Yuri_LowelI 3/11/2020 10:24:19 PM#351
Advokaiser posted...
Odyssey > Galaxy
Ultimate > Sm4sh

Definitely. Additionally, in the same level of comparison (game from ~10 years ago being surpassed in strength now):

P5 > P4
GTAV > GTA: SA
BotW > TP

tp isnt a good indicator. Its weak sauce now

and im not sure san Andreas loses to GTAV.

im also not certain persona 5 beats oersona4

tp and botw isnt a fair comparison. Tp is a midcard zelda at best

Persona 5 no diffs Persona 4. As a fan of 4, it is literally my favorite game of all time, 5 is just a better crafted experience and got a bigger roll out.
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Yuri_LowelI 3/11/2020 10:27:19 PM#353
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Persona 5 no diffs Persona 4. As a fan of 4, it is literally my favorite game of all time, 5 is just a better crafted experience and got a bigger roll out.

its a different game with different characters

im just saying it would be close. As would san andreas against GTAV. This is Nostalgia faqs.

well have to see how well Persona 4 golden performs. I have it beating GTAV btw. I think its going to be an easy win.
I have it beating GTA V but losing to Three Houses.

I could see those two matches going any number of ways.
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Yuri_LowelI 3/11/2020 10:41:42 PM#355
DoomTheGyarados posted...
I have it beating GTA V but losing to Three Houses.

I could see those two matches going any number of ways.

i have persona losing to xenoblade. And youre right. It could go either way

hell red dead could best persona as well. If it does it beats gta v too.
MoogleKupo141 3/11/2020 11:08:59 PM#356
Advokaiser posted...
Hmmm...

So Death Stranding > Overwatch isn't the obvious R1 pick?

Time to catch up on prediction topics...


I’m going Overwatch because Death Stranding was pretty divisive, but I think it will be close. People are pretty down on Blizzard lately and Overwatch has lost a lot of its luster.
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Safer_777 3/12/2020 8:34:28 AM#357
@LeonhartFour Where is the Guru topic? I want to take part on it.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Leonhart4 3/12/2020 8:35:18 AM#358
Safer_777 posted...
@LeonhartFour Where is the Guru topic? I want to take part on it.

It doesn't get posted until close to bracket lockdown.
Safer_777 3/12/2020 8:57:50 AM#359
Oh okay. Thanks.
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Trollblade74 3/12/2020 8:58:29 AM#360
I picked Overmeme initially because it’s going to get Reddit rallied for at least one match before Gamefaqs cracks down, especially against a game as shaky as Not-MGS5

Unless r/overwatch has banned rallying by now.
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Advokaiser 3/12/2020 5:10:46 PM#361
Yuri_LowelI posted...
tp isnt a good indicator. Its weak sauce now

tp and botw isnt a fair comparison. Tp is a midcard zelda at best

Well, in terms of circumstancial comparison, it's the best example I could take. TP has definitely fallen through the years, though. If you want to get more technical, BotW probably even beats Majora's Mask…!

Yuri_LowelI posted...
and im not sure san Andreas loses to GTAV.

Hehehehe… You know what? I'm not sure either.
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Leonhart4 3/12/2020 5:34:34 PM#362
And if it can beat MM, it can beat LttP!
BlAcK TuRtLe 3/12/2020 8:39:20 PM#363
Leonhart4 posted...
God of War has a real chance of winning that.
lol

Before the Netflix series I would have given GoW an outside chance, but not a chance in hell now
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BlAcK TuRtLe 3/12/2020 8:41:08 PM#364
Also, all this Persona talk just reminds me what a weird echochamber this board is. I'm calling it now, P5 is going to struggle with Sonic, before getting destroyed by the Portal 2/RDR2 winner (my money on Portal)
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Leonhart4 3/12/2020 8:46:40 PM#365
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Also, all this Persona talk just reminds me what a weird echochamber this board is. I'm calling it now, P5 is going to struggle with Sonic, before getting destroyed by the Portal 2/RDR2 winner (my money on Portal)

Or you could just pay attention to its performances in polls and understand that it didn't get included in Smash for no reason.
Big Bob 3/12/2020 8:51:11 PM#366
Well, Terry Bogard's not exactly a worldbringer...
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Leonhart4 3/12/2020 8:55:44 PM#367
Big Bob posted...
Well, Terry Bogard's not exactly a worldbringer...

That's just Sakurai being a fanboy.
Persona 5 sold millions of copies when no previous game in the series had sold a million. It was also the highest rated PS4 game of that year and I believe ever to that point (until God of War came out). On GameFAQs, it is the second highest rated game in the contest behind BotW and had over 5000 votes. Then there are its polls like Leon said. This isn’t Persona 4 2 this is the true breakout moment for the series.
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Not_Wylvane 3/13/2020 1:35:27 PM#369
I just redid my bracket after using past polls as a reference instead of my gut, and man, does it suck that half the field doesn't really show up in any polls past the GotY poll of their release year.
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Safer_777 3/13/2020 1:38:03 PM#370
I went with my favorites myself.
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shane15 3/13/2020 2:34:45 PM#371
Not_Wylvane posted...
I just redid my bracket after using past polls as a reference instead of my gut, and man, does it suck that half the field doesn't really show up in any polls past the GotY poll of their release year.

Absolute mad man for doing this for an entire bracket. I only did it for a few debatable matches and it annoyed me.
Still no idea how Bloodborne does as it hasn’t been seen since 2015!

Also on the topic of games stronger than their 2000s counterparts:

Three Houses&Awakening>FE&PoR
Dragon Quest XI>Dragon Quest VIII (I think)
Skyrim>Oblivion&Morrowind

Some where the time gap was a bit shorter:
Borderlands 2>Borderlands
Dark Souls>Demon’s Souls
Mass Effect 2>Mass Effect... Probably
Arkham City?>?Arkham Asylum

And the most exciting trend of all: franchises that previously rate at all but have now made it in, most notably The Witcher.

I would certainly hope that this decade is stronger given that it was a much better decade for games than the last one!
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LusterSoldier 3/13/2020 9:02:36 PM#374
The yellow site alert for this contest also shows up for those not logged into an account, so it will be easily visible to new people visiting the site for the first time. I'm surprised at how early Allen has started using the yellow site alert, as this was typically reserved for only the final day of bracket entries. We still have at least 5 days left to fill out a bracket.
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ZeldaTPLink 3/14/2020 3:23:22 AM#375
LusterSoldier posted...
The yellow site alert for this contest also shows up for those not logged into an account, so it will be easily visible to new people visiting the site for the first time. I'm surprised at how early Allen has started using the yellow site alert, as this was typically reserved for only the final day of bracket entries. We still have at least 5 days left to fill out a bracket.

Maybe the number of brackets really sucks?
Not_Wylvane 3/14/2020 3:47:31 AM#376
shane15 posted...
Absolute mad man for doing this for an entire bracket. I only did it for a few debatable matches and it annoyed me.
I tend to do better when I put in the extra effort. It only took me an hour or so to do anyway.

If I was really crazy I'd find like opponents in games and compare the games to each other, but I'm not putting in that much effort for this one.
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LadyVyxx 3/14/2020 7:44:41 AM#377
Do you need an account to make an entry?
LadyVyxx posted...
Do you need an account to make an entry?
If you're logged out, you get this notice:

"You have to log in to enter this contest, otherwise we have no idea how to keep track of your entry. If you don't have an account, you can sign up immediately and enter."
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I posted a f***ton during the 2015 contest but never really got back into the groove of posting here. This is a contest I've been anticipating tho so I wanna get back into the swing of things here.

So question/discussion: how ridiculous is it to expect Persona 4 to make it out of Division 4? I'm familiar with Persona's contest history, and I know it's a fifth seed, but I feel like its stock has risen considerably since 2015. I feel like it's a game a lot of people passed on nominating because it's essentially a port, but once they see in polls will be like ayyyyye it's P4 I liked that s***.

Idk, I think most other divisions it gets knocked out round 2 or 3, but D4 has such weak top seeds and is generally such a clusterf*** that with a strong name brand + JRPG bias, P4 could sneak into quarters where it promptly gets blown up.

D4 is going to obliterate so many brackets lmao
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shane15 3/14/2020 8:56:46 AM#380
I know i'll end up getting D4 completely wrong but it's easily the most exciting. No matter which way you look at it there's always an argument for the other 4 games.
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LeonhartFour 3/14/2020 8:58:19 AM#381
Yeah, whoever gets Division 4 right will probably wind up winning the contest or at least coming pretty close (barring a rally or something, of course).

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3/14/2020 12:43:42 PM#382
There are 16 matches in the BOP were less than 66% of the brackets agree on the winner:

There are 23 brackets total.

Round 1

Hollow Knight - 13
Tales of Berseria - 10

Devil May Cry 5 - 12
DKC: Tropical Freeze - 11

Overwatch - 15
Death Stranding - 8

Dragon Ball FighterZ - 12
Rocket League - 11

Round 2

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - 11
Monster Hunter: World - 11
Bravely Default - 1

Horizon Zero Dawn - 13
Borderlands 2 - 10

Bloodborne - 13
Fire Emblem: Awakening - 10

Undertale - 13
Shovel Knight - 9
Octopath Traveler - 1

Persona 4 Golden - 15
Red Dead Redemption - 8

Portal 2 - 15
Kingdom Hearts III - 8

Round 3

Grand Theft Auto V - 11
Persona 4 Golden - 11
Red Dead Redemption - 1

Portal 2 - 10
Kingdom Hearts III - 7
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 5
Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 1

Round 4

Mass Effect 2 - 14
Resident Evil 2 - 8
Bloodborne - 1

Fire Emblem: Three Houses - 10
Grand Theft Auto V - 5
Xenoblade Chronicles - 5
Persona 4 Golden - 3

Dark Souls - 12
The Last of Us - 9
Batman: Arkham City - 1
Metal Gear Solid V - 1

Round 6

Elder Scrolls: Skyrim - 9
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - 8
Pokemon HeartGold - 3
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 2
Persona 5 - 1

Full results:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yHeZ2oCBFRB5Trf8mxMfoYL71lxa1ecAMEvGnVE_o_w/edit?usp=sharing
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LusterSoldier 3/14/2020 10:13:17 PM#383
Today's poll is pretty interesting, especially in the context of the current coronavirus situation. The trends themselves aren't worth tracking, but the results are. If today's result is being affected by coronavirus, the effect should be easily visible in the Geolocation results by looking at Italy (a country with a national quarantine in place).
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LusterSoldier 3/15/2020 12:45:30 PM#385
With this poll being more than halfway completed, I took a look at Italy's results for today's poll. Right now:

Instant - I work or take classes from home 11.69%
I don't have one, because I don't have a job or go to school 18.18%

Even though the no job/school option is higher than the overall worldwide result, this is actually the lowest percentage that option has gotten in Italy during the entire history of this poll. The previous re-runs of this poll had a higher percentage for "no job/school" in Italy. However, the "Instant" option has recorded its highest percentage ever in Italy during the entire history of this poll. The "Instant" option was worth looking at here due to a lot of workers having to switch over to working from home.

Whatever effect coronavirus could be having on this poll, it's an extremely minor effect at best.
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SuperNiceDog 3/15/2020 8:29:32 PM#386
Help me with my picks:

Does 14) Bravely Default have a chance? I remember how popular it was back when it first came out. It wasn't even mentioned at all during "The Show". It's a Gamefaqs type of game, JRPG.

Witcher 3 vs SMG 2: I still struggle so hard with this. My initial gut pick was SMG 2. I don't think the Witcher 3 show will help. People will vote Nintendo in this match I feel. Either way, it's gonna be 53-47 at most for Witcher 3. It's also going to be the only Nintendo in the 4 voting options(Witcher 3, SMG2, Fallout: New Vegas, God of War, Persona 5, Sonic Mania, Portal 2, RDR2/Animal Crossing). My gut tells me the Galaxy series has risen in strength since the 2015 contest where SMG2 lost to Mass Effect 1. I personally haven't played Witcher 3 so maybe that's making this harder.

7) Animal Crossing: A New Leaf's entire path(SF5, RDR 2, Portal 2). I feel it could win all 3 matches. I remember how big it was when it came out. I think that series will have an uptick similar to Pokemon before the 2011 rival contest(not as big, but still). It had a cultural impact when it came out, everyone was asking for the friend codes. I feel like people on this site remember and respect vote games for that.

Mario Kart 8 vs Skyrim: Arrow to the knee is so 2011. Will Skyrim retain it's strength? Do people still care about it? I feel people have nostalgia for the mid-2010s era of Mario Kart 8 also. Between 2014-2016, Mario Kart 8 8 way multiplayer was HOT FIRE. I still feel voters on this site will respect vote the game for those memories more so than that of Skyrim's 8 1/2 years ago. This one is very close also

Persona 5's path(can it beat Witcher 3/SMG2 and then likely Skyrim?): How strong will Persona 5 be? Will it be overshadowed since it came out during Breath of the Wild's year(2017)? Or will it actually be stronger due to things like Joker getting into Smash? I have a feeling it's gonna be a monster. I think it can make it to the semis at least and possibly the finals.
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LeonhartFour 3/15/2020 8:32:08 PM#387
SuperNiceDog posted...
My gut tells me the Galaxy series has risen in strength since the 2015 contest

why
SuperNiceDog 3/15/2020 8:35:24 PM#388
LeonhartFour posted...
why

Just a gut feeling. It was sort of before woke culture took over, the catalyst would be memories of the late 2000s/early 2010s era, particularly with the harsh realities of the world of today. People associating Galaxy 2 to those better times.
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LeonhartFour 3/15/2020 8:36:22 PM#389
ctesjbuvf 3/16/2020 6:37:51 AM#390
I'm so tempted to pick Nier to beat HGSS.

I don't believe HGSS is anywhere near GSC and it would be lovely to expose that before Skyrim. I'm not entirely sure I believe in Nier enough to the job done though.
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shane15 3/16/2020 7:11:47 AM#391
ctesjbuvf posted...
I'm so tempted to pick Nier to beat HGSS.

I don't believe HGSS is anywhere near GSC and it would be lovely to expose that before Skyrim. I'm not entirely sure I believe in Nier enough to the job done though.


I'm taking Nier. It should have enough respect to get past a remake of a Pokemon game.
ZeldaTPLink 3/16/2020 7:12:19 AM#392
HGSS is a fraud.
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Gall 3/16/2020 7:21:20 AM#393
Xenoblade 2 is so weird, it feels like it could get to the division finals or it could lose to Batman. Right now I have it winning 2 matches before running into Last of Us, but if it can beat 2 western games why not 3?
LeonhartFour 3/16/2020 7:25:19 AM#394
Gall posted...
Xenoblade 2 is so weird, it feels like it could get to the division finals

this ain't Xenoblade 1
plasmabeam 3/16/2020 7:30:17 AM#395
Yuri_LowelI posted...
i have persona losing to xenoblade. And youre right. It could go either way

hell red dead could best persona as well. If it does it beats gta v too.

I initially had P4G losing to Fire Emblem, but changed my pick to have it losing to RDR.

Are we sure P4G is anywhere as strong as P5? I would take P5 over GTAV in a heartbeat, but picking a PS2/Vita game that never reached modern consoles... hmm.
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LeonhartFour 3/16/2020 7:34:18 AM#396
we aren't sure about anything when it comes to P4G

that's the problem!
LusterSoldier 3/16/2020 7:47:11 AM#397
ctesjbuvf posted...
I'm so tempted to pick Nier to beat HGSS.

I don't believe HGSS is anywhere near GSC and it would be lovely to expose that before Skyrim. I'm not entirely sure I believe in Nier enough to the job done though.


I already jumped in on the Nier > HGSS pick in my bracket because I figure Nier probably has pretty good strength as far as this decade of games is concerned when 2B turned out to be stronger than expected in the last Character Battle.
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plasmabeam 3/16/2020 7:49:44 AM#398
SuperNiceDog posted...
Help me with my picks:

Does 14) Bravely Default have a chance? I remember how popular it was back when it first came out. It wasn't even mentioned at all during "The Show". It's a Gamefaqs type of game, JRPG.

Easy win for MH. When in doubt, take the console game over the handheld game.



Witcher 3 vs SMG 2: I still struggle so hard with this. My initial gut pick was SMG 2. I don't think the Witcher 3 show will help. People will vote Nintendo in this match I feel. Either way, it's gonna be 53-47 at most for Witcher 3. It's also going to be the only Nintendo in the 4 voting options(Witcher 3, SMG2, Fallout: New Vegas, God of War, Persona 5, Sonic Mania, Portal 2, RDR2/Animal Crossing). My gut tells me the Galaxy series has risen in strength since the 2015 contest where SMG2 lost to Mass Effect 1. I personally haven't played Witcher 3 so maybe that's making this harder.


It'll be interesting. Initially I had SMG2 in the finals until someone pointed out the ME > SMG2 poll. I think Witcher's too hot right now with the Netflix show.

7) Animal Crossing: A New Leaf's entire path(SF5, RDR 2, Portal 2). I feel it could win all 3 matches. I remember how big it was when it came out. I think that series will have an uptick similar to Pokemon before the 2011 rival contest(not as big, but still). It had a cultural impact when it came out, everyone was asking for the friend codes. I feel like people on this site remember and respect vote games for that.


The bottom half of that division is tricky. I have KH3 as my Cinderella pick to get to the division finals, but ACNL scares me, especially with the new one releasing later this week.

Mario Kart 8 vs Skyrim: Arrow to the knee is so 2011. Will Skyrim retain it's strength? Do people still care about it? I feel people have nostalgia for the mid-2010s era of Mario Kart 8 also. Between 2014-2016, Mario Kart 8 8 way multiplayer was HOT FIRE. I still feel voters on this site will respect vote the game for those memories more so than that of Skyrim's 8 1/2 years ago. This one is very close also


It's a viable upset, but not a likely one. Skyrim was one of those decade-defining games that was always on the GFAQs homepage in some form or another. I can't see MK8 overpowering it.

Persona 5's path(can it beat Witcher 3/SMG2 and then likely Skyrim?): How strong will Persona 5 be? Will it be overshadowed since it came out during Breath of the Wild's year(2017)? Or will it actually be stronger due to things like Joker getting into Smash? I have a feeling it's gonna be a monster. I think it can make it to the semis at least and possibly the finals.

P5 should sneak out of it's division, but I can't see it upsetting W3/SMG2.

Gall posted...
Xenoblade 2 is so weird, it feels like it could get to the division finals or it could lose to Batman. Right now I have it winning 2 matches before running into Last of Us, but if it can beat 2 western games why not 3?

I think it's too niche to beat something with "Batman" in the title.

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shane15 3/16/2020 8:11:03 AM#400
Yeah the problem with D4 is if you think RDR beats P4 it also beats GTA5. On the other side whoever wins out of Xenoblade and FE probably wins the division.There really isn't a safety pick for that division. You just have to make 2 choices and hope they come in.

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