_Dog_ posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
If mario can only get 53-55% on Samus then somehow the SFF has been weakened between the two. Which still baffles me as Odyssey should have done wonders for Mario. Samus still hasn't had a AAA Game since Prime 3.

What makes Prime 3 AAA and not Other M? Was there a big difference in budget?


Yeah huge difference. And Critical ratings as well. Other M Had to be developed by a 3rd party. Lower Budget with a 3rd party Dev Team. Prime 3 was Retros most expensive game to date.

But I'm combining Production Costs and Critical Reception. Prime 3 got AAA Reviews. Other M didn;t.
Mario only got around 54% against Samus in 2006-8, albeit with Link in the same poll. I do remember getting lots of joy out of the fact that after a bunch of people on this board picked Mario to beat Crono even in the face of Triple Nintendo SFF, Samus ended up getting about a bazillion more cuts on Mario than Mario got on Crono that day.
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SlugSh0t 12/3/2018 4:20:26 PM#203
holy s*** sonic doing much better than i thought o_O nice updates
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Averia 12/3/2018 4:21:06 PM#205
Snake and Auron are fraud
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okay so Snake is just a fraud, got it
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VeryInsane 12/3/2018 4:21:45 PM#207
I think Samus has just gotten more resistant to SFF over the years

Like she killed Zelda last time they fought. And Super Metroid went toe to toe with Majora’s Mask
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
If mario can only get 53-55% on Samus then somehow the SFF has been weakened between the two. Which still baffles me as Odyssey should have done wonders for Mario. Samus still hasn't had a AAA Game since Prime 3.

I think Mario is lower on the hierarchy now. It's a theory I've held for a while, but 10+ years ago, he was pretty much the sole face of the company (Pikachu being perhaps the lone exception). Mario was the only character they used when promoting things on a Nintendo-wide scale.

That isn't the case anymore. Nintendo has branched out and is using many of their formerly overlooked characters in their marketing. This was evident with projects like the "Year of Luigi" and with Mario's significantly lessened role in marketing Ultimate. He was hardly prominent in any of those trailers.


Because its not a Mario Game. Mario Kart Mario Tennis are Mario Games.

Smash was never a Mario Game.

When I think of Smash I think of 4 Characters but thts just me

Sheik Fox Marth and Samus
Sonic's trying his all to save face. He's certainly looking better now than 15 minutes ago, though he's got a pretty big picture advantage, so pretty much any loss will be seen as sheer disrespect from Zelda.

In the other match, Mario is looking somewhat safe now, but no way will he approach 2005's 60% win. Good on Samus.
ZeldaTPLink 12/3/2018 4:22:32 PM#210
Nanis23 posted...
Is this Minish Cap Zelda

You know, I think she will suffer from the sprite the most
She shouldn't be in danger of losing to Sonic but..who knows
Also we didn't see sprites affecting negatively anyone this contest, they all performed as expected


If Bacondorf didn't affect that match then Link performed better against Pikachu than he did against Ganon.

I dob't trust the Bacondorf match at all. That was pic factor through and through.
So did Solid Snake overperform on Auron with a Solid **** photo?

Or maybe Snake being in Smash Bros. allows Nintendo to (r)SFF him.
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charmander6000 posted...
So did Solid Snake overperform on Auron with a Solid **** photo?

Or maybe Snake being in Smash Bros. allows Nintendo to (r)SFF him.


To be fair, if people aren't going to recognize Snake because of that pic, I'm 1000% sure Metal Gear has a higher playrate here than Record Keeper.

Plus Snake's most popular game is on the PS2 (don't pretend MGS3, where the character is called Snake, has no impact on Snake's popularity).
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charmander6000 posted...
So did Solid Snake overperform on Auron with a Solid **** photo?

Or maybe Snake being in Smash Bros. allows Nintendo to (r)SFF him.


Auron had by FAR the worst Sprite pic this round

Auron isn't a Sprite character. All those other characters bar Seph and Tifa have Sprites in 2D games they originated from.

Seriously It was far mroe damaging to Auron. But Snake as well but lesser extent.
Zelda is, from what we've seen, essentially equal to Snake. If she holds 55% here despite a clear picture disadvantage (her first of the contest), then I don't think that's a result that needs to be "explained away." It's not a bad result at all. If Sonic can actually make it close, then yeah, time to go through the book of excuses.
Advokaiser 12/3/2018 4:27:16 PM#215
Zelda has been continuously sinking since the match started.

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if Sonic pulls the upset!
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garetha200 12/3/2018 4:28:49 PM#216
Happy with Samus's performance. Pretty much all evidence suggested she'd hold up better now than she did in 2005, but it was still worrisome that she would collapse again somehow.
define Close? Because in my book 55-45 isn;t close. Snake/Zelda was Close yet everyone bashed Snake despite him severely being weakened over the years with Kojima/konami etc...

I like how people are giving Sonic Respect for keeping it "close" desite having a clear Pic advantage and coming into this tournament as a N9ner.

The fact is Sonic is clearly the weakest member of the Original N9. Lets not think otherwise. He'd lose to Pikachu
Advokaiser posted...
Zelda has been continuously sinking since the match started.

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if Sonic pulls the upset!


Unfortunately even with his best possible 2D pic he'll still lose because he doesn't even have the sort of pulling power of a Pikachu even to gain some rallies from.
SlugSh0t 12/3/2018 4:31:03 PM#219
Yuri_LowelI posted...
define Close? Because in my book 55-45 isn;t close. Snake/Zelda was Close yet everyone bashed Snake despite him severely being weakened over the years with Kojima/konami etc...

I like how people are giving Sonic Respect for keeping it "close" desite having a clear Pic advantage and coming into this tournament as a N9ner.

The fact is Sonic is clearly the weakest member of the Original N9. Lets not think otherwise. He'd lose to Pikachu

whats with your hate bro? lol He was projected to get 42% off snake/auron/zelda/aerith/squall. He's doing better than that. N9? who cares, MM and crono would be getting stomped here as well.
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Lopen 12/3/2018 4:31:50 PM#220
26 vote cut from Samus

Make your time Mario.
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ZeldaTPLink 12/3/2018 4:32:28 PM#222
_Dog_ posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
If mario can only get 53-55% on Samus then somehow the SFF has been weakened between the two. Which still baffles me as Odyssey should have done wonders for Mario. Samus still hasn't had a AAA Game since Prime 3.

What makes Prime 3 AAA and not Other M? Was there a big difference in budget?


Other M is AAA but it's also a stinky pile of radiactive waste that should be talked about in history books to warn future generations not to repeat that mistake.
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26 vote Samus cut!
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SlugSh0t 12/3/2018 4:32:48 PM#225
cmon smaus!
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SlugSh0t posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
define Close? Because in my book 55-45 isn;t close. Snake/Zelda was Close yet everyone bashed Snake despite him severely being weakened over the years with Kojima/konami etc...

I like how people are giving Sonic Respect for keeping it "close" desite having a clear Pic advantage and coming into this tournament as a N9ner.

The fact is Sonic is clearly the weakest member of the Original N9. Lets not think otherwise. He'd lose to Pikachu

whats with your hate bro? lol He was projected to get 42% off snake/auron/zelda/aerith/squall. He's doing better than that. N9? who cares, MM and crono would be getting stomped here as well.


No Projections Post Last week don't count. I don't care how yo uguys want to spin it..

I said Sonic was turd before the LEgends Bracket and all i got was he's a lot stronger now because of his recent games.

Can someone clarify but is this the biggest % Defeat between a Non N9 and a N9 member 1v1?? I don't include Missingno but that was a closer match. 3 and 4 way s***ty polls don't count.
Uhhhh, Mario. That's not a good sign.
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Where is this coming from???
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Samus, she come to town...?
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SlugSh0t 12/3/2018 4:35:38 PM#231
wow sonic fell off a cliff.
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There's got to be a rally. That's the only thing that explains Zelda and Samus hugely spiking at the same time.
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Kotetsu534 12/3/2018 4:36:05 PM#234
Oh this is getting very interesting.
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FINISH THE FlGHT
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
hnnggg both updates
red sox 777 posted...
26 vote Samus cut!


hard to tell if Samus is just that strong or Mario absolutely sucks now in terms of SFF Power.

Also

Can we get some more LOL's for Sephiroth?
SlugSh0t 12/3/2018 4:36:27 PM#238
Yuri_LowelI posted...
SlugSh0t posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
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define Close? Because in my book 55-45 isn;t close. Snake/Zelda was Close yet everyone bashed Snake despite him severely being weakened over the years with Kojima/konami etc...

I like how people are giving Sonic Respect for keeping it "close" desite having a clear Pic advantage and coming into this tournament as a N9ner.

The fact is Sonic is clearly the weakest member of the Original N9. Lets not think otherwise. He'd lose to Pikachu

whats with your hate bro? lol He was projected to get 42% off snake/auron/zelda/aerith/squall. He's doing better than that. N9? who cares, MM and crono would be getting stomped here as well.


No Projections Post Last week don't count. I don't care how yo uguys want to spin it..

I said Sonic was turd before the LEgends Bracket and all i got was he's a lot stronger now because of his recent games.

Can someone clarify but is this the biggest % Defeat between a Non N9 and a N9 member 1v1?? I don't include Missingno but that was a closer match. 3 and 4 way s***ty polls don't count.

yes yes people always call sonic a fraud.. welcome to the gamefaqs contest. Point is, MM and Crono would be getting stomped here too. Sonic may be the weakest but lets not act as if theyre far beyond him if so.
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Averia 12/3/2018 4:36:33 PM#239
TheOneAboveAll posted...
There's got to be a rally. That's the only thing that explains Zelda and Samus hugely spiking at the same time.


The Hentai factor surely
TheOneAboveAll posted...
There's got to be a rally. That's the only thing that explains Zelda and Samus hugely spiking at the same time.

Samus didn't spike. Mario's votals fell off.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Qwaar 12/3/2018 4:36:44 PM#241
This makes no sense, Samus catching up so early and in large chunks. Rally or legit?
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TheOneAboveAll posted...
There's got to be a rally. That's the only thing that explains Zelda and Samus hugely spiking at the same time.


I wouldn't call Zelda a Spike. She was winning anyway and just got a bigger UPdate

Samus has been smoking something on some Planet shes been on
snake_5036 12/3/2018 4:37:08 PM#244
snake_5036 posted...
TheOneAboveAll posted...
That is not a good start from Mario.

Mario is still going to crush Samus and y'all can quote this and laugh if I end up being wrong

LOL
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TheOneAboveAll posted...
There's got to be a rally. That's the only thing that explains Zelda and Samus hugely spiking at the same time.

I don't know where you would rally Samus that you wouldn't risk them flocking to Mario.

Oh, hentai rallies. Of course.
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Qwaar posted...
This makes no sense, Samus catching up so early and in large chunks. Rally or legit?


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ZeldaTPLink 12/3/2018 4:37:24 PM#249
Big update from Zelda. She's not letting Sonic make it respectable.
SlugSh0t 12/3/2018 4:38:15 PM#250
poor sonic.. he was going up like 1% per update til those two random spikes.
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