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Ranticoot posted... I'm all ready to go all in on Cloud rallies. And Zelda if he gets to that point. Are you actually reading the posts from anti rally people? Victorian Puritans weren’t this hypocritical. Tattoo a scarlet letter on KP’s forehead and get it over with. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
KamikazePotato posted... Mario doesn't have good karma built up. He's like the only Noble Nine character who literally cheated back in 2002/2003. Him losing to Vivi just balanced the books (and now he's back to his soul being steeped in black after today). Samus probably cheated against Sonic too, if you really want to bring it up/ And Crono was *caught* cheating (if you believe CJayC). Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
Samus is my favorite non-FFIV character, and this was pretty much her only chance to ever beat Mario. I guess I'm left hoping these contests are over with after this, because she's never getting this shot again. Just feel burned out. https://imgur.com/M1heX2g RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( |
KamikazePotato posted... Nanis, please don't quote Ulti posts. As a counterpoint, look at the people here cheering for the plumber. He's not universally reviled in the slightest for this. People want to see Mario redeem himself. This match was an incredibly long time coming after Mario/Vivi. I know I f***ing yelled when I saw he'd won because after seeing downer after downer with my favorites stinking up the joint all over, my biggest contest favorite doing something magical was a huge redemption. Mario has just as much to prove as Zelda here - he's been doubted as the #2 since 2010, and if he can flip the result against her when she's on infinite steroids, it'll finally confirm it. I'mt not saying he's guaranteed to win here. Only that you shouldn't count him out. Shine on, you crazy diamond. |
LMAO Kanz quote 251 for me. Let’s have a party! 🎊 Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
https://i.imgtc.com/AKz035P.jpg The statement below is true. The statement above is false. |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... Samus is my favorite non-FFIV character, and this was pretty much her only chance to ever beat Mario. I'm pretty sure if we do this again in a year or two, Samus should be a consensus favorite to beat Mario. Smash Ultimate gonna help Samus a lot more than Mario. Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
TheOneAboveAll posted... WarThaNemesis2 posted...Samus is my favorite non-FFIV character, and this was pretty much her only chance to ever beat Mario. Yeah this match WAS the Smash Ultimate effect. It still wasn't enough. https://imgur.com/M1heX2g RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( (edited 12/10/2018 4:35:42 PM) |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... Samus is my favorite non-FFIV character, and this was pretty much her only chance to ever beat Mario. Why? It was a loser bracket match. Means as much as a ? Block bonus poll. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
Kanz,
you are looking at this from the perspective of a mega Mario fan who
always wants him to win. I can tell you that as someone who is
ambivalent towards both Mario and Samus, that my vote for Zelda>Mario
next round was made 100% in stone due to how this match played out. Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
TheOneAboveAll posted... Samus probably cheated against Sonic too, if you really want to bring it up. Did she? I'm not 100% up on my Contest lore (joined in 2005ish). And Crono was *caught* cheating (if you believe CJayC). n_n Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
UltimaterializerX posted... WarThaNemesis2 posted...Samus is my favorite non-FFIV character, and this was pretty much her only chance to ever beat Mario. It was an official contest match. The winner advanced to the next round to face Cloud. And there is no way Samus is getting this close to winning again. https://imgur.com/M1heX2g RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( |
Hi5,
Ulti! I'm gonna see if I can't get my friends to vote for the fat man
if he gets to Zelda. If ever there was a time to put in effort for a
contest match, that'll be it. Let's make something happen! Shine on, you crazy diamond. |
Samus absolutely 100% cheated against Sonic. 1500 votes in the last 3 hours with a LOT of fishy spikes. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
Fingers crossed for Cloud > Mario, followed by Zelda > Cloud. It's a long shot, but it's the only way I'm going anywhere but down. "In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." - John 16:33 |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... TheOneAboveAll posted...WarThaNemesis2 posted...show hidden quote(s)Samus is my favorite non-FFIV character, and this was pretty much her only chance to ever beat Mario. This was some of it. But the trends have been clear for a while now. Samus is getting more popular (directly) relative to Mario. Today just wasn't past the inflection point. Unless Mario has a good boost (that Samus doesn't) soon, Samus will outright pass Mario, and very soon. Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... UltimaterializerX posted...WarThaNemesis2 posted...show hidden quote(s)Samus is my favorite non-FFIV character, and this was pretty much her only chance to ever beat Mario. I don’t think the average voter knew that. We’ll see when I do my PCA. Starting tonight! I’m motivated to write!! Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
So
what are the prizes for the leaderboard? Last time I was high on the
leaderboard I wasn't prize eligible due to living in the UK but now I'm
in the states. I didn't actually look at what the prizes are when I made
my bracket and now I can't seem to find the page that states it |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Hi5, Ulti! I'm gonna see if I can't get my friends to vote for the fat man if he gets to Zelda. If ever there was a time to put in effort for a contest match, that'll be it. Let's make something happen! He has my vote but Zelda gon win. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
KamikazePotato posted... Kanz, you are looking at this from the perspective of a mega Mario fan who always wants him to win. I can tell you that as someone who is ambivalent towards both Mario and Samus, that my vote for Zelda>Mario next round was made 100% in stone due to how this match played out. Yeah I get what you mean It's just...I'm not alone you know? Mario won and that doesn't happen if people just don't like him. There's a lot of people who really care about Mario, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense to neutrals. I think this match was as removed of SFF as you can possibly get and he managed to pull off a miracle. I can't write him off after this - I just can't. If he goes down, so be it, but I'll go down with the ship then! Shine on, you crazy diamond. |
Samus already wins this match
if we take out the registered voter boost. You don't need to wait years
for more trends to happen. Remove the boost, wait a week, and she wins. Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
KanzarisKelshen posted... It's just...I'm not alone you know? Mario won and that doesn't happen if people just don't like him. There's a lot of people who really care about Mario, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense to neutrals. You're trying to convince the neutrals here. The people who were already going to vote for Mario>Zelda may be 'emboldened' after this result but what does it matter? Their votes were already locked in. I think this match was as removed of SFF as you can possibly get and he managed to pull off a miracle. >_________________> Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 12/10/2018 4:40:40 PM) |
Mario
colluded with CJayC, who not only did nothing while the poll received
on the order of 10,000 "rallied" votes in 2003, but extended the poll by
27 minutes so that Mario could finish. Wasn't Mario caught pushing a
male/female poll on male-dominated places around the internet that
actually voted in Mario vs. Crono? That said, Mario does his job as contest villain very very well. That's why we hate him and that's why we love him. Good luck to Samus in round 4. September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
ShatteredElysium posted... So what are the prizes for the leaderboard? Last time I was high on the leaderboard I wasn't prize eligible due to living in the UK but now I'm in the states. I didn't actually look at what the prizes are when I made my bracket and now I can't seem to find the page that states it https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/cbx This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
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KamikazePotato posted... TheOneAboveAll posted...Samus probably cheated against Sonic too, if you really want to bring it up. Can we *prove* it? No. But that 2002 match against Sonic was all kinds of crazy unlikely. It was an absurd comeback, and it had a lot of weird trends that made no sense. Then again, if 2002 didn't have all the craziness that it did (we literally got Samus/Sonic shenanigans, a Sephiroth/Mega Man epic, and then Mario/Cloud shenanigans on back-to-back-to-back days), these things probably never really take off the way they did. There were almost certainly at least two cheating matches (not even counting Mario/Crono) that contest, and the whole thing was just awesome. Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
red sox 777 posted... Mario colluded with CJayC, who not only did nothing while the poll received on the order of 10,000 "rallied" votes in 2003, but extended the poll by 27 minutes so that Mario could finish. Wasn't Mario caught pushing a male/female poll on male-dominated places around the internet that actually voted in Mario vs. Crono? It’s been way too long since Mario clutched someone. I forgot how good this feels. And yes, thanks for asking, I was on his side in 2002-2003. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
red sox 777 posted... Mario colluded with CJayC, who not only did nothing while the poll received on the order of 10,000 "rallied" votes in 2003, but extended the poll by 27 minutes so that Mario could finish. Wasn't Mario caught pushing a male/female poll on male-dominated places around the internet that actually voted in Mario vs. Crono? The male/female poll was the Mario/Cloud match a week prior. Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
Also,
the male/female poll explains how Mario could bring in 10,000 extra
votes but only pick up maybe 2,000 votes against Crono. That kind of
rallying has a built in backfire rate. September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
KamikazePotato posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...It's just...I'm not alone you know? Mario won and that doesn't happen if people just don't like him. There's a lot of people who really care about Mario, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense to neutrals. It's like you said man samus was ahead in raw vote intake How can you say the person with less raw vote intake SFF'd the one with more? That doesn't even make any sense, the gamefaqs core userbase just likes Mario in general Shine on, you crazy diamond. |
Team Rocket Elite posted... ShatteredElysium posted...So what are the prizes for the leaderboard? Last time I was high on the leaderboard I wasn't prize eligible due to living in the UK but now I'm in the states. I didn't actually look at what the prizes are when I made my bracket and now I can't seem to find the page that states it Thanks! That's actually better than I expected. I guess if I win I'll buy my friends kids a Switch for xmas or something (edited 12/10/2018 4:47:08 PM) |
Mario was leading against Crono at midnight in 2003, not his fault CJayC started the poll early. CBX - Today's Winner: Link |
While
it sucks Samus couldn't get her big win I've always preferred Mario and
never really cared much for Samus so cool from my personal preference
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KamikazePotato posted... Mario>Samus is the most villainous result we've had in like, forever. Samus was reversing a 40-60 loss from 12 years ago, overcoming the Nintendo Hierarchy, overcoming bracket votes, and overcoming the Registered Voter Bonus which I will remind is equivalent to 400+ stuffed votes, overcoming rabid Mario ralliers literally going door-to-door asking people to vote. She came one update away from overcoming all that through raw strength alone. It's like an anime ending except the cheating villain won. Good plotline tbh. I would love to watch an Anime where the hero gets destroyed by the villain in embarrassing fashion and then spends the next 13 years growing to finally get her re-match, only to narrowly be defeated this time due to being unable to unleash her full power. Then in the final arc, she finally unleashes her full power and gains the upperhand on the villain for the first time, but the crafty villain finds a way through devious tactics to bring the fight to a last hit situation and picks up that 3rd W in a fade to black. Would be a pretty refreshing story. LeBron "Stannis" James - The one true king of the NBA (edited 12/10/2018 4:48:59 PM) |
KanzarisKelshen posted... How can you say the person with less raw vote intake SFF'd the one with more? It's called rSFF and the Samus/Mario matches this contest basically confirmed that it exists Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
TheOneAboveAll posted... WarThaNemesis2 posted...TheOneAboveAll posted...show hidden quote(s)WarThaNemesis2 posted...Samus is my favorite non-FFIV character, and this was pretty much her only chance to ever beat Mario. Samus is going to drop relative to Mario (compared to today) as Smash Ultimate immediate release excitement dies down, which helps her more than it helps Mario, especially with Metroid having possibly the most hyped newcomer. Like, maybe Metroid Prime 4 will recover that in time, but that still puts her below Mario. This was Samus with everything she had, and it lost. Anyone who thinks Samus is beating Mario is delusional. Cloud beating Link in the near future is more likely. https://imgur.com/M1heX2g RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( |
Zeldas
strength this contest makes no damn sense. From almost losing to snake
to only getting 57 on Sonic tonbesting mario and this is her best
performance so far against Link. |
charmander6000 posted... Mario was leading against Crono at midnight in 2003, not his fault CJayC started the poll early. Mario is smart, he got CJayC to start the poll at 23:40 and end at 24:07 so it wouldn't look as bad. Although, I think the average poll start time in 2003 was around 23:50.....it fluctuated slightly every day but I don't know if we had any other matches longer than 24:05 or shorter than 23:55, except for Mario/Crono, which came in at 24:27. September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
Link versus Cloud posted... KamikazePotato posted...Mario>Samus is the most villainous result we've had in like, forever. Samus was reversing a 40-60 loss from 12 years ago, overcoming the Nintendo Hierarchy, overcoming bracket votes, and overcoming the Registered Voter Bonus which I will remind is equivalent to 400+ stuffed votes, overcoming rabid Mario ralliers literally going door-to-door asking people to vote. She came one update away from overcoming all that through raw strength alone. It's like an anime ending except the cheating villain won. I'm pretty sure a boxing manga has done this before, on that note I know As***a no Joe ends with the hero losing, for instance KamikazePotato posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...How can you say the person with less raw vote intake SFF'd the one with more? I'm still skeptical. RSFF doesn't flip 15% around. Would sooner believe Mario is a bit stronger than Samus and runback wonkiness let her come closer than expected. Guess we'll see if this theory holds with Mario flipping the result on Zelda! Shine on, you crazy diamond. |
Snake/Zelda, Zelda/Mario, and Samus/Snake heavily
imply that Samus is a significant step above Mario. She wouldn't
bulldoze him with indirect strength but I think something like 54-46 is
about right. It's a pretty easy thing to buy considering what happened
in 2006 - the hierarchy favors who it favors. Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 12/10/2018 4:52:56 PM) |
Cloud better f***ing kill this c***, and if you voted or rooted for this vote stuffing a****** f*** you! Samus cheated in 02 as well though, for what it's worth. It's just Mario is now up to DOUBLE DIGIT cheats. Get f***ed XIII and CTES and KP specifically |
red sox 777 posted... charmander6000 posted...Mario was leading against Crono at midnight in 2003, not his fault CJayC started the poll early. Polls typically started up to 20 minutes early unless the previous match was close in which case the match went to midnight, anyone keeping an eye on the contest would have known that. CBX - Today's Winner: Link (edited 12/10/2018 4:53:42 PM) |
red sox 777 posted... Also, the male/female poll explains how Mario could bring in 10,000 extra votes but only pick up maybe 2,000 votes against Crono. That kind of rallying has a built in backfire rate. I have no idea what the real code used looked like but there was absolutely no reason not to hook up both options to vote for the same character. That way there's no chance to backfire. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
Team Rocket Elite posted... red sox 777 posted...Also, the male/female poll explains how Mario could bring in 10,000 extra votes but only pick up maybe 2,000 votes against Crono. That kind of rallying has a built in backfire rate. Let's be clear: We're not 100% positive that the random poll actually was hooked back into our contest. Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
Team Rocket Elite posted... red sox 777 posted...Also, the male/female poll explains how Mario could bring in 10,000 extra votes but only pick up maybe 2,000 votes against Crono. That kind of rallying has a built in backfire rate. But that way risks being caught. Mario coming back 800 votes on Crono in 2-3 hours with the second night vote after doing nothing with the day vote? Suspicious. Mario gaining 8000 votes in 3 hours with the SNV? Obvious stuffing. September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
charmander6000 posted... Polls typically started up to 20 minutes early unless the previous match was close in which case the match went to midnight, anyone keeping an eye on the contest would have known that. Was there a reason for the polls sometimes starting early back in 2003? Maybe CJayC didn't have a way to automate the process of having the polls go up at the same time everyday, so he did them manually. Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BK_Sheikah00, Guru Champ! |
Mario you bastard |
I
probably posted it in one of the stats topics years ago but I did do a
trendline analysis for Mario/Crono 2003 along the lines of what Lopen
did for the Draven matches, and that's where the 10,000 number is coming
from. The match pulled in about 10,000 more votes in the last 3-4
hours than it would have based on normal 2003 vote intake trends, and
the reason people didn't notice it was so big at the time was that 40%
of the extra votes went to Crono. Granted, the male/female poll being responsible is not proven. But it does fit the data pretty well, and I don't know how else you could have rallied that many votes in 2003, especially for Crono. Another alternative is both sides were stuffing hard, and Mario stuffed more. September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
Some of you guys in this topic are WAAAAAY over the top with your anger. I really hope it's just an act. It's a poll on a video game website. Have fun. Aren't we all in our 30s anyway? I think there's better things to get mad about than one Nintendo icon beating out another with a nail biting finish. Smelling roses and sipping Champagne. |
Link is flying now. I was actually a bit worried after the opening of the match. Hopefully he still clears 60%. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
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