Advokaiser 12/6/2018 1:32:59 PM#51
Safer_777 posted...
Which NN'ers are on the new Smash game?


Link, Cloud, Mario, Samus, Snake, Mega Man, and Sonic.

Only Crono and Sephiroth are out of the party.

(BTW, I ordered all of them in order of perceived and current strength.)
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Safer_777 12/6/2018 1:36:09 PM#52
I think Seph can be added as an assist or something. But yeah no chance for Crono.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Match CXLI: (1) Link vs. (4) Cloud Strife

Current Contest Performance

Link
Defeated Ganondorf, 79.64% - 20.36%
Defeated Pikachu, 68.41% - 31.59%

Cloud Strife
Defeated Alucard, 60.40% - 39.60%
Defeated Crono, 56.73% - 43.27%

Analysis

For the next two days we will only have one match. Link vs. Cloud was always a classic match-up in the early days of this contest. However, there is no doubt that Link is the undisputed champion on this site. Despite two matches under his belt we still don’t have a great reading on Link as he was able to SFF both Ganondorf and Pikachu. Cloud’s performance against Crono shows that he still has strength, whether that places him has the number two is still up for debate.

After watching Mario dismantle Sephiroth it is hard to see Cloud not end up with the same fate. While Cloud may have received a boost from Super Smash Bros. 4 it is unlikely to help him in this match. If Link did get a substantial boost from Breath of the Wild, I wouldn’t be surprised if he broke 60%.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Link > Crono

charmander6000’s Prediction: Link wins, 57.62% - 42.38%
CBX - Today's Winners: Sonic and Samus
Safer_777 12/6/2018 1:41:50 PM#54
Yeah I expect Link to break 60% here for sure.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Advokaiser 12/6/2018 1:43:40 PM#55
charmander6000 posted...
charmander6000’s Prediction: Link wins, 57.62% - 42.38%


I think you're being a little generous with that number if you're saying he won't receive much of a Smash boost.
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Yuri_LowelI 12/6/2018 2:18:17 PM#56
Thing is...Link has boosted more

Also Cloud is probably at Samus/Mario level indirectly. so 58-60 is a out right. Anything below 58 and cloud is doing well. Anything above 60 and Link is doing well.
snake_5036 12/6/2018 3:31:25 PM#57
If Link breaks 60% on Cloud, that'll be both hilarious and sad
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abdou 12/6/2018 3:51:14 PM#58
Link getting stronger, thanks to BoTW and Cloud keeps getting weaker...it's inevitable that the gap between the two will get bigger. Mario went from getting destroyed by Sephiroth to crushing him almost 60-40. Same fate waiting for Cloud, sadly.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
I'm willing to give Zelda the benefit of the doubt against Sonic and say that she underperformed slightly due to a bad picture mismatch. If she didn't - which suggests Snake might be a hair stronger indirectly and she just ripped some Nintendo support away from him - it suggests good things for her against Samus and possibly even Mario.


It does seem like Zelda underperformed slightly against Sonic. We've already seen that Snake/Zelda are pretty much equal, but Zelda did about 1% worse against Sonic than Snake did. Sprite pictures appear to have hurt Zelda, but the effect of sprites is roughly a 1% reduction.
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That anti-Cloud board vote...

Link was at 70%
CBX - Today's Winner: Link
davidponte 12/6/2018 4:00:50 PM#61
Cloud looking great to start as always
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charmander6000 posted...
That anti-Cloud board vote...

Link was at 70%


The Hylian Hammer!
Big Bob 12/6/2018 4:01:18 PM#63
Dammit Board 8, Link's supposed to be the bad guy now.
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red sox 777 12/6/2018 4:01:26 PM#64
Link54.41% 111
Cloud Strife45.59% 93
TOTAL VOTES204

Aw yeah Cloud
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Cloud looking respectable!
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Hey, we got two sets of pics for this round.
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snake_5036 12/6/2018 4:02:15 PM#67
like i said, though

Link always has all of the reasons to break bank on Cloud but Cloud always keeps him under 55%

let's see if he can hold through the rest of the match
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tgs2 12/6/2018 4:02:56 PM#68
Cloud has had every reason to fall off, but still does 42%+ on a BotW boosted Link. The world refuses to change
Man Cloud almost had the lead there. He was within 12 votes with like 400 cast when I was refreshing
that board vote tho
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We have rotating match pictures today. Here are all of the match pictures I could find:

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-squirrel-4.png
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-boss-4.png

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/cloud-f-ulti-4.png
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/cloud-f-ulti-4a.png
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snake_5036 12/6/2018 4:04:08 PM#72
That Hyrule Warriors Link pic looks amazing btw
You felt your sins weighing down on your neck.
Yeah, looks like Cloud actually picked up some early vote on Link.
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red sox 777 12/6/2018 4:05:28 PM#74
Still early but Cloud looking good to hold his 46% firewall today.
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Lopen 12/6/2018 4:06:08 PM#75
Early vote in this match is funny

The super early people know Link actually wins all the time and anti-vote him
Then you've got the casual early people who still anti-vote FFVII

Cloud probably increases less than usual because of the super early vote, but I think Cloud can probably keep this below 55%
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squall1981 12/6/2018 4:07:26 PM#76
be interesting to see how much closer this would be if people weren't voting for their brackets
LinkMarioSamus posted...
I'm surprised Snake was the pre-contest favorite against Samus despite Metal Gear being dead and Metroid having just been resurrected.


I'm not. Bracketmakers remember the last known values; they tend to assume some boost from a new game/decline in the absence of a new game, but the latter is something that we expect to happen gradually. Of course, we forgot to account for the fact that contests are far more infrequent. (Obligatory reminder that CBVIII started closer to CBI than to CBX.)
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So that’s it....

Can we all admit it’s Zelda or Cloud now?

That Mario and Samus have NO CHANCE at Cloud.
red sox 777 12/6/2018 4:10:07 PM#79
Based on Crono/Vincent 2007, Cloud wins with 54.07%.
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FinaIFantasy posted...
So that’s it....

Can we all admit it’s Zelda or Cloud now?

That Mario and Samus have NO CHANCE at Cloud.


About that...
https://imgur.com/M1heX2g
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snake_5036 12/6/2018 4:10:20 PM#81
ROFL

Link jumped tremendously that update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gigOz4vSJDU
You felt your sins weighing down on your neck.
Damn, Link.
CBX - Today's Winner: Link
FinaIFantasy posted...
So that’s it....

Can we all admit it’s Zelda or Cloud now?

That Mario and Samus have NO CHANCE at Cloud.


You had to open your mouth
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Yeah, I think Link's starting to get those FFVII always wins trends.
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Zelda vs. Cloud in a contest match, who do you take?
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Not_Wylvane 12/6/2018 4:11:19 PM#86
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I wonder how strong Cloud would be if Final Fantasy used the same cast for every game like Zelda
MarquessLaus posted...
FinaIFantasy posted...
So that’s it....

Can we all admit it’s Zelda or Cloud now?

That Mario and Samus have NO CHANCE at Cloud.


You had to open your mouth


This aged well.

WHAT THE f***?!!
ShatteredElysium posted...
I wonder how strong Cloud would be if Final Fantasy used the same cast for every game like Zelda


He wouldn't exist.
https://imgur.com/M1heX2g
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red sox 777 12/6/2018 4:11:48 PM#90
Wow. What an update for Link. Never thought I'd see Cloud lose 3% on update 2.....
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Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!
Well assume that Cloud would be the lead like Link is
redrocket 12/6/2018 4:12:18 PM#92
FinaIFantasy posted...
MarquessLaus posted...
FinaIFantasy posted...
show hidden quote(s)
So that’s it....

Can we all admit it’s Zelda or Cloud now?

That Mario and Samus have NO CHANCE at Cloud.


You had to open your mouth


This aged well.

WHAT THE f***?!!


Beast of the Wild is Real.
It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest
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Big Bob posted...
Dammit Board 8, Link's supposed to be the bad guy now.


Never.

Link is like Superman. He's basically invincible under normal circumstances and can only be beaten by exploiting a specific weakness, but despite how easily he defeats any challenger in the absence of said weakness, it's hard to root against him.
"Someday I'll catch up, and then you'll all be surprised!"
BKSheikah has the power. He is the one.
Uh....

Can someone explain this?

Cloud has a s*** board vote.
And Link doesn’t....
And that was during the power hour...

How the hell did Link explode like that on Cloud who has the worst first 5 ever?
redrocket 12/6/2018 4:15:43 PM#95
FinaIFantasy posted...
Uh....

Can someone explain this?

Cloud has a s*** board vote.
And Link doesn’t....
And that was during the power hour...

How the hell did Link explode like that on Cloud who has the worst first 5 ever?


Apparently you missed the memo. Link has the worst first 5 of the entire field now.
It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest
ShatteredElysium posted...
I wonder how strong Cloud would be if Final Fantasy used the same cast for every game like Zelda


Technically Zelda doesn't. It's more of a legacy title.

There have been like 10 different Links or something. Probably more.

In order of their games' releases, since I can never remember the timeline:

Z1/Z2
ALttP/LA/OoS/OoA (and there's some debate that that's actually two Links)
OoT/MM
FS
WW/PH
MC
FSA
TP
ST
SS
ALBW
BotW

That's 12, not counting the non-canon CDi games, and I've probably forgotten at least one. Also there's a second one in ALBW.
"Someday I'll catch up, and then you'll all be surprised!"
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snake_5036 12/6/2018 4:15:46 PM#97
FinaIFantasy posted...
Can someone explain this?

BEAST of the Wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B57At7nuFg
You felt your sins weighing down on your neck.
FinaIFantasy posted...
Uh....

Can someone explain this?

Cloud has a s*** board vote.
And Link doesn’t....
And that was during the power hour...

How the hell did Link explode like that on Cloud who has the worst first 5 ever?


Link lost the board vote by 6% to Ganondorf, which is more than Cloud lost the board vote to Crono.
https://imgur.com/M1heX2g
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tgs2 12/6/2018 4:17:16 PM#99
Link might actually break 62% on Cloud at this rate. Theoretically, how high does Link need to go to lower Alucard down to the 2010 result he had on Link?
FinaIFantasy posted...
So that’s it....

Can we all admit it’s Zelda or Cloud now?

That Mario and Samus have NO CHANCE at Cloud.


WTF is it with you and overhyping Zelda?? Shes not doing Squat. She'll get bet by both Mario and Samus

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