Heropon_Riki 4/4/2020 5:23:31 PM#451
Starcraft 2 lost to Mass Effect 3? I could have sworn people hated ME3. I guess it must be one of those Skyward Sword scenarios where the internet echo chamber hates it but most people actually like it.
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Heropon_Riki posted...
Starcraft 2 lost to Mass Effect 3? I could have sworn people hated ME3. I guess it must be one of those Skyward Sword scenarios where the internet echo chamber hates it but most people actually like it.

A) People also hate Starcraft II

B) Andromeda was so unbelievable terrible that people wax poetic for ME3 in retrospect.
squexa 4/4/2020 5:25:20 PM#453
Heropon_Riki posted...
Starcraft 2 lost to Mass Effect 3? I could have sworn people hated ME3. I guess it must be one of those Skyward Sword scenarios where the internet echo chamber hates it but most people actually like it.

Or apparently the reverse Fallout New Vegas scenario where the Fallout community makes it seem like the second coming of Jesus Christ, but the general public is less enthusiastic about it
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4/4/2020 5:25:40 PM#455
Heropon_Riki posted...
Starcraft 2 lost to Mass Effect 3? I could have sworn people hated ME3. I guess it must be one of those Skyward Sword scenarios where the internet echo chamber hates it but most people actually like it.


No, ME3 literally put the series on life support before Andromeda dealt the killing blow. If this wasn't true, there would be more ME games right now.
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LeonhartFour 4/4/2020 5:26:39 PM#456
Trend charts:

Time | Witcher 3 | ACO | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 84.71% | 15.29% | 412 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 85.19% | 14.81% | 3051 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 84.12% | 15.88% | 7814 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 84.47% | 15.53% | 3380 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 83.62% | 16.38% | 4779 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 83.46% | 16.54% | 4836 | (16:00-24:00)

Witcher 3 slowly loses steam over the course of the match but still stays pretty high up.

Time | ME3 | SC2 | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 65.78% | 34.22% | 412 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 61.44% | 38.56% | 3055 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 60.00% | 40.00% | 7812 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 59.50% | 40.50% | 3351 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 62.07% | 37.93% | 4804 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 60.50% | 39.50% | 4836 | (16:00-24:00)

Outside of the board vote, this was a pretty stable match.

Time | Stardew | Destiny | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 77.43% | 22.57% | 412 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 74.50% | 25.50% | 3051 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 71.62% | 28.38% | 7814 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 71.16% | 28.84% | 3353 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 70.80% | 29.20% | 4804 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 68.71% | 31.29% | 4836 | (16:00-24:00)

Stardew Valley does the indie thing of starting off hot and fading the rest of the match.

Time | Galaxy 2 | Obra Dinn | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 85.19% | 14.81% | 412 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 87.82% | 12.18% | 3054 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 87.57% | 12.43% | 7803 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 84.92% | 15.08% | 3361 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 86.58% | 13.42% | 4805 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 88.65% | 11.35% | 4836 | (16:00-24:00)

Galaxy 2 starts off strong, fades a little bit overnight, and then comes back stronger than ever.
HaRRicH 4/4/2020 5:26:57 PM#457
Isaac was doing okay for an update or two, then this last one just hit like a piledriver.
Gall 4/4/2020 5:27:08 PM#458
Final Fantasy 15 ended just under 75% against Edith Finch. Maybe there are more walking simulator fans voting than I expected.
Heropon_Riki 4/4/2020 5:28:09 PM#459
People hate Starcraft 2 too??? I thought that was considered the best one! Gamefaqs users and their contrarian opinions really make it hard to gauge how the general public feels about things.
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Oops edited to include Stardew Valley.

I have a bit more faith in Bastion because as weak as TWD is, I think it was undervalued inn2015. I just can’t see it losing to launch LiS.
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BlAcK TuRtLe 4/4/2020 5:30:21 PM#461
Wow Isaac is toast. With this match I went with the game I at least heard of at some point in the last 10 year. I don't even know what Nioh is
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lol xstats
LeonhartFour 4/4/2020 5:30:38 PM#462
Mass Effect 3 was still a really well liked and popular game despite the backlash from the terrible fanbase.
What are the odds that DS3 upsets Fallout next round
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BlAcK TuRtLe 4/4/2020 5:32:16 PM#464
Heropon_Riki posted...
People hate Starcraft 2 too??? I thought that was considered the best one! Gamefaqs users and their contrarian opinions really make it hard to gauge how the general public feels about things.
You must be pretty clueless if you think that SC2 is more regarded than Brood War
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lol xstats
Feels weird to say that an indie game is chocking, but here we are.

Also Dark souls III might actually upset New Vegas lmao. I'd love to hear people tell me how Stanley Parable gets close to Dishonored
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BlAcK TuRtLe 4/4/2020 5:33:21 PM#466
LeonhartFour posted...
Mass Effect 3 was still a really well liked and popular game despite the backlash from the terrible fanbase.
ME3 was a great game with an atrocious ending. Basically the Steven King novel of video games. I think after the initial reaction, people learned to appreciate the positive aspects of the game over time
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lol xstats
LiquidOshawott posted...
What are the odds that DS3 upsets Fallout next round
Pretty good, though I just checked the Guru stats and am legit shocked to learn it's such a huge favorite over DS3. I thought DS3 would actually be the favorite, not a big underdog.
LeonhartFour 4/4/2020 5:34:14 PM#468
MechanicalWall posted...
I'd love to hear people tell me how Stanley Parable gets close to Dishonored


I mean have you not been paying attention to really weak mainline games losing to indie games in this contest
Stanley Parable got a fair amount of press upon release.

I think I'm starting to give up on predicting which indie games GameFAQs decides to attach themselves to.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
BlAcK TuRtLe 4/4/2020 5:35:10 PM#470
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Pretty good, though I just checked the Guru stats and am legit shocked to learn it's such a huge favorite over DS3. I thought DS3 would actually be the favorite, not a big underdog.
I don't know much about the Souls games and their spinoffs, but isn't 2 the most highly regarded, while 3 wasn't as well received.
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lol xstats
LeonhartFour 4/4/2020 5:35:12 PM#471
also for the record if Stanley Parable = Dishonored, New Vegas win with 57.31%
LeonhartFour posted...
I mean have you not been paying attention to really weak mainline games losing to indie games in this contest
Stanley Parable isn't Shovel or Hollow Knight
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BlAcK TuRtLe 4/4/2020 5:35:50 PM#473
KamikazePotato posted...
Stanley Parable got a fair amount of press upon release.

I think I'm starting to give up on predicting which indie games GameFAQs decides to attach themselves to.
A good rule of thumb is good metroidvanias will garner the most support
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lol xstats
It's like near the bottom of mid tier for indies.
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LeonhartFour 4/4/2020 5:36:44 PM#475
I mean Stanley Parable did okay in the one GOTY poll it appeared in!
o ya go my Nioh
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xp1337 4/4/2020 5:38:48 PM#477
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
I don't know much about the Souls games and their spinoffs, but isn't 2 the most highly regarded
Dark Souls 2 is the black sheep of the group. It has its defenders but it's generally the odd one out among the fanbase as far as I can tell. 1 is the most generally well-regarded I think, with 3 in the middle.
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I mean Stanley Parable could have struggled to get 15% and I don't think any of us would have batted an eye. And as dunked on as INSIDE has been on the board since its match, I'm surprised it was that weak. It was very well-received upon release.

A lot of the opinions on indie game strength are going to be justified post-match as 'yeah that makes sense' but in reality it's a crapshoot for the ones that aren't obvious successes like Shovel Knight.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Despite the endless whining about the ending, 2013 Shepard makes me think ME3 genuinely would have had a bit more contest strength than one might expect. Shame it was placed where it was in 2015, since we'd otherwise have at least something of a reading of its pre-Andromeda strength.
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lordjers 4/4/2020 5:39:57 PM#480
Heropon_Riki posted...
People hate Starcraft 2 too??? I thought that was considered the best one! Gamefaqs users and their contrarian opinions really make it hard to gauge how the general public feels about things.

I don't know where all this about SC2 been hated is coming from. Some people were upset about having to buy 3 separate games for the whole experience, and HotS lost some momentum, and apparently LotV wasn't too hot (haven't played that one). But Wings of Liberty? I've heard only complaints about the story (which I don't agree with), but the gameplay was generally praised all around.

My guess is that people are lumping WoL+HotS+LotV together, when the poll was just about WoL which was easily the strongest one and a good sequel.
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LeonhartFour 4/4/2020 5:41:09 PM#481
honestly we're all just guessing when it comes to the strengths of all these indie games

which means there's not much to glean from all these results but whatever it's fun to speculate
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Wow Isaac is toast. With this match I went with the game I at least heard of at some point in the last 10 year. I don't even know what Nioh is
It's the only legit great "souls" game that's not 2D or made by From and it sold very well.
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all these bracket nerd masters being wrong about nioh makes me happy
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Ringworm 4/4/2020 5:47:24 PM#484
BoI/Nioh was one of a few matches I had no clue on when picking my bracket, decided to just go for the lower seed and the game I had heard more about (despite Isaac/BoI not looking great in previous contests). Not surprised I got it wrong, I was due for another miss. Guess it's only worth 1 point.
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Ranticoot 4/4/2020 5:48:41 PM#485
I think I just picked BoI because I figured it was more popular and that's it. I didn't think much about this match. I had heard of Nioh but wasn't that familiar with it.
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Sharinnegan 4/4/2020 5:49:30 PM#486
didnt bloodborne and Sekiro overperform too?

maybe soulslike games are stronger in general now

plasmabeam 4/4/2020 5:49:32 PM#487
KamikazePotato posted...
Um I think Nioh wins, guys

I finally called an upset right. Woo.
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Isaac seemed like it should be a relatively strong indie game to me and Nioh seemed like one of those B tier AAA games that is good but not super discussed so I thought it woukdn’t do great (like dying light or dishonored)

oh well
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Advokaiser 4/4/2020 5:52:54 PM#489
*checks*...

Wow, The Binding of Isaac is leaving the sheets very unclean here.
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snake_5036 4/4/2020 5:54:03 PM#490
Nioh is samurai dark souls, I thought this match would be fairly cut and dry in its favor for most folks
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ZeldaTPLink 4/4/2020 5:58:39 PM#491
Heropon_Riki posted...
People hate Starcraft 2 too??? I thought that was considered the best one! Gamefaqs users and their contrarian opinions really make it hard to gauge how the general public feels about things.

I haven't played it but what I heard is that SC2 caters too much to the absolutely most competitive players and shuns the casuals away.

And "competitive" is a toxic word in this site.
lordjers 4/4/2020 6:02:25 PM#492
ZeldaTPLink posted...
I haven't played it but what I heard is that SC2 caters too much to the absolutely most competitive players and shuns the casuals away.

And "competitive" is a toxic word in this site.

You don't even have to be competitive to appreciate it. It's got a cool single player mode with difficulty settings tailored for everyone. It can be both easier and harder than Brood War's campaign.
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Advokaiser 4/4/2020 6:04:21 PM#493
ZeldaTPLink posted...
And "competitive" is a toxic word in this site.

Competitive toxicity has certainly helped Melee to stay relevant, though!
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ZeldaTPLink 4/4/2020 6:05:06 PM#494
Advokaiser posted...
Competitive toxicity has certainly helped Melee to stay relevant, though!

I assume the competitive scene is not why Melee is strong here.
Leonhart4 4/4/2020 6:14:24 PM#495
No, it's the massive inferiority complex Melee fans have.
Advokaiser 4/4/2020 6:15:41 PM#496
You meant "superiority", right?
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Advokaiser 4/4/2020 6:16:45 PM#497
snake_5036 posted...
Nioh is samurai dark souls

So basically Sekiro?

I wonder what would be the difference between the two.

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Sekiro is more ninja dark souls
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Hbthebattle 4/4/2020 6:22:55 PM#499
If DS3 actually pulls off the upset against New Vegas next round I'm going to be kicking myself because I originally had that and changed it later.
Patience.
Hbthebattle posted...
If DS3 actually pulls off the upset against New Vegas next round I'm going to be kicking myself because I originally had that and changed it later.
Same
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