XIII_rocks 11/16/2018 11:01:24 AM#51
Yeah I just kept on looking through the topics during and around the Block win and the amount of negativity in the stats topic is really minimal. There definitely is some, but I wouldn't call it "split" in any way.

@charmander6000, I'm not saying L-Block was unanimously backed, but I think the stats topic shows a generally high level of amusement.

I was there in 2007 (I actually have a couple of embarrassing posts in topic 545) which according to you must mean I'm lying. But the archives appear to say otherwise.
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Safer_777 11/16/2018 11:02:37 AM#52
Also how this female Bowser thing started?
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
ExThaNemesis 11/16/2018 11:03:53 AM#53
XIII_rocks posted...
Yeah I just kept on looking through the topics during and around the Block win and the amount of negativity in the stats topic is really minimal. There definitely is some, but I wouldn't call it "split" in any way.

@charmander6000, I'm not saying L-Block was unanimously backed, but I think the stats topic shows a generally high level of amusement.

I was there in 2007 (I actually have a couple of embarrassing posts in topic 545) which according to you must mean I'm lying. But the archives appear to say otherwise.


I guess I just remember the vocal L-BLock opposition in the stats topic. The rest of the board was unanimously in L-Block's favor.

I also must have been working when the match started or something, because I have no posts in that stats topic :(
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swordz9 11/16/2018 11:04:48 AM#54
Safer_777 posted...
Also how this female Bowser thing started?

All started with that crown that turned Toadette into Peach Jr. and then the internet took off with Bowsette even though genderswapping characters into girls has existed for ages. I mean there’s literally a genderswapped Freddy Krueger figurine
Nanis23 11/16/2018 11:05:39 AM#55
Did you ever stop and think about how hilarious the concept of hentai rallies sound
Like, just stop and think about it for a moment

I don't understand how can anyone hate this
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Oh man, have we ascended to posting about hentai snobbism in the Stats Topic now? What a wild f***ing ride the last few days have been.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Also to talk about actual stats for a second, I'm very proud of Vivi here. He's up against Ganondorf in a year where Nintendo putting the hurt on people - and specifically in a post-BotW environment where Zelda is Noble Nine strength or something. And he's not folding in the slightest.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
ExThaNemesis 11/16/2018 11:11:36 AM#58
Nanis23 posted...
Did you ever stop and think about how hilarious the concept of hentai rallies sound
Like, just stop and think about it for a moment

I don't understand how can anyone hate this
This is a new page for Board 8 history


EXACTLY

It's so ludicrous that you have to laugh about it.
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heroicmario 11/16/2018 11:15:59 AM#59
KamikazePotato posted...
Also to talk about actual stats for a second, I'm very proud of Vivi here. He's up against Ganondorf in a year where Nintendo putting the hurt on people - and specifically in a post-BotW environment where Zelda is Noble Nine strength or something. And he's not folding in the slightest.

It’s impressive for ol’ Vivi, for sure. He’s much closer to Ganondorf than I would expected heading in, and it’s crazy to think where he might rank in the FF pantheon these days. The little guy has come a long way!

(I still do not like that he beat Mario so down with the mage)
squexa 11/16/2018 11:16:17 AM#60
Nanis23 posted...
Did you ever stop and think about how hilarious the concept of hentai rallies sound
Like, just stop and think about it for a moment

I don't understand how can anyone hate this
This is a new page for Board 8 history


Yeah, almost makes me wonder why nobody thought of this before. That dickgirl subreddit has about as many subscribers as the final fantasy one and that's just the dickgirl one.
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SuperNiceDog 11/16/2018 11:17:20 AM#61
heroicmario posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Also to talk about actual stats for a second, I'm very proud of Vivi here. He's up against Ganondorf in a year where Nintendo putting the hurt on people - and specifically in a post-BotW environment where Zelda is Noble Nine strength or something. And he's not folding in the slightest.

It’s impressive for ol’ Vivi, for sure. He’s much closer to Ganondorf than I would expected heading in, and it’s crazy to think where he might rank in the FF pantheon these days. The little guy has come a long way!

(I still do not like that he beat Mario so down with the mage)


I'm pretty happy with how Vivi's doing today too. He's validated his 2013 performance somewhat
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_Dog_ 11/16/2018 11:19:37 AM#62
I once again ask, how would you all react if Tifa won the entire contest due to outside rallies?
The Big Problem with the Pokemon anime:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/217-pokemon/75265633
Well if we're talking hentai rallies, there are still some candidates. Tifa, Zelda, Aerith, Samus obviously, but also Bowser for that Bowsette thing and even Sonic in a furry sub (Look what happened to Tails when the rally got going).
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swordz9 11/16/2018 11:22:01 AM#65
_Dog_ posted...
I once again ask, how would you all react if Tifa won the entire contest due to outside rallies?

Fine with the rallies, but I’d be happier if it was for a good character. As long as it’s not LoZ I’m fine with basically anything.
ExThaNemesis posted...
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Cloud is making up ground on Link here...
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You see where yoblazer's priorities were

Good job, young me!
_Dog_ posted...
I once again ask, how would you all react if Tifa won the entire contest due to outside rallies?

I'd personally be less pissed off by a rally winning the contest if it's an entrant i'd at least heard of before the bracket released.
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XIII_rocks posted...
Yeah I just kept on looking through the topics during and around the Block win and the amount of negativity in the stats topic is really minimal. There definitely is some, but I wouldn't call it "split" in any way.

@charmander6000, I'm not saying L-Block was unanimously backed, but I think the stats topic shows a generally high level of amusement.

I was there in 2007 (I actually have a couple of embarrassing posts in topic 545) which according to you must mean I'm lying. But the archives appear to say otherwise.


there's more to the board than just the stats topic. i don't think the guy who made that infamous "why did quiet lose to kos-mos" topic awhile ago ever posted in the stats topic, for instance.

i believe the response to l-block wasn't that bad but yeah, just saying the evidence you're presenting isn't too strong.
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ExThaNemesis 11/16/2018 11:31:01 AM#69
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Good job, young me!


I love that while everyone is screaming about L-Block, you were still there fretting about whether Cloud could dare to catch up to Link.
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ExThaNemesis 11/16/2018 11:32:26 AM#70
_Dog_ posted...
I once again ask, how would you all react if Tifa won the entire contest due to outside rallies?


I would be pretty upset because there's a clear difference between a rally just carrying her over the line in an already winnable match, and her beating characters she normally has no chance against.
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Safer_777 11/16/2018 11:33:18 AM#71
It would be awesome if Tifa won. But you would have to rally every hentai/videogame porn site that exists in order for her to win.
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
ZeldaTPLink 11/16/2018 11:33:56 AM#72
_Dog_ posted...
I once again ask, how would you all react if Tifa won the entire contest due to outside rallies?


It would suck, but it's not happening. She barely beat MMX.
ExThaNemesis 11/16/2018 11:35:48 AM#73
You know what

Maybe we should see just what extent we can get to with these porn rallies?

I mean, her match with Luigi is already gonna be close.
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ZeldaTPLink 11/16/2018 11:35:59 AM#74
That said I could see her using Hentai Factor to beat Luigi.

But yeah she crashes against Samus. An attempt to rally against Samus using boobs may backfire.

Actually I wanna see that. Battle of the Waifus.
Real talk, though: This contest has shown that we really need that all fictional characters contest we've been talking about for so long. I know during the nominations phase for this contest we were trying to figure out how to go about nominating iconic comic book characters and the like, but weren't sure if Allen would even accept them.

But it's quite clear that having origins in another form of media wasn't a disqualifying factor. We've had video-game originating characters from licensed games before (hi, Walking Dead), but Geralt of Rivia is not that. He's been the main character of The Witcher since it debuted as a short story in 1986, the same year that The Legend of Zelda was released on the Famicom Disk System. And this licensed game character has made it to Round 4. Not over overwhelming competition, but nevertheless, there he is.

It was suggested that perhaps any character that's been in a video game should be eligible. Maybe so, but given the number of awful licensed games out there, some form of quality control is needed. So let's start slow: any character that originated in a game or has been in a game that has made a Games Contest is eligible-- which wouldn't have disqualified Geralt since Witcher 3 was in the 2015 contest. (Have to specify that characters originating in games are automatically eligible because Games Contests aren't as frequent as Character Battles).

Who would that open things up to? Well, a lot of Marvel characters, for starters. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 was in GotD. DC, perhaps not quite as many, but at least there's Batman, courtesy of the Arkham games which weren't exactly fodder. And while it's probably in part the result of CJayC's wacky nomination system, the Simpsons arcade game made the field in 2004. So you've got Simpsons characters. Anyone I'm forgetting? Oh, right, Disney. If being someone that gamers would know from their games is important, as has been theorized, I'd have to imagine that the non-Square half of Kingdom Hearts wouldn't be at a huge disadvantage compared to the Square half. And we've been talking about icon boosts; they don't get much more iconic than Mickey Mouse.

Let's do this. Real character battle.
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Team Rocket Elite 11/16/2018 11:36:38 AM#76
ExThaNemesis posted...
_Dog_ posted...
I once again ask, how would you all react if Tifa won the entire contest due to outside rallies?


I would be pretty upset because there's a clear difference between a rally just carrying her over the line in an already winnable match, and her beating characters she normally has no chance against.


Just to check where you stand, you would be okay with Tifa losing to Samus then eliminating Sephiroth?
This was not the best year for my bracket.
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XIII_rocks 11/16/2018 11:37:17 AM#77
Mr Lasastryke posted...
there's more to the board than just the stats topic. i don't think the guy who made that infamous "why did quiet lose to kos-mos" topic awhile ago ever posted in the stats topic, for instance.

i believe the response to l-block wasn't that bad but yeah, just saying the evidence you're presenting isn't too strong.


Well it's the only evidence we have, and it's the topic board 8 regulars (hence, "the board" charmander referred to) are most likely to be drawn towards.

Right now it's just a bunch of memories and one piece of evidence.

I will say though that the whole save_us.rat thing was very popular in 2008, so obviously by the time the contest was over people began to sour on it a bit. But at the time? General positivity, it seems
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snake_5036 11/16/2018 11:38:03 AM#78
Safer_777 posted...
Also how this female Bowser thing started?

https://twitter.com/ayyk92/status/1042465252221181954

Here's the original comic. And then everybody turned Bowser into an extremely sexually aggressive waifu with big gazongas after that.
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ExThaNemesis 11/16/2018 11:38:44 AM#79
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Just to check where you stand, you would be okay with Tifa losing to Samus then eliminating Sephiroth?


I have Ryu eliminating Sephiroth already so yes that would get me points in my bracket.
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Supporting Pikachu to overthrow L-Block was such a Faustian choice. Just look at the front page today and see what havoc our hubris has wrought.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
snake_5036 posted...
Safer_777 posted...
Also how this female Bowser thing started?

https://twitter.com/ayyk92/status/1042465252221181954

Here's the original comic. And then everybody turned Bowser into an extremely sexually aggressive waifu with big gazongas after that.

Best part of all that was his reaction to the phenomenon:

https://twitter.com/ayyk92/status/1043855759904202752
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
SuperNiceDog posted...
heroicmario posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
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Also to talk about actual stats for a second, I'm very proud of Vivi here. He's up against Ganondorf in a year where Nintendo putting the hurt on people - and specifically in a post-BotW environment where Zelda is Noble Nine strength or something. And he's not folding in the slightest.

It’s impressive for ol’ Vivi, for sure. He’s much closer to Ganondorf than I would expected heading in, and it’s crazy to think where he might rank in the FF pantheon these days. The little guy has come a long way!

(I still do not like that he beat Mario so down with the mage)


I'm pretty happy with how Vivi's doing today too. He's validated his 2013 performance somewhat


Discounting rallies, more or less. Unless you were an idiot like me and picked Vivi to win the division (which was due to Vivi destroying Ganon when they met in the last contest - yes, due admittedly to Mario's presence, but still! Also because I forgot about Breath of the Wild when making my picks), he has done very well this contest.

And keep in mind people weren't sure if he would get past Leon, which was fairly reasonable since Vivi has lost to Leon in the past and I guess 2013 could be taken as an aberration...and yet direct extrapolation has Vivi breaking 60% on him!

Speaking of 2013 though, maybe fanbase overlap leech (or what you guys call LFF) was a serious problem that contest, given how well Terra did against Kirby and other results like Pikachu and Blue taking advantage of LFF. Of course, this makes Sora look all the worse, but maybe Pokémon just behaves differently.

Not particularly on-topic, but Final Fantasy VIII vs. Super Mario Galaxy who wins?
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Nanis23 11/16/2018 11:48:44 AM#83
I still don't understand why people thought Chun Lee was supposed to be weak
She is no Ryu, but she is a very popular SF character

LinkMarioSamus posted...
Not particularly on-topic, but Final Fantasy VIII vs. Super Mario Galaxy who wins?

I hope that one day you will provide an explanation for those random questions and reveal you had a secret project all along that made you win the next GOTD contest or something
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We assumed Chun-Li was weak because none of her past contest performances have been very inspiring at all. Then again the last two times we saw her before this contest she was getting pounded by FF girls and her only match prior to this contest against a male character was her loss to steroid Bowser in '05.
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Team Rocket Elite 11/16/2018 11:56:20 AM#85
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2080-dream-division-round-1-bowser-vs-chun-li
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2550-aeon-division-final-yuna-vs-chun-li
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7303-division-1-round-2-chun-li-vs-ganondorf

That's a massive boost and Ryu didn't really change much over the same period of time.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2080-dream-division-round-1-bowser-vs-chun-li
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2550-aeon-division-final-yuna-vs-chun-li
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7303-division-1-round-2-chun-li-vs-ganondorf

That's a massive boost and Ryu didn't really change much over the same period of time.

The 2005 result is actually pretty good considering how ridiculous Bowser was that year.

Ryu (2005c) has a strength of 29.98 against Base Link.
Chun Li (2005c) has a strength of 24.92 against Base Link.

Ryu58.44%55,657
Chun Li41.56%39,582
TOTAL VOTES95,239
Ryu wins with 58.44% of the vote!


The Female Bracket and the Tifa match did make her look a lot worse than that but I think both are fairly suspect.
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/16/2018 12:14:40 PM#87
XIII_rocks posted...
Yeah I just kept on looking through the topics during and around the Block win and the amount of negativity in the stats topic is really minimal. There definitely is some, but I wouldn't call it "split" in any way.

@charmander6000, I'm not saying L-Block was unanimously backed, but I think the stats topic shows a generally high level of amusement.

I was there in 2007 (I actually have a couple of embarrassing posts in topic 545) which according to you must mean I'm lying. But the archives appear to say otherwise.

L Block wasn't a rally. It was a home grown movement among GameFAQs users to vote for a hilarious joke character. Ditto for WCC in the next contest.
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lol xstats
So we all rallying for Bowsette on hentai sites next match right?!
Team Rocket Elite 11/16/2018 12:20:07 PM#89
IIRC Vote For The Worst rallied for L-Block in 2007.

Edit: Found evidence of it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071104233504/http://www.votefortheworst.com:80/20071101/vote_l_block_best_videogamecharacter_ever
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
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People weren't pissed at the L-block rally. People generally liked it. Someone even made an L-block facebook page and friended a load of B8'ers and it had over 100 friends. Pretty sure that is still the only B8er I have on my friends list.
Safer_777 11/16/2018 12:25:55 PM#91
@Team_Rocket_Elite You actually found this thing? Damn!
So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing?
People were completely on board with L-Block, with notable exceptions, until the last two matches, IIRC.
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Team Rocket Elite 11/16/2018 1:06:48 PM#93
Keep in mind that even as late as Undertale's rally we thought large rallies could be beaten. L-Block's run was a full 8 years before that.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
davidponte 11/16/2018 1:07:57 PM#94
Bowsette always seemed closer to Peach than to Bowser to me. I feel like the Bowsette fans don't really care about regular Bowser.

That opinion is in no way influenced by me having Kirby to win that match and needing a Kirby win to stay alive in the guru.
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Assuming a constant Ganondorf, Vivi and Mario from 2013, introducing Mario to this poll would cause him to take away 14.22% of Vivi's votes and 66.01% of Ganondorf's votes.

Therefore, using Mario's 41.09% in 2013,

34.24% of voters think Mario > Ganon > Vivi
6.85% of voters think Mario > Vivi > Ganon

We can estimate that 34.24%/41.09% = 5 in 6 Mario voters in 2013 prefer Ganondorf to Vivi. That is some serious overlap.

In other words, LFF exists. Big surprise there.
If all else fails use fire.
I don’t get these people who think you can only be some sort of pro-rally or anti-rally purist, and actual understanding of context is not allowed.

Reeks of dogmatic religious zealotry to me. Heresy shall not be tolerated...! We must be rally purists of some kind!

XIII_rocks posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
Yeah I would just like to say, I am not an anti-rallying stalwart by any means, but I did express some frustration with certain users in the last topic - this was aimed largely at ExTha, I'm not going to lie. The man has been excoriating rallies in general all contest, and when it comes to a result he wants he's rallying himself. I am not with BT in the firm anti-rally camp by any means, but ExTha was being ridiculous.


Well jesus

Of course ExTha is a flaming hypocrite with no honour. Everybody knows that. But ExTha is not "the board".

Anyone who says that the board liked the L-Block rally in 2007 is a liar or wasn't there.


I disagree. How are you establishing consensus here? My memories of it are mostly of a kind of positive, flabbergasted amusement.

There was definitely dissent (Vlado liking it probably didn't help) but I would say L-Block was somewhat enjoyed by the majority of the board.

I disagree with charmander.

The board was quite pro L-Block early, then it got more mixed later.

I myself was pro L-Block early, then flipped after I realized it could actually win the contest. But I wasn’t nearly as annoyed by the block as with Draven or Undertale.

Thing is that L-Block was a site regular thing. It was our demand for it that got a non-character to be let in. Draven and Undertale were wholly external to the site.

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Lopen 11/16/2018 1:27:21 PM#97
L-Block was fun largely because you felt it could be beaten. It only had the completely crushing round in the final

No one who wasn't delusional thought Draven was losing after Round 2, and no one who paid any attention to Draven thought Undertale would lose after Round 1
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
Yeah I just kept on looking through the topics during and around the Block win and the amount of negativity in the stats topic is really minimal. There definitely is some, but I wouldn't call it "split" in any way.

@charmander6000, I'm not saying L-Block was unanimously backed, but I think the stats topic shows a generally high level of amusement.

I was there in 2007 (I actually have a couple of embarrassing posts in topic 545) which according to you must mean I'm lying. But the archives appear to say otherwise.

L Block wasn't a rally. It was a home grown movement among GameFAQs users to vote for a hilarious joke character. Ditto for WCC in the next contest.

Both of these “joke characters” have more personality than Link
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Ytterbicide 11/16/2018 1:47:21 PM#99
Lopen posted...
and no one who paid any attention to Draven thought Undertale would lose after Round 1


Round 2

There was still a lot of resistance against Undertale beating Fallout 3, which did really well in 2010
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snake_5036 11/16/2018 1:51:23 PM#100
there was also literally pokemon in undertale's way
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