Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1302 GameFAQs Contests

Zelda's held 64% for like three hours. I haven't followed trends at all, but is Squall really going to put in that much work in what people are calling a trend-less year?

Now before you say blah blah x stats Phoenix Wright blah blah Squall consider Squall only got 64% on Garrus. You know, the guy who plays second fiddle to the guy who got driven into the earth by Ryu

Squall vs Phoenix Wright probably ain't as far off as you think

Wanglicious posted...

also while everyone is gushing over Zelda, worth noting is that Auron looks pretty good.
way better than Tidus or Yuna did weirdly.

Yuna is projected to give Kefka the fight of his life, and Tidus was redeemed the moment that DK effortlessly rolled over Leon. FFX has held up well this year, all things considered - Yuna and Tidus just ran into opponents designed to make them look bad.

Like every year.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

This might be the strongest Zelda we'll ever see. She really doesn't need to drum up this power against Aeris next round, but man, what a sight to behold.

I think this is the most surprising result so far for me. When I voted I did not expect to see Zelda putting a trouncing on Squall so bad it makes her look like the elite of the elite. It's crazy, but pretty awesome to see at the same time.

You also have Fox McCloud out here making Aeris sweat, so maybe Final Fantasy has just kind of run dry or something.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Zelda's held 64% for like three hours. I haven't followed trends at all, but is Squall really going to put in that much work in what people are calling a trend-less year?

Squall has gained over 1% after the first few hours in all his matches and neither have been as frontloaded as you'd expect from Zelda. He probably doesn't finish below 38% here.

For the record, extrapolating Zelda through Ramza (who seems to be pretty stable from 2013) puts her up there at like, Mega Man level strength. This result cannot be overstated.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/a24488851/henry-cavill-long-hair-witcher-netflix/

It's a crime this picture wasn't used.

Maybe the ape was made to overperform on Tidus with that pic (and Tidus didn't have a good pic, to be fair), but there's no way Alucard would have wrecked Yuna like that in any contest before. They shared a 4way before and she ate his lunch.

KamikazePotato posted...

For the record, extrapolating Zelda through Ramza (who seems to be pretty stable from 2013) puts her up there at like, Mega Man level strength. This result cannot be overstated.

I am down for this, and this is also basically what I was thinking. Like, it *looks* like a Noble Nine level performance by all reasonable metrics. Maybe Squall has dropped off, because 64% on Garrus does seem kinda... oof, but I find this so much more impressive than 68% on Phoenix Wright all the same.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

(and Tidus didn't have a good pic, to be fair)

It's Tidus, man. He doesn't have good pics.

Lopen posted...

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Zelda's held 64% for like three hours. I haven't followed trends at all, but is Squall really going to put in that much work in what people are calling a trend-less year?

Squall has gained over 1% after the first few hours in all his matches and neither have been as frontloaded as you'd expect from Zelda. He probably doesn't finish below 38% here.

The difference is that Squall actually got the board/bracket vote this time, so I don't know. I could see Zelda maintaining 63-64%.

squexa posted...

The difference is that Squall actually got the board/bracket vote this time

The effect of that is basically gone after the first hour unless you're Phoenix Wright levels of dominant with it

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7329-division-7-round-2-ocelot-vs-mega-man-x
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7319-division-5-round-2-the-boss-vs-zelda

How much does Ocelot get on The Boss these days? The Boss is normally a lot weaker, right?

The Boss looked a little stronger in 2013, actually. Went even with Sub-Zero.

The Boss looked stronger in 2013, for what it's worth.

Edit: Ninja'd.

Yeah, Boss may have started out weaker (and it was never by much), but I'd say they're about even now. MGS3 seems to have really aged the best in that series, and she was a big reason why.

And yes, if Boss = Ocelot, it's another feather in Zelda's cap.

How strong is X supposed to be, anyway? Is he more or less Mega Man's equal, or does he fall into that group right outside the N9?

heroicmario posted...

How strong is X supposed to be, anyway? Is he more or less Mega Man's equal, or does he fall into that group right outside the N9?

That's one of my favorite things to endlessly argue about! Before Mega Man Classic was put in Smash (and was clearly distinguished from X in that game), I was first aboard the X > Classic train. Even now, I wouldn't be too surprised to see that happen, and I'd probably still take X over Sonic.

We never really have a good read on Mega Man X. I'm of the opinion that he is probably not too far off Mega Man in strength. In this contest, Zelda looks as strong a Mega Man and Mega Man X looks as strong as Zelda.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3733-hyrule-division-round-1-john-price-vs-mega-man-x

wait what the f*** is this, how is this not 85/15

When Tifa beats MMX tomorrow, it'll make Zelda look even better.

It's no surprise that Boss looked better than Ocelot in contests where he had MGSV pics.

Captain John Price

The legend

With the Zelda = Mega Man = X in mind, how do we expect Zelda to fare against ... Crono, right? Where are we all at on that one?

Mega Man X was worth 62% on Ocelot that year too LOL

Tifa about to expose another fraud

Where was Whiskey Nick to whine about how Captain John Price was being confused with John Price anyway

I'm of the opinion that Crono rebounds big time. Magus had his best match since 2005, Frog looked solid, and CT looked like a worldbeater in 2015.

heroicmario posted...

With the Zelda = Mega Man = X in mind, how do we expect Zelda to fare against ... Crono, right? Where are we all at on that one?

She'll be up against Snake (not Crono) just a day or two after Link is unleashed... so if she's functioning as a Link proxy now (who knows), she shouldn't be then, and I think Snake will take it comfortably.

If that's the case though, she'll beat Auron in losers and then probably face Sonic. I guess that's her opportunity to cause havoc, but I don't think that'll happen either.

I've seen some people talking about Crono being, like, #3 on the site these days. It's been so long since I have been around contest discussion that I don't even know where anyone really is these days, haha. So, I'm guessing Zelda has no shot of pulling anything crazy there then.

Oh, Snake, yeah, I don't have much faith in her being able to beat Snake (the middle aged man factor!!). Doubly so after Link puts up whatever banana party numbers he's bound to do after everyone finally gets the chance to vote for him the first time.

I honestly think the Noble 9 is wide open apart from Link at #1.

Snake has the "EVERYONE IS HERE" factor

nobody benefits from Smash hype more than Snake...again

party like it's 2006

I think Mario is going to be the clear #2 at the end of this, especially as the final days of this contest are in the immediate post-Smash period. No one else will be able to pull rank on him.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3733-hyrule-division-round-1-john-price-vs-mega-man-x

wait what the f*** is this, how is this not 85/15

Not a NN level performance, that's for sure...!

That's what it feels like to me. Outside of Link, are we really confident in where *anyone* ranks? It feels more debatable than it maybe ever has been before. I feel like anyone could be at the bottom at this point. I'm still recovering from Mario losing to Vivi.

I wonder about ol' Snake. Are people still super hyped about his (re)inclusion in Smash Bros.? Does he still hold up when everyone else in his series is tanking left and right? Did Ridley and K. Rool upstage his return? Who is to say these days?

As for today, it looks like Geralt is slowly faltering. I should be thrilled cuz my girl is making it to the division finals and may look good against Auron... but I guess I truly am bracket > all.

heroicmario posted...

Are people still super hyped about his (re)inclusion in Smash Bros.?

They saved "EVERYONE IS HERE" for Snake's introduction for a reason

Yesterday's X-Stats:

Division 3

Pokemon Trainer Red – 50.00%
Sora – 49.10%
Big Boss – 47.82%
Crash Bandicoot – 45.08%
Ridley – 41.45%
Cecil Harvey – 41.31%
Ryo Hazuki – 30.36%
Neptune – 24.68%

Alucard – 50.00%
Princess Peach – 43.19%
Kefka – 40.56%
Yuna – 40.38%
Bomberman – 32.59%
L-Block – 32.29%
Kazuma Kiryu – 25.50%
Godot – 22.16%

Division 4

Bowser – 50.00%
Charizard – 43.45%
2B – 41.81%
Terra Branford – 41.02%
Ness – 38.70%
Shadow the Hedgehog – 36.17%
Gordon Freeman – 22.61%
Cayde-6 – 18.56%

Kirby – 50.00%
Phoenix Wright – 31.69%
Ike – 31.27%
Isaac – 29.71%
Chris Redfield – 27.30%
Guile – 25.46%
Joel – 23.56%
Estelle Bright – 21.02%

Hot takez

Link
Sonic the Hedgehog
Cloud
Mario
Samus
Sephiroth
Mega Man
Kirby
Solid Snake

Your new noble nine

Mario is also coming off Super Mario Odyssey and Nintendo in general being more popular. Compound that with MGS looking a bit off, I expect Mario to be the big favourite over Snake in the Second Chance bracket.

I guess I'm just projecting my own ambivalence toward that moment, haha. I didn't like how Snake played in Brawl, so his return in this was more like "well, it's nice to check the box of having everyone." I'm curious to see how he does these days.

Lopen what is Sonic doing at #2 explain yourself

LordoftheMorons posted...

CaptainOfCrush posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3733-hyrule-division-round-1-john-price-vs-mega-man-x

wait what the f*** is this, how is this not 85/15

Not a NN level performance, that's for sure...!

Call of Duty had some respect back then.

5 minute X-Stats:

Division 5

Zelda – 50.00%
Squall Leonhart – 41.04%
Garrus Vakarian – 29.53%
The Boss – 29.30%
Ramza Beoulve – 29.16%
Metal Sonic – 25.48%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze – 24.67%
Hat Kid – 19.80%

Aerith Gainsborough – 50.00%
Fox McCloud – 46.07%
Waluigi – 42.57%
Jill Valentine – 42.29%
Captain Toad – 40.01%
Shovel Knight – 37.95%
D. Va – 26.24%
Aloy – 24.70%

Division 6

Geralt – 50.00%
Bayonetta – 49.91%
Pac-Man – 47.84%
Simon Belmont – 47.81%
Ryu Hayabusa – 47.06%
Rosalina – 43.97%
Riku – 35.54%
Sans – 27.39%

Auron – 50.00%
Vincent Valentine – 44.20%
Magus – 42.53%
Sub-Zero – 41.01%
Lucina – 34.56%
Shulk – 30.70%
Claire Redfield – 27.67%
Joker/Ren Amamiya – 26.59%

Sonic Mania boost bro you saw Tails and Knuckles

heroicmario posted...

Outside of Link, are we really confident in where *anyone* ranks?

I'm not, not really.

Sonic - still lower tier. That's my most confident prediction.

Crono - would be pegged for lower echelon, but CT looked so beastly in 2015 that most people are waiting to see what its protagonist will do.

Mega Man - got Smash since the last contest. Anyone who's confident to peg him now is braver than me.

Cloud & Seph - obviously were beasts in days gone by, but now it's uncertain where they rank and how far they've fallen.

Samus - Ms. Consistency has gone over a decade without a well received console game. It HAS to take a toll on even her eventually.

Mario - looked like garbage in 2013 and has been used less as the franchise guy for Nintendo. Wouldn't be surprised if he's dropped.

Snake - looked VERY strong in 2013, even before getting Draven counter-rallied. However, MGS5 was poorly received here, and other MGS characters don't look too hot. I think he's immune but am not sure.

Honestly, the one guy who has most likely grown in strength is Link... and now I understand why people are upset.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Mario - looked like garbage in 2013 and has been used less as the franchise guy for Nintendo

Used less as the franchise guy for Nintendo? What? Mario Odyssey and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe are two of the biggest games on the Switch, and he's been right at the forefront of every Smash trailer. And did you see how angry he was in the Pirahna Plant reveal?

Seriously though I don't buy Sonic Mania but entrants that resemble the creatures of the earth are doing well across the board. Sonic is going to surprise us I think. Maybe not #2 but may as well go big.

Cloud also now has Smash to back him up.

what, mario's been used plenty as a franchise guy. the switch had countless Odyssey vs BOTW questions, nevermind all the Mario spinoffs that have recently come out that all seem to be well received. he even managed to make a Rabbids game good.

Fun with Numbers, Divisions 3 and 4 Editions!

If Red = Alucard:
Sora gets 56.02% on Peach
Big Boss gets 57.59% on Kefka
Crash gets 55.21% on Yuna
Ridley gets 60.69% on Bomberman
L-Block gets 52.99% on Ryo Hazuki

(Cecil > Kefka/Yuna alone means Red is probably boned)

If Bowser = Kirby:
Charizard gets 63.53% on Phoenix
Ness gets 59.60% on Ike
2B gets 64.47% on Isaac
Shadow gets 62.26% on Chris Redfield
Joel gets 52.02% on Gordon
Estelle gets 55.85% on Cayde-6