Safer_777 11/16/2018 4:39:56 PM#251
@Yuri_LowelI Hey man Charizard is awesome! But it would be hilarious to see him beat Kirby!
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
Lopen 11/16/2018 4:40:24 PM#252
Zylothewolf posted...
1: We have already seen this match.

3: It's Nintendo VS Nintendo, stats will just confuse you. See Mario VS Samus in 2005.


These two points contradict themselves considering a stronger looking Bowser put up a lower percentage than the current one against a weaker looking Kirby. If anything the 2005 match suggests stats don't confuse us on this particular match
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tgs2 posted...
Ness really benefits from low votals and a small post-Undertale/LISA bump with those two games shining a bright light on Earthbound for the whole world. . Its not hard to see why Ness wins by that much. Fire Emblem was never worth too much. Smash is all Ike has going for him compared to Ness. To compare with another series character, Lucina at least has a tiny bump from FatesWakening being more well known compared to PoR/RD outside of the FE fandom. I am confident that Lucina > Ike 1v1 based on that alone even if it makes you raise an eyebrow.

1. There's no result to ever suggest that Earthbound benefits from small votals.
2. Lucina's 35% on Auron really isn't that great. These characters have all performed consistently better that in the past. Marth would do better than that and Phoenix already easily beat him.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
KamikazePotato posted...
PrinceOfKoopas posted...
If Red is cutting now, can Alucard lose the match?

No

...Good! :D
Advokaiser 11/16/2018 4:50:15 PM#255
Bowser really IS the villain here. I would normally call this a "choke" performance, but I mean, it's freaking Kirby! What other character can be more lovable than Kirby?!
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ZeldaTPLink 11/16/2018 4:51:31 PM#256
Advokaiser posted...
Bowser really IS the villain here. I would normally call this a "choke" performance, but I mean, it's freaking Kirby! What other character can be more lovable than Kirby?!


Bowser?
Yuri_LowelI 11/16/2018 4:51:38 PM#257
Safer_777 posted...
@Yuri_LowelI Hey man Charizard is awesome! But it would be hilarious to see him beat Kirby!


Charizard was awesome back in the day. I was rooting for him when he beat down bowser. But there’s no consistency. Might as well put blastoise in there to see what he can do.

I’m just saying pokemon entries seem random and “for their time” with these contests.

Charizard definitely got weaker. Next contest he’ll be struggling to beat the likes of Nathan drake.
Safer_777 11/16/2018 4:51:47 PM#258
So Charizard>Kirby?
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
ZeldaTPLink 11/16/2018 4:52:14 PM#259
But yeah I get it.

MaybeKirby really does benefit from sore thumb factor. When you see that pink thing in the poll you can't help but support it.

But against Bowser... the HIERARCHY happens.
KamikazePotato posted...
2. Lucina's 35% on Auron really isn't that great. These characters have all performed consistently better that in the past. Marth would do better than that and Phoenix already easily beat him.


I'd still call Lucina's performance an improvement from 2013 where she got 37.17% against Dracula (and then Dracula gets 32.33% on Sonic). She is clearly stronger than in 2013 when Fire Emblem: Awakening was only about 5 months old and not as many people have played the game. Lucina also got into Smash later on.
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Advokaiser 11/16/2018 4:53:42 PM#261
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Advokaiser posted...
Bowser really IS the villain here. I would normally call this a "choke" performance, but I mean, it's freaking Kirby! What other character can be more lovable than Kirby?!


Bowser?


I don't buy it. It's gotta be Bowsette or some weird stuff.
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I think that Kirby has always done better in multi-way polls, so something like a "sore thumb factor" seems reasonable.
ZeldaTPLink 11/16/2018 4:54:12 PM#263
Advokaiser posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Advokaiser posted...
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Bowser really IS the villain here. I would normally call this a "choke" performance, but I mean, it's freaking Kirby! What other character can be more lovable than Kirby?!


Bowser?


I don't buy it. It's gotta be Bowsette or some weird stuff.


It's the hierarchy man.
Janus5k 11/16/2018 4:54:23 PM#264
Bowser is pretty dang lovable though.
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Nanis23 11/16/2018 4:55:00 PM#265
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Charizard definitely got weaker. Next contest he’ll be struggling to beat the likes of Nathan drake.

You don't know that
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Yuri_LowelI 11/16/2018 4:55:13 PM#266
With bowser being supposedly as strong as ever does that mean mario will be stronger? Legit 2nd on the site?
snake_5036 11/16/2018 4:56:21 PM#267
Bowsette 100% has nothing to do with these results

she died two months ago due to oversaturation

Yuri_LowelI posted...
With bowser being supposedly as strong as ever does that mean mario will be stronger? Legit 2nd on the site?

With Super Mario Odyssey, this is a bet I would take.
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Yuri_LowelI 11/16/2018 4:56:32 PM#268
Nanis23 posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Charizard definitely got weaker. Next contest he’ll be struggling to beat the likes of Nathan drake.

You don't know that
Gen 8 can be amazing and bring back the faith in Gamefreak


Pokemon as a franchise is dead to me anyway. Until we get a fully open world Pokemon game that isn’t tailored towards children most of the time i won’t care for it.
Janus5k posted...
Bowser is pretty dang lovable though.

Like the moon over
the day my genius and brawn
are lost on these fools
~ Haiku

How can you not love this guy?
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Here's the real question to be asked:

Red. Over/under on Peach by the end of the match?
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Oh look, Bowser has the same exact lead on Kirby that he had in 2005. As I said, Kirby has had zero reason to close this gap.

As usual, @FlyingForever is a complete and total embarrassment. Good call on that Kirby blowout that were supposed to sig, champ. Owned you like a pimp.
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Lopen 11/16/2018 4:58:42 PM#272
UltimaterializerX posted...
Oh look, Bowser has the same exact lead on Kirby that he had in 2005. As I said, Kirby has had zero reason to close this gap.


It's actually pushing double
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What we're seeing here is the Bowsette boost on full display. Bowser underperformed against 2B because 2B reverse SFFed that boost. Without another hot girl in the poll, Bowser is much stronger. I don't think this will benefit Mario as much, though it may help a bit.
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Increase of 40+ in a match where Kirby was GUARANTEED a blowout win.
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I mean Bowser has been stronger than Kirby in every recorded xstat we have. We're surprised by this result I think because of what Kirby has done this contest but maybe we shouldn't be given all the past results we have

Bowser 2013 - 35.94
Kirby 2013 - 35.60

Bowser 2010 - 37.09
Kirby 2010 - 33.19

Bowser 2008 - 32.59
Kirby 2008 - 31.92

Bowser 2007 - 26.32
Kirby 2007 - 22.67

Bowser 2006 - 32.44
Kirby 2006 - 29.39

Bowser 2005 - 36.54
Kirby 2005 - 34.99

Bowser 2004 - 30.97
Kirby 2004 - 28.54

Bowser 2003 - 30.97
Kirby 2003 - 26.34
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Nanis23 11/16/2018 5:02:08 PM#276
UltimaterializerX posted...
Oh look, Bowser has the same exact lead on Kirby that he had in 2005. As I said, Kirby has had zero reason to close this gap.

As usual, @FlyingForever is a complete and total embarrassment. Good call on that Kirby blowout that were supposed to sig, champ. Owned you like a pimp.

As Arabic people would say it,
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To be fair, 2010 Bowser is super inflated due to being stuck behind Charizard's bandwagon.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Pokemon as a franchise is dead to me anyway. Until we get a fully open world Pokemon game that isn’t tailored towards children most of the time i won’t care for it.


Adding in difficulty settings would go a long way towards making a game that can also be tailored to adults who may already be veterans to the series.
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Alucard beat 2 Ninty and 2 Square characters in one contest. What a studly month for him.

Also, I feel this is now merely a "good" contest for Nintendo, not the unstoppable one that looked likely after the first two weeks.
So here is the question.

Does Kefka still beat Terra?

If so, Alucard might have a shot at the loser of Bowser/Crono.

KamikazePotato posted...
To be fair, 2010 Bowser is super inflated due to being stuck behind Charizard's bandwagon.


Spoilers Charizard's biggest overperformance that year was probably against Bowser.

Spoilers two those are adjusted.
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Nanis23 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Oh look, Bowser has the same exact lead on Kirby that he had in 2005. As I said, Kirby has had zero reason to close this gap.

As usual, @FlyingForever is a complete and total embarrassment. Good call on that Kirby blowout that were supposed to sig, champ. Owned you like a pimp.

As Arabic people would say it,
Khalas Ulti

LOL I just imagined my mom lecturing him
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Also, I feel this is now merely a "good" contest for Nintendo, not the unstoppable one that looked likely after the first two weeks.

Well, if you remove Alucard from the Division, Peach wins it.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
The icon boost is going to boost Link and Mario so much.
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RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :(
Charizard's biggest overperformance that year was 46% against Mario which is totally bananas. Bowser looked good that year but not nearly that good.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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brawl__08 11/16/2018 5:08:43 PM#285
Advokaiser posted...
What other character can be more lovable than Kirby?!


At least half of the characters who were even in the contest for starters.
Why is Yoshi just... such a clear step below what Bowser and Luigi have managed to do recently.

I'm guessing it's because he doesn't talk (you can't really put him in humorous situations like the other two) and maybe the Pokemon have usurped his lovable cutesy creature role.
Even if you go off raw xstats, 2010 Bowser is still above 2010 Kirby. Bowser 31.11 (Behind Charizard > Mario > Link), Kirby 28.24 (Behind Sonic > Link)
ShatteredElysium posted...
I mean Bowser has been stronger than Kirby in every recorded xstat we have. We're surprised by this result I think because of what Kirby has done this contest but maybe we shouldn't be given all the past results we have

Bowser 2013 - 35.94
Kirby 2013 - 35.60

Bowser 2010 - 37.09
Kirby 2010 - 33.19

Bowser 2008 - 32.59
Kirby 2008 - 31.92

Bowser 2007 - 26.32
Kirby 2007 - 22.67

Bowser 2006 - 32.44
Kirby 2006 - 29.39

Bowser 2005 - 36.54
Kirby 2005 - 34.99

Bowser 2004 - 30.97
Kirby 2004 - 28.54

Bowser 2003 - 30.97
Kirby 2003 - 26.34

This was a GUARANTEED Kirby win this year though. It was going to be IMMORTALIZED in signatures by by people whose only way of sleeping at night is their dreams of ‘defeating’ me — a THOROUGH ownage of Ulti.

And then Bowser won, in a SHOCKING upset. Only Claire Redfield beating the star of the second strongest JRPG series can compare!
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Khalas

Found salvation already. Doesn’t mean I can’t laugh at idiots whose entire life revolves around being literally obsessed with me.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Why is Yoshi just... such a clear step below what Bowser and Luigi have managed to do recently.

I'm guessing it's because he doesn't talk (you can't really put him in humorous situations like the other two) and maybe the Pokemon have usurped his lovable cutesy creature role.

Is he though? It still looks like he would easily beat Zero. Pikachu might do just as well on Bowser/Luigi (I think Yoshi is probably a little weaker than them, but yeah).
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Why is Yoshi just... such a clear step below what Bowser and Luigi have managed to do recently.

I'm guessing it's because he doesn't talk (you can't really put him in humorous situations like the other two) and maybe the Pokemon have usurped his lovable cutesy creature role.


his memes aren't as fun

Yoshi tax evasion just doesn't compare to Bowsette or Luigi getting murdered
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Lopen 11/16/2018 5:15:50 PM#293
Fun fact if Kirby moves the % in the other direction the same amount Bowser did in the positive direction on the so called "no reason to doubt this match result changing ever" match he wins.

Fun fact 2 the 2005 match was used as a deciding factor while people were lecturing on using 5 year old stats as being too dated

Fun fact 3 if you say no match result changes ever Bowser lost to Charizard in 2010 by more than Kirby lost to Bowser

I mean if Bowser wins he wins, good job, but none of the logic in picking him really strikes as consistent or valid to me.
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Bowser is going to end up getting like, 3% more on Kirby than he did in 2005.

I really don't understand Nintendo.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Advokaiser 11/16/2018 5:16:09 PM#295
brawl__08 posted...
Advokaiser posted...
What other character can be more lovable than Kirby?!


At least half of the characters who were even in the contest for starters.


By "lovable" I mostly mean "adorable". Sure, you can like a character for being cool or badass...

Wait... Kirby is also cool and badass.
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KamikazePotato posted...
Bowser is going to end up getting like, 3% more on Kirby than he did in 2005.

I really don't understand Nintendo.

It’s such a shocking result!
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Nanis23 posted...
Why did Leon think Alucard would have a problem with Peach


I mean she's clearly the second strongest character in this division
Lopen 11/16/2018 5:17:53 PM#298
UltimaterializerX posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Bowser is going to end up getting like, 3% more on Kirby than he did in 2005.

I really don't understand Nintendo.

It’s such a shocking result!


I'm curious if 2005 is set in stone why 2010 wasn't. Isn't Bowser > Charizard SUCH A SHOCKING RESULT?
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Alucard beat 2 Ninty and 2 Square characters in one contest. What a studly month for him.

Also, I feel this is now merely a "good" contest for Nintendo, not the unstoppable one that looked likely after the first two weeks.


I think Nintendo just does super well against weaker characters but when there's actual competition people become a little more 'honest' with their voting if I can call it that.
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SwiftyDC 11/16/2018 5:19:06 PM#300
Wow, Kirby is a fraud.
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