Kotetsu534 12/12/2018 10:15:28 AM#301
Respect to Cloud for holding up and making a match of this in the Smash/BotW era. Re-established as the strongest non-Nintendo character by a distance even with Seph collapsing.
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Down to 63 votes now. This is trending towards a Cloud win unless there's the usual Mario shenanigans
I really wish I knew how many people in the Top 10 has a Cloud win here. At least 1 of them has to I would assume
Down to 40 votes now so I'd expect a lead change soon
red sox 777 12/12/2018 10:22:44 AM#305
Remember what happened to Samus, Cloud. Don't let up when you get the lead. Put the match beyond reach of his shenanigans.
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Safer_777 12/12/2018 10:27:01 AM#306
Told that before. The Mario clutch(meaning vote stuffing!)
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Even as a huge fan of Samus it feels a little soul-crushing to see her, not exactly the top of the heap when it comes to Nintendo (though she's not far behind, but still), blow out the strongest non-Square/Nintendo rep.

Oh my god, I just realized that ZELDA can now beat any character not from Nintendo or Square (and for all we know she could take Cloud). Wow. I guess that's what happens when other companies embarrass themselves on a regular basis.
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Nanis23 12/12/2018 10:27:58 AM#308
Man, this time Mario will lose the lead
This reminds me of Pikachu/Mega Man (1st)
"Surely, once the day vote comes, Mega Man will take the lead...Mega Man..? any time now.."
Like Mario doing better in the night against Cloud and then losing the day..amazing...
wololo
red sox 777 12/12/2018 10:29:04 AM#309
This match is following Crono/Megaman really well. Which is good for Cloud!
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Well Mario has all the US/Canada and Clpud has the bulk of Europe so this could just be a case of Europeans getting home from work. So it could still swing back in a few hours to favor Mario
ZeldaTPLink 12/12/2018 10:38:53 AM#311
Kotetsu534 posted...
Respect to Cloud for holding up and making a match of this in the Smash/BotW era. Re-established as the strongest non-Nintendo character by a distance even with Seph collapsing.


I dunno I think Snake would give him a good fight.
Kotetsu534 12/12/2018 10:39:01 AM#312
Cloud is rocking in Colorado!
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
Kotetsu534 posted...
Respect to Cloud for holding up and making a match of this in the Smash/BotW era. Re-established as the strongest non-Nintendo character by a distance even with Seph collapsing.


I dunno I think Snake would give him a good fight.


If you extrapolate based on this, Samus/Snake, and Mario/Samus 1, Cloud threatens 60% against Snake.

Wait a sec, Snake is weaker than Mega Man now? Hmmm...back to 2004 I see.
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Nanis23 12/12/2018 10:48:24 AM#314
Just wanted to say I really like the "villainous Mario" concept
One of the very few times a character gets a contest personality (the other being Unpredictable Kefka I guess?)
wololo
ZeldaTPLink 12/12/2018 10:52:43 AM#315
LinkMarioSamus posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Kotetsu534 posted...
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Respect to Cloud for holding up and making a match of this in the Smash/BotW era. Re-established as the strongest non-Nintendo character by a distance even with Seph collapsing.


I dunno I think Snake would give him a good fight.


If you extrapolate based on this, Samus/Snake, and Mario/Samus 1, Cloud threatens 60% against Snake.

Wait a sec, Snake is weaker than Mega Man now? Hmmm...back to 2004 I see.


But if you assume Mario/Samus is an SFF mess and instead extrapolate though Zelda/Mario and Zelda/Snake, then Cloud only gets 50.7% on Snake.
ZeldaTPLink 12/12/2018 10:53:52 AM#316
I mean Zelda vs Mario also has SFF maybe but I guess Zelda is more robust than Samus since she's got the series advantage. And because her results still make sense if the only thing you remove are the Mario vs Samus matches.
Denzokuken 12/12/2018 10:59:30 AM#317
Cloud. What a guy.
Ilishe 12/12/2018 11:02:52 AM#318
Come on Cloud!

We know you have what it takes dammit!

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squexa 12/12/2018 11:05:42 AM#319
ZeldaTPLink posted...
But if you assume Mario/Samus is an SFF mess and instead extrapolate though Zelda/Mario and Zelda/Snake, then Cloud only gets 50.7% on Snake.


If you extrapolate through Zelda/Mario and Zelda/Snake, then Snake should be stronger than Cloud since Zelda beat Mario harder than she beat Snake.
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ZeldaTPLink 12/12/2018 11:13:58 AM#320
squexa posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
But if you assume Mario/Samus is an SFF mess and instead extrapolate though Zelda/Mario and Zelda/Snake, then Cloud only gets 50.7% on Snake.


If you extrapolate through Zelda/Mario and Zelda/Snake, then Snake should be stronger than Cloud since Zelda beat Mario harder than she beat Snake.


Sorry, I typed the right number but inverted the names.

Snake gets 50.7% on Cloud.
Safer_777 12/12/2018 11:25:33 AM#321
Cloud ahead!
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
SwiftyDC 12/12/2018 11:26:44 AM#322
Even with Odyssey and Smash out, Cloud is still a beast.
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Nanis23 12/12/2018 11:26:46 AM#323
The clutch Mario
The clutch

@XIII_rocks use your power
wololo
tgs2 12/12/2018 11:27:05 AM#324
Cloud is ahead. Time for big match Mario to overcome the odds again.
Safer_777 12/12/2018 11:27:43 AM#325
Beat the thief Cloud! Beat him!
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
XIII_rocks 12/12/2018 11:28:03 AM#326
Nanis23 posted...
The clutch Mario
The clutch

@XIII_rocks use your power


I don't have f***ing POWERS
Just abject desperation
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Nanis23 12/12/2018 11:29:32 AM#327
XIII_rocks posted...
Nanis23 posted...
The clutch Mario
The clutch

@ XIII_rocks use your power


I don't have f***ing POWERS
Just abject desperation

I thought you rallied some people against Samus?
wololo
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XIII_rocks 12/12/2018 11:30:46 AM#328
Yeah I did

Some people. Not enough. Cloud is just building and building and is not going to stop. At all.
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SwiftyDC 12/12/2018 11:31:34 AM#329
Shenanigans.
Dilated Chemist
red sox 777 12/12/2018 11:33:37 AM#330
There's the lead. Now the hard part - holding off Mario's clutch.
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Xyril 12/12/2018 11:42:03 AM#331
I accidentally voted cloud when I have mario, this may haunt me. Might have blew my chances finishing in the money.
ExThaNemesis 12/12/2018 11:45:43 AM#332
Cloud took too long to get this lead. Not enough time to build it I don't think.
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Jman_maximum 12/12/2018 11:54:13 AM#333
Mario wasn't doing very well against seph at the end of the match

who knows
The_Ctes 12/12/2018 11:56:37 AM#334
The vaillainous Mario thing is weird though. Guess board 8 really likes Samus now.
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trogita 12/12/2018 11:57:13 AM#335
How in the world is Cloud this strong?

What happened to the nostalgia + relevance theory? I really thought Odyssey would make this no contest.
VeryInsane 12/12/2018 11:58:29 AM#336
The big thing to me is the difference between Cloud and Seph is huge now

Is it all Smash?
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Logience 12/12/2018 11:58:44 AM#337
The_Ctes posted...
The vaillainous Mario thing is weird though. Guess board 8 really likes Samus now.

Dude, Mario has been cast as a villain by the board forever. Look up “Mario vs Cloud 2002”.
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The_Ctes posted...
The vaillainous Mario thing is weird though. Guess board 8 really likes Samus now.


It's just the many people who argue in favor of Samus being indirectly stronger and wanted to prove it by beating Mario directly

There are people who like her sure but I know many stats people have wanted this result for a long time
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The_Ctes 12/12/2018 12:03:36 PM#339
I know all about that, but it hasn't been relevant since the early days. And unlike that match, yesterday was Samus almost rallied past Mario, but fell just short. Not Mario riding major rallies past her.
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LeonhartFour 12/12/2018 12:04:12 PM#340
Jman_maximum 12/12/2018 12:04:20 PM#341
this result kinda sets it in stone that Samus is stronger right?

if Mario > Samus is legit, that'd put Snake behind Crono and Megaman
Smash aside, the gap between Cloud and Sephiroth had been slowly increasing for quite awhile up through 2010.
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Nanis23 12/12/2018 12:05:39 PM#343
UltimaterializerX posted...
It’s remarkable to me how similar this match is to 16 years ago.

How the hell do people remember how a match 16 years ago went
You don't have the updater for 2002
wololo
LeonhartFour 12/12/2018 12:06:35 PM#344
Well, if Cloud wins, we'll get a better idea when he faces Zelda.
XIII_rocks 12/12/2018 12:06:45 PM#345
It was recorded and discussed at length even without the updater
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
LeonhartFour posted...
Well, if Cloud wins, we'll get a better idea when he faces Zelda.

Depends. Zelda has a bandwagon right now, which is going to muddle up the numbers for that match.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Logience 12/12/2018 12:09:07 PM#347
Nanis23 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
It’s remarkable to me how similar this match is to 16 years ago.

How the hell do people remember how a match 16 years ago went
You don't have the updater for 2002

Because they’re turbonerds who spent a literal 24 hours constantly F5ing a votecount page. Who wouldn’t remember that kind of experience?
>unironically playing video games
LeonhartFour 12/12/2018 12:09:18 PM#348
But will she keep it now that she's gone up against Link and still fell far short?
red sox 777 12/12/2018 12:09:27 PM#349
Nanis23 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
It’s remarkable to me how similar this match is to 16 years ago.

How the hell do people remember how a match 16 years ago went
You don't have the updater for 2002


Mario/Cloud 2002 was THE match of the contest. Cloud got more votes that day than any previous contestant in any Gamefaqs contest, even the 90%+ blowout winners, and lost. And this was immediately after 2 other close matches in Sonic/Samus and Sephiroth/Megaman and immediately preceding a kind of close one in Crono/Snake. In a couple years I'll remember Mario/Cloud 2002 better than today.
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Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!
SuperNiceDog 12/12/2018 12:09:58 PM#350
red sox 777 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
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It’s remarkable to me how similar this match is to 16 years ago.

How the hell do people remember how a match 16 years ago went
You don't have the updater for 2002


Mario/Cloud 2002 was THE match of the contest. Cloud got more votes that day than any previous contestant in any Gamefaqs contest, even the 90%+ blowout winners, and lost. And this was immediately after 2 other close matches in Sonic/Samus and Sephiroth/Megaman and immediately preceding a kind of close one in Crono/Snake. In a couple years I'll remember Mario/Cloud 2002 better than today.


I agree with this.
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