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Team Rocket Elite posted... squexa posted...Hypothetical mini-contest: Characters that have never appeared in a CB before. Yeah, Dark Link especially and maybe Paper Mario and MegaMan.Exe too, so alternate forms would probably be banned and the Gen 1 Pokemon would be restricted to a couple of slots. The plus side is that Charizard and Mewtwo didn't look that great this contest so a Blastoise vs Chocobo/Red XIII/etc match could potentially be in doubt I suppose. congrats to BKSheikah the BYIG guru |
_Dog_ posted... I gotta admit, Cloud had a pretty good contest overall. I think he was a bigger star than Zelda... he beat her! GJ BK_Sheikah |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... garetha200 posted...If Tifa is legitimately stronger than Sephiroth, then Samus had a stronger round 1 of the Legends Bracket than Mario did. And since that's the only round where you can compare them and they seemed pretty even directly, saying Samus is stronger indirectly makes a lot of sense. The f*** you talking about? None of what you said makes sense. How the hell is zelda around Seph level? Even her results against Aeros and squall should tell you she’s stronger. Seph barely broke 60 On Ryu. Zelda dismantled squall by a much larger margin Also stop saying hentai rallies when that only happens in the tifa x match and probably gained about 500 votes at best. |
Yuri_LowelI posted... Can we not have one wih non exclusive game characters? It’s been nearly 20 years surely we can do one with non exclusive game characters? It would be way more fun. This would be the best scenario. I don’t really understand the reluctance from Allen. All the people complaining about “Let’s remove Link from the contest! He’s too stronkkkk!!!” Should be asking for a fictionals contest. Add Batman and Darth Vader into the mix. Suddenly Link doesn’t look so safe. Also even if Link is naturally stronger than Batman now, would it be a shock if Batman wins via bandwagon or rally? I don’t think so. Seriously, everyone wanting Link removed from the bracket - because he’s too popular to be in a popularity contest - should instead be demanding a contest with Darth Vader and Batman and Spider-Man. |
creativename posted... _SecretSquirrel posted...creativename posted...show hidden quote(s)_SecretSquirrel posted...Finally found the match pics. http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Legendary_Dress Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, Advokaiser, the 2018 Guru Contest winner. |
_SecretSquirrel posted... creativename posted..._SecretSquirrel posted...show hidden quote(s)creativename posted..._SecretSquirrel posted...Finally found the match pics. Thanks. But...why is his hair green?? |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... garetha200 posted...If Tifa is legitimately stronger than Sephiroth, then Samus had a stronger round 1 of the Legends Bracket than Mario did. And since that's the only round where you can compare them and they seemed pretty even directly, saying Samus is stronger indirectly makes a lot of sense. Are you trolling? Because if you legitimately believe Mario is indirectly stronger than Samus, you are out of your damn mind o_O |
creativename posted... _SecretSquirrel posted...creativename posted...show hidden quote(s)_SecretSquirrel posted...creativename posted..._SecretSquirrel posted...Finally found the match pics. In Tri Force Heroes, there's three different colored Links because co-op, and their hair matches their tunic. This is the Green Link wearing the Legendary Dress. Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, Advokaiser, the 2018 Guru Contest winner. |
Cloud, Mario, Samus, and maybe
Zelda are too close to be put in a rigid hierarchy, IMO. Excepting the
seeming strongest (Cloud) versus the apparent weakest (Zelda), any match
between two of the four could go either way. 1. Link (obviously) 2. Cloud 2. Mario 2. Samus 2. Zelda 6. Snake 7. Crono 8. Mega Man 8. Sonic 10. Sephiroth (poor Sephy...) (This is kinda random, but the image in your sig, Yuri, is a dead ringer for the Orphen opening.) "You can't be more popular than me. I'm the main character of this franchise and stuff!" Neptune for Smash Ultimate DLC! - i.imgur.com/z8Q9ezu.png |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... that puts Ryu at a really really weak level which makes zero sense. Why? And don't say "muh previous contests" when you're denying that Mario could have pulled rSFF on an indirectly stronger Samus. Hail the reigning Guru champ, Advokaiser! You proved yourself more statistically metal-minded than I ever have been - well done! |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7380-loser-bracket-round-3-mega-man-vs-crono Crono and Mega Man are on the same tier. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
AdamantRock posted... Cloud, Mario, Samus, and maybe Zelda are too close to be put in a rigid hierarchy, IMO. Excepting the seeming strongest (Cloud) versus the apparent weakest (Zelda), any match between two of the four could go either way. There's absolutely no way Sonic is still that high. Not one of his results this contest put him anywhere near that, I'd take Pikachu (who belongs in the same tier as Mega Man for obvious reasons) over him in a heartbeat. The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion |
AdamantRock posted... Cloud, Mario, Samus, and maybe Zelda are too close to be put in a rigid hierarchy, IMO. Excepting the seeming strongest (Cloud) versus the apparent weakest (Zelda), any match between two of the four could go either way. Would you really be shocked if Snake beat Cloud though? I think that Samus match is really messing up people’s views of Snake. Especially as Samus might just be that damn strong, and only gets messed up by Mario. I think Mario thrashing Samus in 2K5 caused people to underrate Samus in terms of the perception of her strength, since it was such an embarrassing and notorious defeat. I think you can see this in how continually surprised we are when Samus stomps other elites. I think getting beat down by Samus is causing people to underrate Snake. |
Yuri_LowelI posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...garetha200 posted...show hidden quote(s)If Tifa is legitimately stronger than Sephiroth, then Samus had a stronger round 1 of the Legends Bracket than Mario did. And since that's the only round where you can compare them and they seemed pretty even directly, saying Samus is stronger indirectly makes a lot of sense. 500 votes out of 32000 is 1.6%, and there were proven/admitted hentai rallies in Tifa/Seph, Zelda/Mario, Zelda/Snake and several other close matches involving Tifa/Zelda/Samus BKSheikah, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats |
creativename posted... Would you really be shocked if Snake beat Cloud though? Maybe, but Samus only did 59% on Tifa, who is barely stronger than Luigi. If we assume that Snake actually beats Cloud, then Luigi is beating Crono/Mega Man and is much stronger than Yoshi/Bowser. congrats to BKSheikah the BYIG guru (edited 12/13/2018 8:11:03 PM) |
NeoElfboy posted... There's absolutely no way Sonic is still that high. Not one of his results this contest put him anywhere near that, I'd take Pikachu (who belongs in the same tier as Mega Man for obvious reasons) over him in a heartbeat. I dunno, I still think that was just a fluke. Rock stomped all over the electric mouse Pokemon, when given a second chance. And while modern Sonic is pathetic, I don't think he's fallen quite so much as you make it sound. He had Sonic Mania recently, which was very good. By contrast, everyone seems to have forgotten about MM11. He's in Smash, he can benefit from Nintendo boosting to at least the same degree as Rock can. Against each other, I don't know. If each were fighting the same neutral opponent, I think the Blue Blur does better overall. "You can't be more popular than me. I'm the main character of this franchise and stuff!" Neptune for Smash Ultimate DLC! - i.imgur.com/z8Q9ezu.png |
squexa posted... creativename posted...Would you really be shocked if Snake beat Cloud though? Yes, and based on their matches with Tifa this contest it looks like X > Luigi, meaning by extension X > MM. That would make very little sense, especially since MM is in Smash and X is not. Advokaiser made an above average bracket, I'd say. |
Legends and Loser Bracket, Round 3 and later Zelda vs. Cloud Strife Registered Vote Result: Zelda - 4400 (50.37%) Cloud Strife - 4335 (49.63%) Anonymous Vote Result: Zelda - 4717 (46.48%) Cloud Strife - 5431 (53.52%) Zelda barely won the registered users and did nearly 4% better compared to anonymous users. Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BK_Sheikah00, Guru Champ! |
Sonic
lost by similar amounts to both Zelda and Snake while Zelda and Snake
went 50-50 with each other. On top of that, Snake blasted Auron way
harder than Sonic did. Sonic just looked really bad with multiple
matches pointing at the same result. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
Team Rocket Elite posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7380-loser-bracket-round-3-mega-man-vs-crono I concede your point. Maybe I do have a bit of Square bias, but it doesn't feel like it was that close, ya know. The percentage and vote difference looks deceptive to me. Unlike 2-5, I can't imaging Rock having been able to beat Crono. "You can't be more popular than me. I'm the main character of this franchise and stuff!" Neptune for Smash Ultimate DLC! - i.imgur.com/z8Q9ezu.png |
creativename posted... Yuri_LowelI posted...Can we not have one wih non exclusive game characters? It’s been nearly 20 years surely we can do one with non exclusive game characters? It would be way more fun. The reason is obvious. Then it's not a video game contest anymore. It's a random popularity contest, and it doesn't have anything particularly to do with GameFAQs other than being hosted by it. Like, if we're gonna go with a "fictional characters" contest, why not add historical characters? Abraham Lincoln vs Batman would be one heck of a battle, no? Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
We already have Geralt and he is the same character as from the books. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
Cloud
just got his first cut of this match at 11:25 PM. In the previous
Link/Cloud match, the first cut didn't happen until 1:05 AM. Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BK_Sheikah00, Guru Champ! |
I'm
guessing the difference is that the majority of the people voting
Geralt are voting because of the games and not the books. Same with Lu
Bu from 2013. Whereas, if JFK got in because he technically was in Civ
Revolution 2, everyone will be voting for him as a historical figure. When we get to Voldemort vs George Washington match, I doubt anyone's voting with video games in mind. At that point, why not just host a Best Movies Contest too while we're at it. congrats to BKSheikah the BYIG guru |
Cloud had no right in getting here twice without putting up a fight. It's either +45% or go home nuked. Backlog:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii). Last finished: Splatterhouse 3 (GEN).
Splatterhouse 2 (GEN). Splatterhouse: Wanpaku Graffiti (NES). |
TheOneAboveAll posted... The reason is obvious. Then it's not a video game contest anymore. It's a random popularity contest, and it doesn't have anything particularly to do with GameFAQs other than being hosted by it. We aren't opening the contest up to everything in existence. We would only be going for characters outside of gaming that have still appeared in notable video games. Abraham Lincoln isn't going to get the kind of nomination support to get in, and Allen could just not let in anything he feels is too irrelevant like he did with Spider-Man this year. Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, Advokaiser, the 2018 Guru Contest winner. |
I think the obvious and definitive ranking of the elites when you take out bandwagons and hentai rallies is something like this: Link Cloud Mario Samus Snake Zelda Crono Mega Man Pikachu Sephiroth MMX Luigi Tifa Sonic EDIT: Brainfarted on Snake's placement BKSheikah, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats (edited 12/13/2018 8:36:30 PM) |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I think the obvious and definitive ranking of the elites when you take out bandwagons and hentai rallies is something like this: Good joke. #1 Titans fan If Luigiman says it, then it must be true. -oj1985 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Sephiroth Is this ordered and if so why is Sephiroth at the top here? Among Luigi, MMX and Sephiroth, Sephiroth did worst on Tifa. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
I
think the implication is Tifa's hentai rally had only begun to swell
with MMX and it exploded by the time she reached Sephiroth No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
AdamantRock posted... NeoElfboy posted...There's absolutely no way Sonic is still that high. Not one of his results this contest put him anywhere near that, I'd take Pikachu (who belongs in the same tier as Mega Man for obvious reasons) over him in a heartbeat. Sonic got beaten badly by both Zelda and Snake (Snake never beat a N9 by over 56% until this year), and beat Auron by... well, notably less than he lost to Zelda/Snake, and Auron doesn't seem to be near-N9 level any more. I dunno, any way you spin the numbers it looks like Sonic has lost a step. Mega Man edged Pikachu by just over 1% in the rematch; hardly a stomp! Averaging the two matches gives you quite a narrow margin indeed (around 0.6%?). Generally I'd keep characters on the same tier if the gap between them is smaller than the random variance surrounding individual match circumstances (bracket votes, day of the week, pictures, etc.) which Mega Man vs Pikachu definitively is! I'd take Pikachu over Sephiroth as well. I feel like every character that relies on a "cool" factor for popularity fell off a bit this contest as the site gets older. With Vincent dropping as much as he has, not hard to imagine Sephiroth being similarly affected. Pikachu is the face of one of the most popular franchises on this site, not really too surprising he's strong. It ain't 2002 any more. The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion |
Team Rocket Elite posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Sephiroth Tifa/Sephiroth is by far the weirdest and most suspect result of the entire contest. I don't trust that result at ALL BKSheikah, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats |
NeoElfboy posted... I'd take Pikachu over Sephiroth as well. I feel like every character that relies on a "cool" factor for popularity fell off a bit this contest as the site gets older. With Vincent dropping as much as he has, not hard to imagine Sephiroth being similarly affected. Pikachu is the face of one of the most popular franchises on this site, not really too surprising he's strong. It ain't 2002 any more. In 2002, Pikachu scored 54.41% on PaRappa The Rapper. In 2018, Pikachu gets over 80% on PaRappa The Rapper (exact value depends on your Xstats of choice). No character can say they've improved as much as Pikachu. Advokaiser picked Cloud in Guru and rained on my bracket. At least I finished 20th overall! |
I kinda hope we get Pikachu vs Fox next contest just so we can see one of the biggest reversals of all time. The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion |
I feel like Fox would hold up better than you'd expect and it would be disappointing. No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1306-north-division-round-1-pikachu-vs-fox-mccloud Fox could go 50-50 with Pikachu and it would be a massive turn around. Pikachu is more likely to easily clear 55. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
I
see Fox getting around 42 or something. Which I mean sure that's like
25 points but I feel like you could get an even bigger swing with like
Nathan Drake vs CATS or something. No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Lopen posted... I see Fox getting around 42 or something. Which I mean sure that's like 25 points but I feel like you could get an even bigger swing with like Nathan Drake vs CATS or something. But there's a lot less invested in Nathan Drake and CATS than there is in Pikachu (and probably Fox too) these days. Advokaiser picked Cloud in Guru and rained on my bracket. At least I finished 20th overall! |
Donkey Kong vs Aya Brea is probably in the running of percentage swings even if it doesn't change the result Not sure what it actually x-stats to from this contest's results but I could definitely see DK breaking 75% this time around. Shame we didn't get Gordon Freeman vs Tina part 2 when Gordon actually had some strength on this site. That could've done it. Actually if you want a sneaky pick for biggest swing I really think a Wario vs Shadow the Hedgehog rematch would be a strong contender. Wario putting up 60% is plausible I think. No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... garetha200 posted...If Tifa is legitimately stronger than Sephiroth, then Samus had a stronger round 1 of the Legends Bracket than Mario did. And since that's the only round where you can compare them and they seemed pretty even directly, saying Samus is stronger indirectly makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure hentai ralllies really made THAT much of a difference, but I see your point. Sephiroth looked stronger than Tifa in the main bracket, for sure. That would then imply that Mario is above Samus, which is actually what I thought was the case for a while, even after Tifa beat Seph. Until Samus stomped Snake and Mario lost to Zelda and Cloud. (to be fair, Mario is slightly above Zelda based on the Cloud matches) If Sephiroth really is stronger than Tifa, I would believe that TIfa overperformed on Samus (she's done it before, albeit not the exact same circumstances) before believing that Mario is stronger than Samus. Or maybe that would mean Mario just overperformed on Sephiroth for whatever reason. "Ah,
a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is
a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." (edited 12/13/2018 9:21:32 PM) |
Sephiroth
looked better if you take the Ryu match. He looked worse if you take
the Amaterasu match. There is no consistent interpretation of Sephiroth
in this contest. Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Lopen posted... Donkey Kong vs Aya Brea is probably in the running of percentage swings even if it doesn't change the result Also DK vs Tommy Vercetti could have a crazy swing in a rematch. congrats to BKSheikah the BYIG guru |
well Cloud should break 40% this time at least |
Honestly I kinda think the winner would be Gordon Freeman vs Princess Peach And it would be depressing. Not that I like Gordon Freeman but seeing Peach get like 75% on anyone is just gross. No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Two Top 50 finishes in a row for me. I'm pleased. Dilated Chemist |
KamikazePotato posted... Sephiroth looked better if you take the Ryu match. He looked worse if you take the Amaterasu match. There is no consistent interpretation of Sephiroth in this contest. I'd argue that it's fairly consistent in favor of the stronger intepretation of Sephiroth. There's reason to believe that Lara Croft has strengthened since 2013, given the success of females as well as the increasing of two other PS1 platforming characters. As for Wesker... well, he's around the fodder line and hasn't been measurable since 2010, not to mention Sephiroth's anti-votes are likely more pronounced against weaker opponents. Still, I'm not entirely convinced of that, because Sephiroth was shown to be weaker than Tifa through a direct match as WELL as doing so poorly on Mario... Maybe Sephiroth was just not himself when he reached the legends bracket. Or maybe he was just that weak all along. "Ah,
a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is
a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
heroicmario posted... It’s a shame Mario couldn’t manage to pull it off against Cloud! I wouldn’t have expected Cloud to pull that one off, though I guess after that narrow win against Samus he had some sort of rally going against him, haha. Total redemption after the 2013 contest against Vivi, tho! Mario had a lot to prove this contest, and I don't think his loss to Cloud did the job. He rather disappointed here. The Big Problem with the Pokemon anime: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/217-pokemon/75265633 |
TheOneAboveAll posted... creativename posted...Yuri_LowelI posted...show hidden quote(s)Can we not have one wih non exclusive game characters? It’s been nearly 20 years surely we can do one with non exclusive game characters? It would be way more fun. Of course a contest with fictional characters that have appeared in games would have something to do with video games. Video games are not limited to things original to gaming. Because people *want* a cool fictionals contest, and they do not *want* a stupid historical figures contest? People *want* to see Spider-Man and Darth Vader. Characters that would be strong on their own, and potentially get rallies of real supporters. They do not *want* to see a stupid historical figures contest, where only trolls would rally the figures for the lulz. The entire point is that Abraham Lincoln vs. Batman would NOT be a heck of a battle, because Batman would be a monster and Lincoln a joke entrant. Why are you conflating something people would *want*, with something they do not *want*? Popular potential monster characters with joke entrants? |
Cloud is over 40 now... ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ |
creativename posted... TheOneAboveAll posted...creativename posted...show hidden quote(s)Yuri_LowelI posted...Can we not have one wih non exclusive game characters? It’s been nearly 20 years surely we can do one with non exclusive game characters? It would be way more fun. Maybe I'm overestimating DroneFaqs but I'm pretty sure no one could challenge Link without rallies. Batman would be 40-60ed by Link too. |
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