Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1331

If this is what Eternal's doing for DOOM, what is New Horizons going to do for New Leaf?

Hbthebattle posted...

If this is what Eternal's doing for DOOM, what is New Horizons going to do for New Leaf?

is this what Eternal is doing for DOOM

I hope.

And I hope RE3 will do just as much for RE2!

LeonhartFour posted...

is this what Eternal is doing for DOOM

I mean, if New Leaf triples Street Fighter V, I just hope we all take it as an invitation to s*** all over SFV some more.

LeonhartFour posted...

good grief 25% of the site picked RE7?

I'm not sure what to think of that

Resident Evil is still a big series on GameFAQs and RE7 is much stronger than a typical 16 seed.

Yesterday's charts:

Time | ME2 | RE7 | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 65.67% | 34.33% | 469 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 65.83% | 34.17% | 3023 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 62.64% | 37.36% | 7502 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 60.09% | 39.91% | 3037 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 63.12% | 36.88% | 4596 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 63.21% | 36.79% | 4892 | (16:00-24:00)

ME2 starts off strong, struggles overnight, and recovers a bit during the day.

Time | Fallout 4 | VVVVVV | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 59.28% | 40.72% | 469 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 69.10% | 30.90% | 3023 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 71.63% | 28.37% | 7502 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 70.37% | 29.63% | 3037 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 73.52% | 26.48% | 4596 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 72.63% | 27.37% | 4892 | (16:00-24:00)

That's a slow rise to heaven that FFVII would be proud of!

Time | Borderlands | Bloodstained | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 51.60% | 48.40% | 469 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 57.87% | 42.13% | 3024 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 59.04% | 40.96% | 7502 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 57.59% | 42.41% | 3037 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 58.51% | 41.49% | 4596 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 61.47% | 38.53% | 4892 | (16:00-24:00)

Borderlands struggles early, but it makes a big leap with the day vote.

Time | Horizon | Fortnite | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 79.53% | 20.47% | 469 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 78.27% | 21.73% | 3023 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 80.06% | 19.94% | 7506 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 84.05% | 15.95% | 3035 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 82.55% | 17.45% | 4596 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 80.44% | 19.56% | 4892 | (16:00-24:00)

Horizon does its best work in the morning. Fortnite is strongest up front.

Hbthebattle posted...

If this is what Eternal's doing for DOOM, what is New Horizons going to do for New Leaf?

New Leaf is going to CRUSH.

And you may be right, FFD.

all the warnings not to spoil yourself on Inside and me not liking the 5 minutes I played of Limbo means I have zero reason to vote for Inside since I haven’t played it and can’t look stuff up to know what the hell appeals to people about it.

i don’t care about FPS games and thought wolfenstein 3d was boring (yeah I know, I should try original doom anyways) so Doom is a pretty easy thing to win my vote against. Inside couldn’t do it thanks to the don’t spoil yourself stuff.

Hbthebattle posted...

If this is what Eternal's doing for DOOM, what is New Horizons going to do for New Leaf?

probably not that much since its a 3ds game

charmander6000 posted...

Resident Evil is still a big series on GameFAQs and RE7 is much stronger than a typical 16 seed.

this explains so much why ME has dropped

Yuri_LowelI posted...

probably not that much since its a 3ds game

So is FE, but you're taking it over Bloodborne, right?

Damn, ~87% on INSIDE is a mind blowing performance by DOOM no matter how you justify it. Heck, ALttP managed 88% on Cave Story on 2015 and I don't think INSIDE is that much weaker than Cave Story.

TIL you can close topics

At any rate, DOOM is finally getting the respect it deserves as the best FPS released in the last 15 years, and probably a top 5 GotD for me

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1615-division-16-round-1-earthbound-vs-doom
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3455-division-3-round-1-dk-country-doom-sor-ii-zelda-lttp

The series's few contest appearances before today weren't too bad. Doomguy is almost assured to finally make a Character Battle next time, and probably with a decent seed.

ALL THAT SAID, I'm not deriving a ton from this match and I'm still looking at Doom the same way I did yesterday - as an underdog with an outside shot against RE2. I've never heard of INSIDE, and an unknown IP with a terribly bland name/picture combo can easily find itself in that "Tanner" category. We all know how the Tanners of the world fare against any recognized, respectable competition.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1615-division-16-round-1-earthbound-vs-doom
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3455-division-3-round-1-dk-country-doom-sor-ii-zelda-lttp

The series's few contest appearances before today weren't too bad. Doomguy is almost assured to finally make a Character Battle next time, and probably with a decent seed.

Games like 90s Doom not making 2015 is one of the reasons I'm hoping we get Game of the 90s at some point. There's some real potential in those games that can't pull entry into a full contest, but would make for very good competition in the early rounds.

Question

Does anyone think Human Revolution is stronger than the original? DE1 has enormous street cred with the PC audience as a pioneer but never got a GOOD port to any other system. HR doesn't have the same 'revolutionary' cred but is way more accessible (both in terms of availability and difficulty) and is still pretty well liked.

I ask because if FE can't even double a game that might be weaker than a game that went even with Rock Band then how tf does it get out of round 2

LeonhartFour posted...

is this what Eternal is doing for DOOM

Yes. It just released a few days ago.

AC: New Leaf is going to overperform like crazy as well.

Advokaiser posted...

Yes. It just released a few days ago.

AC: New Leaf is going to overperform like crazy as well.

That community might not show up to vote- too busy paying taxes and folding laundry ingame

MechanicalWall posted...

I ask because if FE can't even double a game that might be weaker than a game that went even with Rock Band then how tf does it get out of round 2

Couldn't tell ya; I've been quite confident in Bloodborne winning two rounds. FE: Awakening may be a Nintendo game, but it's certainly not high on the totem pole, and it's also on handheld. Outside Pokemon and Link's Awakening, how many handheld games are decently popular on this site? Do you even need two hands to count them?

MechanicalWall posted...

Question

Does anyone think Human Revolution is stronger than the original? DE1 has enormous street cred with the PC audience as a pioneer but never got a GOOD port to any other system. HR doesn't have the same 'revolutionary' cred but is way more accessible (both in terms of availability and difficulty) and is still pretty well liked.

I ask because if FE can't even double a game that might be weaker than a game that went even with Rock Band then how tf does it get out of round 2

For what it's worth:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5207-character-battle-ix-division-8-round-1-vivi-vs-jensen-vs

That's slightly better than what Yu Narukami and Aya Brea got on Vivi in 2018.

I think that's pretty good for what was at the time a single-game modern character, which probably suggests good things for his game.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Couldn't tell ya; I've been quite confident in Bloodborne winning two rounds. FE: Awakening may be a Nintendo game, but it's certainly not high on the totem pole, and it's also on handheld. Outside Pokemon and Link's Awakening, how many handheld games are decently popular on this site? Do you even need two hands to count them?

I took Bloodborne to beat FE at first but after talking to people here and looking at the x-stats I switched. Very much feeling nervous about that decision, essentially since I initially thought that match was a no-brainer

Two days ago we had a match where both titles had at least 8 words. Today we have a match where neither title even has 7 letters.

wow just discovered I made my bracket entry just for fun

But hey I never got to prize winning placements anyway!

TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Two days ago we had a match where both titles had at least 8 words. Today we have a match where neither title even has 7 letters.

And no lowercase letters either.

Ok.... It gotta be said....

Deus Ex is not losing by enough. =)

I think Bloodborne should be the slight favorite going into next round, but it's not anymore near a lock. I don't put much stock into blowing out Call of Duty on GameFAQs in 2020.

squexa posted...

Damn, ~87% on INSIDE is a mind blowing performance by DOOM no matter how you justify it. Heck, ALttP managed 88% on Cave Story on 2015 and I don't think INSIDE is that much weaker than Cave Story.

It certainly is based on the empirical evidence because DOOM isn't beating LttP.

Advokaiser posted...

Yes. It just released a few days ago.

AC: New Leaf is going to overperform like crazy as well.

The point is that there's no reason to believe DOOM wouldn't be doing this already because INSIDE is clearly terrible, and we have nothing to cross-reference this performance against.

And regardless, RE3Make will be the fresher game in two weeks anyway - it releases this Friday.

PostContestUlti posted...

I will check it out.

I would recommend against Googling anything Danganronpa related (or searching on Youtube, Twitch, wherever). It's very easy to spoil yourself inadvertently.

81% on a Call of Duty game is more impressive than 87% on Inside. I still think RE2 should be favored in the next round vs Doom. In a contest where you have to vote for every match, I imagine a game like Doom benefits from that, since it's one of the rare series that doesn't seem to have any haters.

scaryice posted...

81% on a Call of Duty game is more impressive than 87% on Inside. I still think RE2 should be favored in the next round vs Doom. In a contest where you have to vote for every match, I imagine a game like Doom benefits from that, since it's one of the rare series that doesn't seem to have any haters.

RE2 is facing Danganronpa though, not Call of Duty. That match comes down to whether 82.5 on Danganronpa is more impressive than the 87 on INSIDE.

Danganronpa is going to be really weak.

but apparently not as weak as INSIDE

I don't expect much appreciation for it on GameFAQs but Black Ops 1 was a damn fine game, arguably the best CoD. The original Modern Warfare gets all the love but BO1 eclipses it in every way imo. Put it up against some turbofodder in this Contest and i can see it squeezing out a W

Another playrate poll for the original Resident Evil today:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8045-

LeonhartFour posted...

Danganronpa is going to be really weak.

but apparently not as weak as INSIDE

I've never heard of either of them, so I'm going to assume the one that isn't some weeaboo s*** is the stronger of the 2

ffmasterjose posted...

I don't expect much appreciation for it on GameFAQs but Black Ops 1 was a damn fine game, arguably the best CoD. The original Modern Warfare gets all the love but BO1 eclipses it in every way imo. Put it up against some turbofodder in this Contest and i can see it squeezing out a W

Agreed - enjoyed the BLOPS multiplayer a lot more than any other COD, especially Capture the Flag on big maps like Array, Cracked and Crisis. Would say Co-Op was best in MW2 though - loved the Spec Ops missions it had.

This is pretty much stomp day.
If we had BoTW against Deus Ex, we could have had +75% in all polls..

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I've never heard of either of them, so I'm going to assume the one that isn't some weeaboo s*** is the stronger of the 2

I doubt it because RE2 is gonna win next round!

Since Advokaiser mentioned it, INSIDE getting beat down means nothing for indies. It is just very, very weak. And I helped to get INSIDE in here, it is one of my favourite games, it will easily be bottom 5 or so. Celeste is still going to stomp Rayman Legends etc.

I'm curious: is Edith Finch really that much stronger than Inside? I know that question seems ludicrous on the face of it, given that the former avoided a tripling against a mainline Final Fantasy, while the latter is getting Tannerized by an opponent that's probably not a top 20 game in this field. However, I can't help but think that the percentages in these types of 'well-known game against indie turbofodder' blowouts are liable to be misleading, especially when one of the games involved is the infamously divisive FF15 - a game that even many of its fans don't seem to consider GotD material.

It doesn't feel out of the question that FF15 antivotes alone are responsible for such a non-entity here looking semi-respectable, since Inside should be the stronger game in theory. Both are low-profile (by GameFAQs standards), narrative-focused indie games, but only Inside has gameplay in the traditional sense, and only Inside is from a semi-notable name in the indie sphere. There's also the two games' respective GotY results, where Edith Finch could only muster 9% directly on Cuphead, whereas Inside avoided a quadrupling from Stardew Valley. I know Edith Finch was free on PS+ for a month, and should have a better playrate as such, but I doubt many GameFAQs voters were inclined to give a so-called walking simulator a try just because it was free.

I say all this because Edith Finch being propped up hard by antivotes and being not too far ahead of Inside in a neutral situation as I suspect wouldn't imply good things for FF15 in its incoming second-round match with a much stronger indie game. Two days ago, when said much stronger indie had just stomped a debatable match, and Bastion was winning a match practically no one expected it to win, I was content to take Edith Finch's result at face value. Recent results have since made it clear that Hollow Knight is unique among indies so far for having actual strength, and Bastion just happened to run into a very weak opponent. There's also the x-factor of Velvet looking quite comfortably ahead of Noctis in 2018 - Velvet seems clearly stronger than her game, and Noctis might be weaker than his game because of the FF brand name, but how much of a gap between each protagonist and their game is really feasible?

So woke up, checked thy results. I expected these wins but this high from all games? Man.

I don’t think that is clear. Bloodstained seemed decent. We won’t know how strong Bastion is until round 2 but trash doesn’t win over a superior seed. Edith Finch is probably a little stronger than INSIDE, but DOOM is stronger than FFXV and likely stronger than DQXI. The simplest explanation is that DOOM is good and INSIDE is the weakest of the indie batch. Personally I don’t think people care enough about FFXV to antivote.

If Edith Finch==INSIDE, DOOM beats FFXV with 54%. That is believable. This doesn’t mean anything about indies because indies are not a monolithic entity.

The indie tier list so far probably goes something like:

Hollow Knight
Bloodstained
-gap-
Bastion
VVVVVV
-gap-
Edith Finch
INSIDE

That is going to cover a pretty broad range of strength. The thing is some expected every indie game to be like Edith Finch or INSIDE. In reality they have a wide range of strength like every other kind of game.

man it’s weird that Doom is stronger than XV after XV beat it hard in the GOTY that year

It’s not that odd. FFXV basically won by default on brand and genre strength because that year lacked any of the big console action-adventure games that GameFAQs goes for. I was thinking when making my bracket that FFXV doesn’t beat Uncharted 4 now. DOOM can’t be that far off, especially with Eternal only a week and a half old. Most likely FFXV is between third and fifth in the 2016 power rankings now there has been time for the games to settle. At least BL2 might still barely be the strongest 2012 game!

At least this is part of the logic that had me taking Uncharted 4 to round 3.

Lightning Strikes posted...

The thing is some expected every indie game to be like Edith Finch or INSIDE. In reality they have a wide range of strength like every other kind of game.

I think you misinterpreted my post. I wasn't trying to say indie games are a monolithic entity, just that they looked like they would mostly have a good contest back on day 2, and that it's since become clear that it would depend on the game. I actually agree with you that Edith Finch ~= Inside, though Doom would get way more than 54% on FF15 if the aforementioned two were exactly equal. My main point was that FF15's incoming second round match doesn't look like an obvious win for it, in part because Edith Finch scoring a much higher percentage than Inside doesn't necessarily mean it's way ahead of the latter.

Also, Bastion's clearly ahead of those two, yes, but it's not necessarily beyond the realm of possibility for an entrant in the bottom quarter of their field to win a match with a lucky draw. Think of Aqua and Aya Brea in 2018, or Path of Radiance and Persona 3 back in the original GotD.

Uncharted 4 to round 3 would be 3 points I would absolutely love not getting.

To be fair to PoR DPP DEFINITELY got SFF’d hard so it’s probably undervalued somewhat.

TWD is weak but it beats VVVVVV, Trails, Edith Finch, all of today’s losers except Deus Ex probably, Fortnite and Berseria. It’ll escape the bottom 20ish I think.

The Walking Dead vs INSIDE

Who do you have, and by how much?