Lopen posted...
Means your predictive skills are a bad joke which is what I said.

Nope.

I called it. Told you so. Vindicated. Yet another thing I was ahead of the curve on.
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Lopen posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
You mean the 51.59% prediction post where I'm blatantly quoting SephG's pick as a joke?

I once picked Magus to beat Crono in the analysis crew. Means jack s***.


Means your predictive skills are a bad joke which is what I said.

You never really explained Mario vs Samus or ever called for a beatdown so you're not the real expert on it. That's me. I also stopped bringing that match up like 12 years ago.

So if they’d matched up in 2K4, you would’ve picked Mario?

But your pred would’ve been much closer right? Seeing team Mario beast it up in 2K5 must’ve influenced you?
Lopen 11/16/2018 7:56:49 PM#404
Lol

No u

Am I doing this right
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I can't believe you people are still arguing Mario/Samus in 2018.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
KamikazePotato posted...
I can't believe you people are still arguing Mario/Samus in 2018.


We're getting it twice this contest, so we might as well talk about it!
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swirIdude 11/16/2018 8:02:09 PM#407
LeonhartFour posted...
oh wait I just realized that the wider pictures this round means Tifa's jugs will actually be on display this time

Luigi no chance


Just as planned!
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KamikazePotato posted...
I can't believe you people are still arguing Mario/Samus in 2018.


I'd like to say I can't believe Ulti can't let anything go where he believes he was right but that would be a lie
Lopen 11/16/2018 8:02:56 PM#409
creativename posted...
So if they’d matched up in 2K4, you would’ve picked Mario?

But your pred would’ve been much closer right? Seeing team Mario beast it up in 2K5 must’ve influenced you?


I don't think I would've gone lower then 57-43 Mario at any point. Keep in mind I called for Mario > Samus on the assumption that the stats in 2004 were accurate summaries of their indirect strength.

The idea was that Samus had a more broad appeal due to being more badass and so would do better against the people who were not part of the core Nintendo fanbase but the majority of the core fans would disproportionately cede to Mario cause HIERARCHY.

I even made a crappy mspaint pie chart and Venn diagram and s*** to explain what I meant. I'm sure Leonhart at least remembers this. Surely!
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hahaha I had totally forgotten about the pie chart until you mentioned it just now

those really were the glory days of contests
pyresword 11/16/2018 8:05:01 PM#411
I'm not saying Kirby isn't strong.

I'm saying Kirby looks stronger than he actually is against characters like Phoenix Wright, and so trying to imply Kirby's real strength through that match and then using that to predict how he'll perform against Bowser is going to result in incorrect predictions.
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Inglebird 11/16/2018 8:05:24 PM#412
LeonhartFour posted...
oh wait I just realized that the wider pictures this round means Tifa's jugs will actually be on display this time

Luigi no chance


Ffs, people should be forced to whack off before voting to make it based on actual character and relevance and not sex appeal.
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Eh, I don't think I agree with that either.

I think if you put Kirby up against a non-Nintendo character of Bowser's strength level, he'd probably win, so I don't think it's just a matter of Kirby overperforming against weak characters and underperforming against strong ones.

With the way Kirby's cutting percentage right now, the final result's going to be pretty "close" anyway.
Lopen 11/16/2018 8:11:20 PM#414
If Kirby were to by some miracle squeak by Bowser here I'd call for a Kirby > Crono upset even taking in mind he limped past Bowser

Don't see Bowser getting within 10% of him though
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Wanglicious 11/16/2018 8:23:52 PM#415
*blinks*

Alucard is crushing Red.
he has gone from losing to Sora 45/55 in 2005 to pushing a 55/45 victory on the guy who beat Sora.

like i know SOTN got a bunch of recent re-releases and there's the Netflix Castlevania but goddamn, that's a stupid boost. yeah that match with Sora was over 10 years ago but you'd think Sora would've been at a similar level considering how strong nostalgia on gamefaqs is and KH3 hype. if those two had a match this year, Alucard would've beaten him by more than he lost to.
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Lopen 11/16/2018 8:25:59 PM#416
I think people have turned on Kingdom Hearts a bit to the point where the hype isn't helping enough

We've been jerked around with KH3 for like 10 years now. Some people have probably just tuned out at this point
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yeah I said this in my Crew writeup but Alucard has been the most surprising character of the contest for me

most of the surprisingly strong characters at least had good reasons but Alucard?

we really need to get Saber into the next Character Battle if having a show on Netflix is really worth that much...!
Lopen posted...
creativename posted...
So if they’d matched up in 2K4, you would’ve picked Mario?

But your pred would’ve been much closer right? Seeing team Mario beast it up in 2K5 must’ve influenced you?


I don't think I would've gone lower then 57-43 Mario at any point. Keep in mind I called for Mario > Samus on the assumption that the stats in 2004 were accurate summaries of their indirect strength.

The idea was that Samus had a more broad appeal due to being more badass and so would do better against the people who were not part of the core Nintendo fanbase but the majority of the core fans would disproportionately cede to Mario cause HIERARCHY.

I even made a crappy mspaint pie chart and Venn diagram and s*** to explain what I meant. I'm sure Leonhart at least remembers this. Surely!

No offense dude but I think you’re crazy LOL! 57% my gosh.

He got 59.79% in 2K5 and he clearly boosted more than 3 points. No way in hell he gets 57% in 2K4.
LeonhartFour posted...
yeah I said this in my Crew writeup but Alucard has been the most surprising character of the contest for me

most of the surprisingly strong characters at least had good reasons but Alucard?

we really need to get Saber into the next Character Battle if having a show on Netflix is really worth that much...!

This truly is The Plan finally come to fruition.

Alucard Akhbar.
Lopen 11/16/2018 8:31:34 PM#420
creativename posted...
He got 59.79% in 2K5 and he clearly boosted more than 3 points. No way in hell he gets 57% in 2K4.


Oh sure I actually agree with that. I think it probably would've been 55-45 or 54-46 in 2k4 now having fully absorbed his boost. I'm just saying I called for Mario over Samus in a stomp using their 2k4 values and that 2k5 prediction wasn't influenced that much by in contest results-- don't really think Mario seemed conclusively better vs his 2k4 self till the rounds after Samus
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KamikazePotato posted...
I can't believe you people are still arguing Mario/Samus in 2018.

Hierarchy talk on Bowser/Kirby and potentially Zelda/Samus actually makes it pretty relevant though.
Janus5k 11/16/2018 8:32:55 PM#422
What does Alucard need to get on Red for Godot to not be last in this division?
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Janus5k posted...
What does Alucard need to get on Red for Godot to not be last in this division?


55.12%

Alucard's gotta pick his game back up
Wanglicious 11/16/2018 8:38:26 PM#424
i mean hype is enough to have KH3 being the game the site wanted the most at the start of the year with almost 30%. since then we've had trailer after trailer after trailer of what's basically "we mean it this time, sequel, it's coming out." 2005 was a pretty good time for Sora too, maybe his strongest. so being around that level or a bit below it would've made some degree of sense, especially for a PS2 era RPG on this site.

it's just surprising to see a complete reversal, logically both would've dropped. but this is the old poll.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2103-gear-division-round-2-alucard-vs-sora

compare that to his performance on Red, we who know is basically equivalent to current Sora. for what it's worth, i think this is a pretty solid baseline to use as there should be minimal overlap going on. like sure, after KH3 comes out it won't be useful to use Sora anymore but that should help with analysis of how the site's changed.
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Wanglicious posted...
2005 was a pretty good time for Sora too, maybe his strongest.


nah that was definitely 2006

he nearly got 46% on Mega Man that year

feels so long ago
Lopen 11/16/2018 8:41:00 PM#426
Kinda the better comparison than Mario vs Samus for arguing against KIRBY VS BOWSER WAS SET IN STONE was Mario vs Crono 2003 vs 2004, which went from a 50-50 to a 53.5-46.5 with a mere ONE year gap with no real tangible reason for CT to boost or SMB to drop

That's a bigger gap difference than Kirby vs Bowser had in 2005 with 1/13 the time between contests to muddle with things
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FinaIFantasy 11/16/2018 8:44:08 PM#428
Lopen posted...
If Kirby were to by some miracle squeak by Bowser here I'd call for a Kirby > Crono upset even taking in mind he limped past Bowser

Don't see Bowser getting within 10% of him though


Gonna bookmark this for when the winners bracket final is literally Link>Crono...
Why is everyone hyping up Crono when he should the weaker of the N9ers? I know Chrono Trigger was strong in 2015 but game strength does not always translate into characters.
Lopen posted...
creativename posted...
He got 59.79% in 2K5 and he clearly boosted more than 3 points. No way in hell he gets 57% in 2K4.


Oh sure I actually agree with that. I think it probably would've been 55-45 or 54-46 in 2k4 now having fully absorbed his boost. I'm just saying I called for Mario over Samus in a stomp using their 2k4 values and that 2k5 prediction wasn't influenced that much by in contest results-- don't really think Mario seemed conclusively better vs his 2k4 self till the rounds after Samus

Since Mario seemed to have boosted 5 points, which should also increase his SFF powers, I’d have to think that at absolute bare minimum he does 6 points worse in 2K4.

But I think it would be more than that.

I believe that his increase in strength not only allowed him to expand the number of fans who indirectly prefer Samus but vote Mario 1v1, but also the rate of fans susceptible to prefer Mario but over-prefer Mario 1v1.

So his boost was a dual bladed weapon.

You could probably diagram this with a Venn diagram or graph too LOL.

I do believe Mario would’ve rSFFed Samus in 2K4. But I think it is very unclear if he would’ve won or not.
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handsomeboy2012 posted...
Why is everyone hyping up Crono when he should the weaker of the N9ers? I know Chrono Trigger was strong in 2015 but game strength does not always translate into characters.


it's hope based on that 2015 performance
Team Rocket Elite 11/16/2018 8:50:58 PM#432
People are hoping that at least some of that Chrono Trigger game boost rubbed off on Crono. He doesn't need to be able to beat Link or anything like that but just looking a step better would be nice.
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Magus and Frog have done well this year, which is also a point in his favor.
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handsomeboy2012 posted...
Why is everyone hyping up Crono when he should the weaker of the N9ers? I know Chrono Trigger was strong in 2015 but game strength does not always translate into characters.

Not only did CT do great as you said, but Magus actually didn’t embarrass himself. And Frog looked alright.
Lopen 11/16/2018 8:52:43 PM#435
creativename posted...
I believe that his increase in strength not only allowed him to expand the number of fans who indirectly prefer Samus but vote Mario 1v1, but also the rate of fans susceptible to prefer Mario but over-prefer Mario 1v1.


That's not a given though. Especially since a lot of Mario's boost in 2005 could be attributed to Nintendo as a whole getting stronger more than Mario specifically.

It's possible though. I'm just saying I wouldn't assume it.
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Lopen 11/16/2018 8:56:01 PM#436
Also keep in mind it's not a total given that Samus wasn't also stronger in 2005 than 2004. She kinda ruined Frog. It's possible that had she not run into Mario she'd still look indirectly stronger even in 2005. I kinda assume Mario gained more relative to her, but it is by no means a given.
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Wanglicious 11/16/2018 8:56:31 PM#437
alright, 05, 06. it was def a long time ago but that's the general baseline of how big he was then.
i'm just stupefied at how good Alucard's doing. especially because he should go up in percentage: Alucard's pattern generally has him at his weakest percentage at the start of matches; Red's pattern has him at his strongest at the start. if Red works similar to Peach, Alucard should be able to get just a little more than the US percentage, which would be an almost exact reversal.
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charmander6000 posted...
Give it a rest Lopen, Ulti literally thinks Mario would have defeated Samus in 2004.

Of course he would have and it's moronic to think otherwise. 2005 proved this by such a hilarious degree.


lol, imagine thinking that.

Sorry but we had a match actually happen that proved me right, champ. I, much like facts themselves, don't care about your feelings.


Again, Ulti stating obvious and commonly accepted facts and acting like he's the only bastion of truth and that everyone else has the opposite opinion.

No wonder he's a Republican! Just like the Cheeto Nazi, Ulti's word is truth no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary. Though at least in Ulti's case the evidence to the contrary never includes his own well-documented previous statements!
LeonhartFour posted...
yeah I said this in my Crew writeup but Alucard has been the most surprising character of the contest for me

most of the surprisingly strong characters at least had good reasons but Alucard?

we really need to get Saber into the next Character Battle if having a show on Netflix is really worth that much...!


Once again, I'm left wondering why Leonhart hates me so much when we literally have the same f***ing opinions about just about everything.

We've seen a little bit of Fate already but I'm sure it would do just fine on HentaiFAQs!
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FinaIFantasy 11/16/2018 8:57:50 PM#439
handsomeboy2012 posted...
Why is everyone hyping up Crono when he should the weaker of the N9ers? I know Chrono Trigger was strong in 2015 but game strength does not always translate into characters.


Can I ask you a question real quick.

If CT had WON the contest, as in beat OoT (because it was going to, OoT is my favorite game ever, but CT was winning before the cheating occurred, end of) would you still be saying Crono should be #9?

The thought that games don’t equal character is not always right anyway, but it’s blatantly incorrect with Crono. There is no character in this contest more intricately linked to his game strength than Crono. He has no other game, he is the absurd focal point of his game to the point they “share” a name.

Either CT had a one year out of nowhere boost that somehow died OR Crono is #2 or 3 period, and would blow the f***ing doors off Mario, Samus and Snake. There is no option 3, understand you either think CT had a one year crazy boost, or you think Crono is about to stomp everything. Because absolutely, thinking remotely hes even close to being as weak as Sonic or Seph after the murdering of 2015 means you.....
Lopen posted...
creativename posted...
I believe that his increase in strength not only allowed him to expand the number of fans who indirectly prefer Samus but vote Mario 1v1, but also the rate of fans susceptible to prefer Mario but over-prefer Mario 1v1.


That's not a given though. Especially since a lot of Mario's boost in 2005 could be attributed to Nintendo as a whole getting stronger more than Mario specifically.

It's possible though. I'm just saying I wouldn't assume it.

I didn’t say it was a fact. Obviously this is all very speculative.

IIRC it was a Mario crew boost. Did other Nintendo characters boost...?

Anyway, I don’t think there was much reason to believe Samus herself boosted, which is what matters. I really doubt she boosted.
im317 11/16/2018 8:59:43 PM#441
i was out since before the last match ended. is Bowser actually this strong?
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Lopen 11/16/2018 9:01:22 PM#442
creativename posted...
IIRC it was a Mario crew boost. Did other Nintendo characters boost...?


Kirby vs Tidus was thought to be somewhat debatable and Kirby obliterated him. I'd argue Ganondorf and Zelda also outdid expectations
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I'm not saying Crono should be super weak, I just don't see him getting to the finals like some have been speculating, given his recent contest performance
Lopen posted...
I'd argue Ganondorf and Zelda also outdid expectations


well I'd also argue that Ganon and Bowser were riding high off of their Villains Contest performances and probably overperformed a decent bit

Bowser went from beating Ryu worse than Mega Man did to losing to him two years later
NeoElfboy 11/16/2018 9:12:51 PM#446
FinaIFantasy posted...
The thought that games don’t equal character is not always right anyway, but it’s blatantly incorrect with Crono. There is no character in this contest more intricately linked to his game strength than Crono. He has no other game, he is the absurd focal point of his game to the point they “share” a name.


Strongly disagree with this. I'd vote Chrono Trigger over almost everything, Crono not so much. He's one of seven playable characters in his game, has no dialog (I know, I know, Link doesn't either, but Crono's game is more dialog-driven). "Absurd focal point" is better used for characters like Mario and Mega Man who not just share the name of the game, but are often the sole playable character.

Characters like Mario, Link, Samus, and Mega Man also benefit from the fact that they're in multiple games. In the first few years of contests Chrono Trigger would have beaten any Mario game on the site, yet Mario beat Crono more often than not. Mega Man has been at worst comparable to Crono throughout contest history, but CT would clean MM2's clock. It's pretty obvious that Crono isn't as strong as his game. I would tend to think that stronger CT equates with a stronger Crono relatively, but considering that Crono had been on the bottom rung of the N9 for some time, all that does is get him back to being competitive with them.
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im317 11/16/2018 9:14:32 PM#447
so is there anything funny in the Bowser/Kriby match or did i just really misjudge it?
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I am not a republican.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/77206531


...Huh. Oh, right, I seem to remember being surprised by you being in favor of a Democrat back on election day.

I could've sworn you were pro-Trump, though. ...Then again, I can't blame you for being anti-Hillary; I found both candidates deplorable. But this is not the place for politics discussions so let's end this line of conversation.
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im317 posted...
so is there anything funny in the Bowser/Kriby match or did i just really misjudge it?


has anyone checked for Bowsette rallies on the hentai subreddits
LeonhartFour posted...
im317 posted...
so is there anything funny in the Bowser/Kriby match or did i just really misjudge it?


has anyone checked for Bowsette rallies on the hentai subreddits


Bowser has been winning since the start, there's no need for that.

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