it or it may come back eventually as Undertale in Space the Final Chapter!

Yeah your comment reminded me of John Carpenter's The Thing, hence my reaction.

I don't agree with statements like 'X game doesn't deserve to be here'. The point of expanding a contest like this - where the average strength level is definitely low - is to give all sorts of games their day in the limelight. INSIDE might be turbofodder on GameFAQs, but I've heard extremely good things about it, and clearly people liked it enough to nominate it. Certain games being weak here is an indictment on GameFAQs' sometimes-questionable taste, not the games themselves.

Wildspark posted...

The opening of the last of us, the plane sequence of Uncharted 3, the bike level of Uncharted 4, the scene of Horizon Zero Dawn that finally explains how the apocalypse happened and all the musical levels of Rayman Legends are better

lol'd @ the oscar bait intro from TLOU I was SHOCKED I say, SHOCKED this random never before seen girl didn't make it.

KamikazePotato posted...

Certain games being weak here is an indictment on GameFAQs' sometimes-questionable taste, not the games themselves.

Yep.

I personally am super curious about how Super Mario 3D World would have fared in the contest. Everbody talks about how Wii U games are weak but wouldn't this one have been Wii U's exclusive top dog? There's Smash 4 but Ultimate feels like its expansion.

KamikazePotato posted...

I don't agree with statements like 'X game doesn't deserve to be here'. The point of expanding a contest like this - where the average strength level is definitely low - is to give all sorts of games their day in the limelight. INSIDE might be turbofodder on GameFAQs, but I've heard extremely good things about it, and clearly people liked it enough to nominate it. Certain games being weak here is an indictment on GameFAQs' sometimes-questionable taste, not the games themselves.

Honestly, I usually end up playing at least one game from the lower end of the contest after each contest, so I really like peeking at some of the quirky stuff that ends up at the low end of the xstats.

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Destiny HAS to be weaker now unless Stardew Valley really breaks 40% on StarCraft I.

Yeah, I was sort of considering this at first while making my Oracle pick, but then I remembered Destiny 2 being Free to Play on Steam, although with abysmal popularity, so eh... Destiny is still an anti-vote magnet for some reason. Haven't played the game, but surely there's a reason it gets no respect here!

Lettuce be real trash like Zelda SS would handily beat higher echelon 3rd party games. Also, SSBU performance will be all about melee folks having nothing better to do than the game itself and you can't change my mind

Lightning Strikes posted...

They cut nearly an hour from TP’s opening

See, this is how you get me to give Twilight Princess a second chance.

So far this contest has made me play Baba is You. It's quite enjoyable.

_SecretSquirrel posted...

Honestly, I usually end up playing at least one game from the lower end of the contest after each contest, so I really like peeking at some of the quirky stuff that ends up at the low end of the xstats.

Yeah, GotD1 gave me a lot of games to look forward to, including the vote-ins.

Which is why I'm still a little sad we didn't have vote-ins this year, as it would've given us a lot more exposure to other games than we already have.

Baba is You is fantastic and frustrating

I'm not that far yet I think, but I can that.

It's a really cool idea. Perfect game to play handheld.

Talking about trying new games that will be fodder here, the Stanley Parable is about to get slaughtered but it is a rare example of a perfect game in its genre of walking simulators and I don't see room to improve it. If you have reservations about that type of game, I get it, but this is the one to try if you want to dip your toes in.

It's hilarious, poignant, weird, and anything else I could say here would probably be a spoiler.

Eh I’d say Grand Order deserves a spot. People hate gacha games and I can totally get that, but Grand Order has a ton of actual plot people care about along with an insanely huge cast of characters people love. It’s not some soulless gambling machine even though it makes obscene amounts of money (like $5B~ last I saw)

It hasn't and never will be in contests but all this indie talk reminded me of that ASCII game I played during its development but never again and that's Big Adventure of Owata's Life, which also happens to be perhaps Super Meat Boy's granddaddy.

The last 30 minutes of INSIDE is definitely a moment of the decade contender.

HaRRicH posted...

See, this is how you get me to give Twilight Princess a second chance.

TPHD is great, as is WWHD. It makes it absolutely one of the better Zeldas. They just need to put them on Switch!

swordz9 posted...

Eh I’d say Grand Order deserves a spot. People hate gacha games and I can totally get that, but Grand Order has a ton of actual plot people care about along with an insanely huge cast of characters people love. It’s not some soulless gambling machine even though it makes obscene amounts of money (like $5B~ last I saw)

What makes a gacha game not a "soulless gambling machine"?

I feel like the post you’re responding to answers your question already

What would Obra Dun need VS AC for SMG2 > Witcher 3

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I really feel like The Talos Principle could be the weakest game in the bracket, so that match with God of War could finally give us a 90%+ blowout. It got screwed on the match pic, too; if it had the cover-art kitty, it may have been able to at least pick up some apathy votes, Missile-style.

I hope Binding of Isaac doesn't choke this, that's a damn good game.

Witcher has a long way to rise from 2015 - can it show it's worthy of its 1 seed?

Is Assassin's Creed really worth 3% more than Obra Dinn? I'm inclined to say no, and that this is just the "blowout factor" causing bigger games to overperform against lesser ones. In other words, we won't be getting meaningful results until... looks like halfway through division 7. It's especially annoying because Dark Souls 3 and Isaac have reasonable opponents today, but they're both just going to get crushed in round 2 so who cares.

In conclusion, play The Talos Principle.

I haven't played The Talow Principle yet but I did buy it when I saw it in a store based off something @KCF0107 said in another thread.

The Talos Principle got pic screwed. No kitty pic :(

SS is actually the closest thing to a divisive console Zelda. I don't think it would crush FFXV, most it would 60/40 it.

Skyward Sword may be more respected now, but I'd doubt on taking it to win against Zelda 2.

lordjers posted...

It hasn't and never will be in contests but all this indie talk reminded me of that ASCII game I played during its development but never again and that's Big Adventure of Owata's Life, which also happens to be perhaps Super Meat Boy's granddaddy.

I'm watching a stream of it now...makes me think it's more I Wanna Be The Guy than Super Meat Boy. Both games took influence from Mega Man 2 as well though so that's neat!

63% had ME3, 67% had Stardew Valley

I just saw Dark Souls III get 24 votes before a single Dishonored vote.

I think Isaac is in serious jeapordy.