swirIdude 11/18/2018 6:35:52 PM#1
Will Tifa use X-rated rallies to stick a nail in Luigi?

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Yuri_LowelI 11/18/2018 6:51:18 PM#2
She doesn’t need rallies. This time Luigi cannot escape Death.
I mean vote counts already seem super high...
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LeonhartFour 11/18/2018 7:19:15 PM#4
Luigi cutting 53 votes in the past 20 minutes
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It's almost like Ulti had this exact same fight and the exact same opinion... 12 years ago.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/(1)Mario_vs_(1)Samus_Aran_2005
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This is exactly the same time that X started gaining a ton of votes against Tifa in their last match. It corresponds to more people on the east coast going to sleep - the midwest becomes the central US voting block, and it's easily Tifa's worst area.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
SlugSh0t 11/18/2018 7:34:21 PM#8
who the hell votes for luigi? He's a hack
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ExThaNemesis 11/18/2018 7:34:21 PM#9
I'm not playing Deltarune or any other Undertale trash Ulti stop asking me to
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ExThaNemesis posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Wait, I've been busy the last couple days, why on earth are people arguing Samus/Mario 2k4?

I thought that was dead and settled years ago


Dude where have you been?

That will never die.

The year will be 2050 and people will still be arguing about Mario/Samus rSFF


I'm travelling for work for the next 2 weeks.

Can someone explain to me the argument in favour of Samus being stronger? I never understood why anyone could possibly think that
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Ulti claiming that Mario would get more than 57% on Sonic when *this* happened:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1345-south-division-round-2-mario-vs-shadow-the-hedgehog
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Yesterday's X-Stats:

Division 5

Zelda – 50.00%
Aerith Gainsborough – 37.81%
Squall Leonhart – 36.68%
Fox McCloud – 35.77%
Jill Valentine – 32.83%
Waluigi – 32.19%
Captain Toad – 30.26%
The Boss – 29.30%
Shovel Knight – 28.70%
Garrus Vakarian – 26.39%
Ramza Beoulve – 26.06%
Metal Sonic – 25.48%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze – 24.67%
D. Va – 20.37%
Aloy – 19.18%
Hat Kid – 17.69%

Division 6

Auron – 50.00%
Geralt – 46.86%
Bayonetta – 46.04%
Simon Belmont – 44.81%
Vincent Valentine – 44.20%
Pac-Man – 44.13%
Ryu Hayabusa – 44.10%
Sub-Zero – 43.29%
Magus – 42.53%
Rosalina – 41.21%
Lucina – 34.56%
Riku – 32.77%
Shulk – 32.41%
Claire Redfield – 29.21%
Joker/Ren Amamiya – 27.12%
Sans – 25.27%
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
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Wait, I've been busy the last couple days, why on earth are people arguing Samus/Mario 2k4?

I thought that was dead and settled years ago


Dude where have you been?

That will never die.

The year will be 2050 and people will still be arguing about Mario/Samus rSFF


I'm travelling for work for the next 2 weeks.

Can someone explain to me the argument in favour of Samus being stronger? I never understood why anyone could possibly think that


Because every other match pointed to that until Samus and Mario actually met.
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Don’t you mean avoid getting nailed *by* Luigi?

As he’s losing he’s now trying to nail her from behind...

LeonhartFour posted...
Tifa #1 in the XXX-Stats

LOL.

Ulti
Oh no, Samus was definitely indirectly stronger in 2004. Not saying otherwise. My point is that the people who used that to think Samus wasn't going to get her ass whipped by Mario 1 on 1 are being idiots. It involves having a level of common sense so low that you might as well be telling me there are more than two genders.

I’m not claiming Samus beats Mario in previous years. We were debating whether Samus boosted significantly from 2K4 to 2K5, like Mario did.

I’m saying I don’t buy Mario pops 60% on her in 2K4. I could see up to 55%.
red sox 777 11/18/2018 7:37:27 PM#15
So as far as I can see, creative is saying Mario winning 60/40 in 2004 is unrealistic and Lopen says Samus winning in 2004 is unrealistic. How about both of those are unrealistic?

Personally, I'm of the opinion that Mario has SFF power of more than 10 points against Samus and Samus has been stronger than Mario indirectly in every year (assuming Mario can't rally or cheat either). And Mario wins that match directly in every year, through SFF.
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TheOneAboveAll posted...
It's almost like Ulti had this exact same fight and the exact same opinion... 12 years ago.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/(1)Mario_vs_(1)Samus_Aran_2005

Best part of this Ngamer making himself look like a moron right under my writeup and proving my entire point. The cultists only have their calculators as backup. That's it. They have zero street smarts or common sense, which is why I'm able to embarrass them all in the real world when I invest. There is no easier money than a no-common-sense nerd with disposable income. These are the same exact people who think the As starting a relief pitcher on the road against the Yankees in a one-off playoff game or the Dodgers sitting their top 4 home run hitters in a World Series game were good ideas. These people think basketball should be nothing more than 3s and layups. These people think things like "pressure" and "momentum" don't exist, because they've never put the pocket protector away and bothered getting their ass on the field to play a sport. These people think the Packers should have gone for it on 4th down with 4½ minutes left deep in their own territory. These people think Donald Trump is somehow bad for the country because they're triggered by any alpha male. I could go on for years.

Manalytics > analytics. You don't win in sports on calculators and you don't get every match right because of extrapolated standings. There's a reason I'm the only Board 8er to ever actually win a contest. Getting in the 99th percentile is easy. Winning is hard, because you actually have to go against stats and most of these people aren't capable.

By the way, this is why Leon and yoblazer always do well. They put the calculator down and say f*** it once in awhile.
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my word did you guys really spend the last topic still arguing about this

one more reason to be glad I have Tsunami on ignore
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Ulti claiming that Mario would get more than 57% on Sonic when *this* happened:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1345-south-division-round-2-mario-vs-shadow-the-hedgehog

That happened back when this site was actually popular and had non-Nintendo fans on it. Sonic himself hadn't yet bent the knee. 2003 was the worst year for Nintendo by a mile.

Now? Sonic's entire series is Nintendo and he's in Smash. There is zero chance Shadow could repeat that performance.
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Ryu Hayabusa – 44.10%
Sub-Zero – 43.29%
Magus – 42.53%
Rosalina – 41.21%


Hmmm, this doesn't quite look right to me, is the thinking that Geralt bandwagoned a bit in the later rounds? I never would have taken Hayabusa over Subby and Magus pre-contest
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lol xstats
LeonhartFour posted...
my word did you guys really spend the last topic still arguing about this

one more reason to be glad I have Tsunami on ignore

Mario > Samus always and forever and without the LOL X STATS there isn't a person on this planet dumb enough to think otherwise.

If that was a 2002 match, how many people here pick Samus? MAYBE two?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Best part of this Ngamer making himself look like a moron right under my writeup and proving my point.

Manalytics > analytics. You don't win in sports on calculators.


He doesn't look like a moron at all. He PICKED THE MATCH CORRECTLY, dude. Stop being a clown.
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Team Rocket Elite 11/18/2018 7:42:19 PM#23
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Ryu Hayabusa – 44.10%
Sub-Zero – 43.29%
Magus – 42.53%
Rosalina – 41.21%


Hmmm, this doesn't quite look right to me, is the thinking that Geralt bandwagoned a bit in the later rounds? I never would have taken Hayabusa over Subby and Magus pre-contest


Yeah, it has been suggested that Geralt may have bandwagoned a bit by the time he reached Auron. It's hard to say for sure.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Well, Geralt was certainly in a situation that's gotten people bandwagoned before. Winning multiple close matches is usually good for that sort of thing, especially if any of them are perceived by voters as an "upset."
red sox 777 11/18/2018 7:44:48 PM#26
Relax Ulti. People have known the x-stats aren't perfect for 13 years. You can use the stats without thinking they are perfect.
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SlugSh0t 11/18/2018 7:45:19 PM#27
What's Sephiroth predicted to get on current Samus like 45%?
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So judging by the trends from Tifa/X, Tifa should let Luigi get closer over the next few hours before taking off with the European vote and never looking back.

For all the "DURRR RALLIES" my thread on r/FF only has 156 views. It didn't take off at all today, probably because of the timing.
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Moonroof 11/18/2018 7:46:33 PM#29
He’d get around 48.6%.
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SlugSh0t posted...
What's Sephiroth predicted to get on current Samus like 45%?


Based on the 2013 stats, currently 42.62% but Sephy still has time to rise more than likely.
Moonroof 11/18/2018 7:47:23 PM#31
ExThaNemesis posted...
So judging by the trends from Tifa/X, Tifa should let Luigi get closer over the next few hours before taking off with the European vote and never looking back.

For all the "DURRR RALLIES" my thread on r/FF only has 156 views. It didn't take off at all today, probably because of the timing.


Where’s my apology?
LeonhartFour posted...
Based on the 2013 stats, currently 42.62% but Sephy still has time to rise more than likely.


Adjusting for like a 3% Ryu boost means Sephiroth could feasibly be back in SMAUS's ballpark.
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Tifa rallied what, 150 votes last round? Even if you hate rallies that's hardly worth getting pissed off about. That happens late in any close match.
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ExThaNemesis posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...

Best part of this Ngamer making himself look like a moron right under my writeup and proving my point.

Manalytics > analytics. You don't win in sports on calculators.


He doesn't look like a moron at all. He PICKED THE MATCH CORRECTLY, dude. Stop being a clown.

And then he defends the LOL X STATS anyway.

Like a clown.
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ExThaNemesis posted...
So judging by the trends from Tifa/X, Tifa should let Luigi get closer over the next few hours before taking off with the European vote and never looking back.

For all the "DURRR RALLIES" my thread on r/FF only has 156 views. It didn't take off at all today, probably because of the timing.


Are you really trying to extrapolate Luigi's trends from a Mega Man match?
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Tifa rallied what, 150 votes last round? Even if you hate rallies that's hardly worth getting pissed off about. That happens late in any close match.

Tifa rallied at least 500 votes. She started stalling and cutting during what should have been X's best time. If there were no rallies, X would have had a 400 vote lead going into that final hour. That's what all historical trends say would have happened.
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lol xstats
UltimaterializerX posted...
Tifa rallied what, 150 votes last round? Even if you hate rallies that's hardly worth getting pissed off about. That happens late in any close match.


It was probably well over 500, but who knows how many X got. It's really hard to tell.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
And then he defends the LOL X STATS anyway.

Like a clown.


He's not doing that, he's defending the people who used them to make a reasonable pick.

You are the least gracious winner in history and acting like this match was obvious is revisionist history ASF
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X's best time (like every Mega Man character) is the start of the match.
ExThaNemesis posted...
So judging by the trends from Tifa/X, Tifa should let Luigi get closer over the next few hours before taking off with the European vote and never looking back.

For all the "DURRR RALLIES" my thread on r/FF only has 156 views. It didn't take off at all today, probably because of the timing.


This should be a more even match than Tifa/X. The swings won't nearly be as big, because Luigi isn't a complete lame duck in Europe
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lol xstats
Just under 10% of brackets had Auron winning that division and we know Geralt had a good deal more casual brackets picking him to win three matches than Auron did. This despite that the gurus gave Auron the second biggest chance of anyone in the entire bracket of winning their division. (Sephiroth being #1)

If the voters at large perceived anyone as having pulled a cool upset to get there, it probably wasn't Geralt.
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ExThaNemesis posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Tifa rallied what, 150 votes last round? Even if you hate rallies that's hardly worth getting pissed off about. That happens late in any close match.


It was probably well over 500, but who knows how many X got. It's really hard to tell.

The Mega Man rally post had 150 upvotes. Even if you (stupidly) assume a 100% conversion rate, that isn't nearly as much as the several hundred upvotes across the r/FF and hentai crossposts
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TheOneAboveAll posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
So judging by the trends from Tifa/X, Tifa should let Luigi get closer over the next few hours before taking off with the European vote and never looking back.

For all the "DURRR RALLIES" my thread on r/FF only has 156 views. It didn't take off at all today, probably because of the timing.


Are you really trying to extrapolate Luigi's trends from a Mega Man match?

Tifa's night vote gains won't be as drastic against Luigi as MMX's. But she's already in the lead, so...
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
AxemRedRanger posted...
Just under 10% of brackets had Auron winning that division and we know Geralt had a good deal more casual brackets picking him to win three matches than Auron did. This despite that the gurus gave Auron the second biggest chance of anyone in the entire bracket of winning their division. (Sephiroth being #1)

If the voters at large perceived anyone as having pulled a cool upset to get there, it probably wasn't Geralt.


Well, I don't think it was a huge boost. Like I'm not saying Auron should've 60/40'd him there. Probably more like 55-56% instead of the 53% he got.
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
The Mega Man rally post had 150 upvotes. Even if you (stupidly) assume a 100% conversion rate, that isn't nearly as much as the several hundred upvotes across the r/FF and hentai crossposts


My thread had like 19 upvotes by the end so you can't blame me for s***.
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Moonroof 11/18/2018 7:58:01 PM#47
ExThaNemesis posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
The Mega Man rally post had 150 upvotes. Even if you (stupidly) assume a 100% conversion rate, that isn't nearly as much as the several hundred upvotes across the r/FF and hentai crossposts


My thread had like 19 upvotes by the end so you can't blame me for s***.


All 19 people who upvoted it went on to tell 10 of their friends each. That’s 190. Who knows how many of those people told their friends, likely another 500-1000.
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Geralt also ended up getting a ~50 upvote rally yesterday. Wouldn’t be surprised if that gave him an extra percent or two on Auron.
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Geralt getting 45% against Auron puts Hayabusa at 42.35% on Auron, which puts him right below Sub-Zero. That's prooobably more accurate.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
im317 11/18/2018 7:58:13 PM#50
ExThaNemesis posted...
So judging by the trends from Tifa/X, Tifa should let Luigi get closer over the next few hours before taking off with the European vote and never looking back.

For all the "DURRR RALLIES" my thread on r/FF only has 156 views. It didn't take off at all today, probably because of the timing.


yeah but Luigi is not the same kind of super weak in the EU as X. thought it is in her favor by a fair amount its not the 63-68 she got on X.
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