scaryice 11/29/2018 6:27:52 AM#301
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squexa 11/29/2018 6:28:05 AM#302
FINALS BRACKET ROUND 1: SNAKE VS. ZELDA
Solid Snake
50%
10554

Zelda
50%
10554

TOTAL VOTES
21108
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OFool 11/29/2018 6:30:53 AM#303
So this looking like it will happen to the Lineal 9

Samus
Zelda > Snake
Sephiroth > Vincent > Crono
Mega Man > Red > Squall > Missingno. > Crono > L-Block > Sonic
Crono > Bowser > Kirby > Big Boss > Luigi > Weighted Companion Cube > Mega Man
Tifa Lockheart > Mewtwo > Sonic > Kirby > Sephiroth
Pikachu > Squirtle > Cloud
Link > Ganondorf > Vivi > Mario
Amaterasu > Draven > Link

Samus may become the only one to never lose their spot.
squexa 11/29/2018 6:38:58 AM#304
OFool posted...
So this looking like it will happen to the Lineal 9

Samus
Zelda > Snake
Sephiroth > Vincent > Crono
Mega Man > Red > Squall > Missingno. > Crono > L-Block > Sonic
Crono > Bowser > Kirby > Big Boss > Luigi > Weighted Companion Cube > Mega Man
Tifa Lockheart > Mewtwo > Sonic > Kirby > Sephiroth
Pikachu > Squirtle > Cloud
Link > Ganondorf > Vivi > Mario
Amaterasu > Draven > Link

Samus may become the only one to never lose their spot.


Ugh Zelda/Snake is still a toss-up, although Mario will probably take the spot from whoever emerges from the Zelda/Snake/Sonic pack down the line.
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squexa posted...
And Snake has also the bracket advantage, since the BOP had almost nobody having Zelda here.


It's not a sure thing that Snake has the overall bracket advantage. Mega Man was massive favorite over Pikachu on this board (in both brackets), but Pikachu had a huge amount of support from the casuals in the Second Chance contest.
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Zelda by the hour:

time | percent | gain/loss | lead/deficit
20:00 | 50.64% | +50 | +50
21:00 | 51.10% | +55 | +105
22:00 | 52.27% | +98 | +203
23:00 | 50.30% | +11 | +214
00:00 | 52.87% | +84 | +298
01:00 | 51.00% | +29 | +327
02:00 | 46.02% | -96 | +231
03:00 | 47.79% | -43 | +188
04:00 | 49.82% | -3 | +185
05:00 | 44.30% | -80 | +105
06:00 | 44.84% | -75 | +30
07:00 | 46.95% | -54 | -24
08:00 | 50.00% | 0 | -24
09:00 | 50.58% | +12 | -12
10:00 | 50.98% | +20 | +8

Zelda's largest lead was 342 at 12:35am
Snake's largest lead was 50 at 7:30am
Nanis23 11/29/2018 7:20:17 AM#307
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Qwaar 11/29/2018 7:54:21 AM#308
What's the record for the closest gap at the end of a match?
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Advokaiser 11/29/2018 7:54:53 AM#309
scaryice posted...
https://i.imgtc.com/cdne9tM.png


Awesome.
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QJD1381 11/29/2018 7:58:43 AM#310
Looks like Snake is going to salvage this win. Too late to save face, however.
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ZeldaTPLink 11/29/2018 8:00:45 AM#311
QJD1381 posted...
Looks like Snake is going to salvage this win. Too late to save face, however.


How do you deduce that from a match where Snake is losing and has been stalling for the last 5 hours?
Qwaar posted...
What's the record for the closest gap at the end of a match?


7 votes in 1 on 1. 3 votes when not 1 on 1
Looks like Zelda stopped to adjust her sandals while walking through a melon patch.

Edit: Or not.
Yesmar
(edited 11/29/2018 8:02:47 AM)report
11:00 | 51.47% | +29 | +37

Based on the last 6 hours, Snake wins by 54 votes.
Based on the last hour, Zelda wins by 269 votes.
Based on the last 30 minutes, Zelda wins by 229 votes.
QJD1381 11/29/2018 8:18:46 AM#315
ZeldaTPLink posted...
QJD1381 posted...
Looks like Snake is going to salvage this win. Too late to save face, however.


How do you deduce that from a match where Snake is losing and has been stalling for the last 5 hours?

Just a gut feeling. Zelda was up around 300 votes last night east coast, I wake up this morning and she's only hanging on by about 40, and with still around 8 hours to go.
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Ilishe 11/29/2018 8:21:40 AM#316
Snake? Stop kidding around.

Snake...?

SNAAAAAKE!
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We at least saw with pikachu though that winning the early vote then being even for the remainder of the match could indicate winning the end of the match since it's a similar group visiting the sight outside of the board vote.

So zelda winning early means barring a rally snake might need to get a couple hundred vote lead in the next few hours to hang on.
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Yuri_LowelI 11/29/2018 8:25:31 AM#318
Sonic is pretty weak tbh. He’ll get beaten handily by Zelda next round or snake if he makes it.

Can’t wait for Mario to 60-40 Seph.

This is the year of the Mario.
Qwaar 11/29/2018 8:25:34 AM#319
Ok, we need a snake rally.
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Qwaar posted...
Ok, we need a snake rally.


Nah this is a much better result with the potential for Zelda to go on a tear. Snake will still get his in the Loser's Bracket. I say let it happen.
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squexa 11/29/2018 8:35:41 AM#321
SBAllen should have put Sephiroth in Link's place and put Link in the Legends of Legends tier as the final boss for whoever makes it out of Legends.
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It's the fact that it's Zelda that is jarring for me. We already get to see Link destroy everything all the time, we don't need a second person from the same game wading their way through the N9 too
I for one am impressed a female character can be such a beast without having to hide under a suit or without boobs the size of watermelons. It's not like Zelda will win the whole thing and she is giving us memorable matches, who cares if she's from the same series as Link?
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Kotetsu534 11/29/2018 9:03:40 AM#324
It's over boys. At least Nintendo released an all-time great Zelda to cause this. Konami's mismanagement of MGS since MGS4 has been relentlessly depressing.
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guffguy89 11/29/2018 9:04:42 AM#325
Omniscientless posted...
I for one am impressed a female character can be such a beast without having to hide under a suit or without boobs the size of watermelons. It's not like Zelda will win the whole thing and she is giving us memorable matches, who cares if she's from the same series as Link?


Because certain people on here dislike anything LoZ and already have to deal with the inevitable Link championship. They don't want to see another Zelda character dominating.

Though at this point, if you are anti-Nintendo, it's probably best to just stop following this contest.
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12:00 | 54.75% | +91 | +128

The day vote is finally here.

Based on the last 11 hours, Zelda wins by 1 vote.
Based on the last 2 hours, Zelda wins by 548 votes.
Based on the last hour, Zelda wins by 765 votes.
Based on the last 30 minutes, Zelda wins by 1010 votes.

Based on the last 11 hours and 25 minutes, Snake wins by 3 votes.
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I don't support the Link domination either, but Zelda is her own character and hating her by proxy is silly when she is consistently delivering entertainment in the contest. Link is an entity of his own worthy of scorn, but Zelda shouldn't be blamed for it.
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malyg posted...
Zelda, botw, and maybe the Nintendo switch subreddit would be the best places to rally zelda on reddit
Also thelostwoods if you're one of those deviants is the zelda specific pornsub I believe


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I'm surprised that Zelda is actually doing better with anonymous voters than users
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squexa posted...
OFool posted...
So this looking like it will happen to the Lineal 9

Samus
Zelda > Snake
Sephiroth > Vincent > Crono
Mega Man > Red > Squall > Missingno. > Crono > L-Block > Sonic
Crono > Bowser > Kirby > Big Boss > Luigi > Weighted Companion Cube > Mega Man
Tifa Lockheart > Mewtwo > Sonic > Kirby > Sephiroth
Pikachu > Squirtle > Cloud
Link > Ganondorf > Vivi > Mario
Amaterasu > Draven > Link

Samus may become the only one to never lose their spot.


Ugh Zelda/Snake is still a toss-up, although Mario will probably take the spot from whoever emerges from the Zelda/Snake/Sonic pack down the line.


No, Mario will get a spot back by beating Sephiroth. Then Sephiroth will get a new spot by beating Tifa in Losers' (since she won't lose hers by losing to Samus).

The winner of the Zelda/Sonic/Snake pack should still hold a spot.

Right now, the projected Lineal Nine at the end of this contest is Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Samus, Mario, Crono, Mega Man, Sonic/Snake/Zelda, and Amaterasu.

If Mega Man wins the rematch with Pikachu, Pikachu would then be projected to hold a spot at contest's end instead of Mega Man. Conversely, if Pikachu upsets Crono in Losers' as well, Pikachu and Mega Man would both hold spots and Crono would not. (My projections assume that Cloud will pick up a spot from Crono and that Crono will regain a spot by beating the winner of the Pikachu-Mega Man rematch.)
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I have Zelda winning this and Snake winning a runback in losers. Optimal result so far.
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Lopen posted...
See that's not like, off on an island. You could also believe Vincent > Aeris by some amount. Contest history would certainly suggest it. You can't go TOO high as Sub-Zero and Magus anchor it to some ectent, but yeah I dunno.

I think a lot of people are writing Sonic off just because he's historically been the NN whipping boy, but Sonic probably isn't the weakest NNer this year based on previous rounds


Oh, historically Vincent has been stronger than Aerith--he was possibly the #3 FFVII character, #4 at worst (Tifa has been just as impressive). But now? I'm not sure. Vincent didn't look great this year.
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squexa 11/29/2018 9:34:15 AM#333
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Right now, the projected Lineal Nine at the end of this contest is Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Samus, Mario, Crono, Mega Man, Sonic/Snake/Zelda, and Amaterasu.


Would be amazing if the Lineal Nine ends up just being the Noble Nine -1 with Amaterasu
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Well, the Noble Nine are still pretty strong. Though I wouldn't be too surprised if Pikachu managed to hold his spot via beating Crono rather than by losing the rematch with Mega. Crono was the one Pikachu got his spot from in the first place, though it comes with an asterisk in that it was a threeway with Magus.

And if you assume that Mega's loss to Pikachu alone was foreshadowed by him getting under 50% against Mewtwo/Pikachu when the two Pokémon were closer to each other than to Mega (and Mewtwo actually won that one, not Pikachu), you certainly have to think that Pikachu getting under 50% against Crono/Magus with Crono far closer to Pikachu than to Magus means that Pikachu should lose to Crono alone! (Full disclosure: Back in 2013, I believed that Pikachu could beat Crono "cleanly". Now? ...I still believe that in 2013, Pikachu could've beaten Crono "cleanly". But even though Pikachu looks even stronger now than he did then, Crono no longer looks like the weak link of the Noble Nine. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd returned to the middle third, even. Snake looks to have returned to his pre-2006 strength, and of course Mega Man seems like the clear weakest link now. It all comes down to whether you think Crono would be able to avenge his 2006 loss to Sonic.)
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tennisboy213 11/29/2018 10:04:29 AM#335
13:00 | 50.17% | +3 | +131

Based on the last 2 hours, Zelda wins by 413 votes.
Based on the last hour, Zelda wins by 149 votes.
Based on the last 30 minutes, Zelda wins by 83 votes.
Based on the last 15 minutes, Snake wins by 37 votes.
FinaIFantasy 11/29/2018 10:07:03 AM#336
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Well, the Noble Nine are still pretty strong. Though I wouldn't be too surprised if Pikachu managed to hold his spot via beating Crono rather than by losing the rematch with Mega. Crono was the one Pikachu got his spot from in the first place, though it comes with an asterisk in that it was a threeway with Magus.

And if you assume that Mega's loss to Pikachu alone was foreshadowed by him getting under 50% against Mewtwo/Pikachu when the two Pokémon were closer to each other than to Mega (and Mewtwo actually won that one, not Pikachu), you certainly have to think that Pikachu getting under 50% against Crono/Magus with Crono far closer to Pikachu than to Magus means that Pikachu should lose to Crono alone! (Full disclosure: Back in 2013, I believed that Pikachu could beat Crono "cleanly". Now? ...I still believe that in 2013, Pikachu could've beaten Crono "cleanly". But even though Pikachu looks even stronger now than he did then, Crono no longer looks like the weak link of the Noble Nine. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd returned to the middle third, even. Snake looks to have returned to his pre-2006 strength, and of course Mega Man seems like the clear weakest link now. It all comes down to whether you think Crono would be able to avenge his 2006 loss to Sonic.)


Link
Cloud
Mario
Samus
Crono (moving to 2 if he wins his next match)
Snake
Sonic
MegaMan
Seph

Seems the most likely we have so far, but Crono/Cloud Zelda/Sonic and Mario/Seph will finally give us true answers.

Also. I don’t know exactly where to slot Zelda and Pikachu yet. But they are definitely both top 10
Kira_Amaya 11/29/2018 10:08:10 AM#337
Qwaar posted...
Ok, we need a snake rally.


do it and i'll make another hentai rally.

in all seriousness let's keep things as fair as possible.
Nanis23 11/29/2018 10:08:12 AM#338
I wonder what would have happened if Snake faced Zelda in the second round (first isn't even a possible "if" because of seeding)
I mean right now this is "surprising, but expected" but if that match was right after her match with Ezio people would just say "Ezio sucks now" and the surprise of Zelda>Snake would have been insane

Sure, she might not have won without a bandwagon boost, but who knows how and if it affects non-joke characters
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Safer_777 11/29/2018 10:15:23 AM#339
Came back from work, checked the results. This is what I have to say.

1st match=Do I even need to say anything? This is the 2nd strongest character in the site? Yeah sure.
2nd match=If Auron manages to hold Sonic under 55% I will be fine.

So Noble Nine?
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You seriously think Seph is at the bottom? There's absolutely no evidence for that. He's still only lost one 1v1 against anyone other than Cloud or Link (Snake in 2010, probably the strongest Snake has ever been), and even in multiways, RallyDraven and CounterrallyMewtwo are the only non-Link characters to beat him in a poll that Cloud wasn't in. I can understand projecting him to have fallen behind Mario, maybe even Samus. But Crono, Mega Man, and Sonic? I don't know. (Snake isn't counted in this because Seph was already behind him last we knew, since Snake's last known value was a lot better than what he seems to be now.)
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tennisboy213 11/29/2018 10:20:41 AM#341
Nanis23 posted...
I wonder what would have happened if Snake faced Zelda in the second round (first isn't even a possible "if" because of seeding)
I mean right now this is "surprising, but expected" but if that match was right after her match with Ezio people would just say "Ezio sucks now" and the surprise of Zelda>Snake would have been insane

That got me thinking about the most surprising wins of the contest so far. Not pre-contest but on the day-of. To me, 2B > Ness and Bowser > Kirby were the two biggest. They were both pretty big underdogs on the day of the match. You could also throw DK > Leon in there.
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squexa 11/29/2018 10:23:03 AM#342
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Mega Man seems like the clear weakest link now.


I'm not entirely convinced that Mega Man is the weakest, since I think it could still be Sonic. Pikachu got around 66% on Scorpion, while Sonic is projected through Auron to get around 60% on Sub-Zero. Sub-Zero should be stronger than Scorpion, but I don't know if he's that much stronger.
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FinaIFantasy 11/29/2018 10:23:28 AM#343
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
You seriously think Seph is at the bottom? There's absolutely no evidence for that. He's still only lost one 1v1 against anyone other than Cloud or Link (Snake in 2010, probably the strongest Snake has ever been), and even in multiways, RallyDraven and CounterrallyMewtwo are the only non-Link characters to beat him in a poll that Cloud wasn't in. I can understand projecting him to have fallen behind Mario, maybe even Samus. But Crono, Mega Man, and Sonic? I don't know. (Snake isn't counted in this because Seph was already behind him last we knew, since Snake's last known value was a lot better than what he seems to be now.)


Crono is definitely above him.

As to the rest do I expect him to beat Pikachu, nope.
Would I expect him to get 53 on Auron without SFF. Not at all.

Maybe I’m wrong and he’ll hang with or beat Mario: but Seph is absolute s*** right now, and I wouldn’t even be surprised if he’s not top 20.

I can’t imagine Sonic losing to Bowser or Yoshi. I could see Seph doing it right now.
FinaIFantasy 11/29/2018 10:25:18 AM#344
Also, um, math people.

Can y’all craft me something where Zelda beats Mario, cause I’m assuming if she does I would win both the contest and second chance.
Safer_777 11/29/2018 10:32:10 AM#345
This is 0% chance. I bet anything. Mario can't lose to anyone now, except Link and MAYBE Samus.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
trogita 11/29/2018 10:32:29 AM#346
With the Odyssey boost? No chance.
FinaIFantasy posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
You seriously think Seph is at the bottom? There's absolutely no evidence for that. He's still only lost one 1v1 against anyone other than Cloud or Link (Snake in 2010, probably the strongest Snake has ever been), and even in multiways, RallyDraven and CounterrallyMewtwo are the only non-Link characters to beat him in a poll that Cloud wasn't in. I can understand projecting him to have fallen behind Mario, maybe even Samus. But Crono, Mega Man, and Sonic? I don't know. (Snake isn't counted in this because Seph was already behind him last we knew, since Snake's last known value was a lot better than what he seems to be now.)


Crono is definitely above him.

As to the rest do I expect him to beat Pikachu, nope.
Would I expect him to get 53 on Auron without SFF. Not at all.

Maybe I’m wrong and he’ll hang with or beat Mario: but Seph is absolute s*** right now, and I wouldn’t even be surprised if he’s not top 20.

I can’t imagine Sonic losing to Bowser or Yoshi. I could see Seph doing it right now.


How do you figure that? Were you not paying attention to his matches, or do you just not have respect for his opponents? The only one that looks remotely "bad" to me was only 70-30ing Wesker in a year that RE seemed to be down.

After that? Three solid (60%+) wins over varying degrees of midcarders. For reasons still unknown, fighting game characters seemed to be stronger than usual this year, and Ryu already had a reputation for consistently breaking 40% on Noble Niners from the early days of the contest, so his failure to do so against Sephiroth should be sign enough that Seph's still got it. (Full list of characters to break 60% on Ryu directly: Cloud 3 times (twice in fourways and once 1v1), Samus in one of those fourways with Cloud, Draven in the best of his five rounds, and now Sephiroth. That's it. No, he's never faced Link.)
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ZenOfThunder 11/29/2018 10:44:04 AM#348
Safer_777 11/29/2018 10:45:34 AM#349
Obviously that is MGM. Duh.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
ZeldaTPLink 11/29/2018 10:46:20 AM#350
Then00bAvenger posted...
I'm surprised that Zelda is actually doing better with anonymous voters than users


It makes sense if you consider MGS is a dead series and Zelda is not, so anons are less likely to care bout old stuff this site likes.

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