Nanis23 11/11/2018 10:39:35 AM#301
Just think how much DK boosted that we are seriously considering him over Vivi...

And I don't believe in Pikachu. f*** PokeFEAR, after Charizard and Mewtwo I don't believe them doing anything worthwhile against a major character
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There were three Golden Sun games?
Character Battle X
Current Score: 96/120 Hmm, so that's it.
yep
the 3rd one was quite a bit removed from the first two though and people didn't like it as much
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Nanis23 11/11/2018 10:59:31 AM#304
The Owner of FF9 posted...
There were three Golden Sun games?

We don't talk about Dark Dawn

Well besides the reveal
It wasn't anything special but hearing Reggie mentioning the name "Golden Sun" which was immediately followed by a theme that is very fitting to be a Golden Sun theme, it really got to me
One of the more excited I have been about a game related reveal, alongside Mega Man in Smash and Twilight Princess

https://youtu.be/ggFaBWkXNP8?t=2037

Too bad the game sucked lololololol
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Safer_777 11/11/2018 11:20:37 AM#305
Wonder if Sephiroth can finish with above 65%.
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/2018 11:30:02 AM#306
Are we ready to start talking about the possibility of Ryu > Sephiroth yet? I'm not sure I'm feeling it, but if you assume that K Rool and Falcon are close to eachother on the 's*** tier Smash character' list, I have to think it's possible. Certainly the gap between K Rool and Falcon can't be much bigger than what would be required for Ryu to win there? I still think Seph takes it, but I can't see him getting more than 52% there.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
but if you assume that K Rool and Falcon are close to eachother

That's quite the assumption. Also, the conversation would be more worth having if Seph was dropping the ball. Instead, he's looked good.
paulg235 11/11/2018 11:37:57 AM#308
I wouldn't at all assume K.Rool and Falcon are close to each other because Falcon would roll over K.Rool if they ever met.

Ryu>Sephiroth is a dumb upset pick that feels as if some are arguing for it because they're desperate to see Sephy fall before the Legends bracket. The fact that Tifa easily beat Mewtwo and Vincent still did respectively against Auron should make it obvious that outside of the first 10 minutes Seph's easily winning and the question should be whether Ryu breaks 40% by the end of it.
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davidponte 11/11/2018 11:38:04 AM#309
I do not assume that K Rool and Falcon are close to each other
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/2018 11:41:23 AM#310
I agree that CF would Smash K Rool directly, but their actual stat value can't be more than 5% off from eachother. Do you really think Seph would be breaking 75% on K Rool? Because that's what he would be needing to do to comfortably beat Ryu
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snake_5036 11/11/2018 11:41:30 AM#311
The Owner of FF9 posted...
There were three Golden Sun games?

pretend the third one doesn't exist

you can just assume that Alex got grinded into tiny little meat chunks after the ending and nobody evil showed up to abuse alchemy and no psynergy black holes showed up if you do that. no need for a sequel when you look at it that way
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/2018 11:42:16 AM#312
Let me ask another question, who wins between Wesker and K Rool? If Wesker, by how much?
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The_Ctes 11/11/2018 11:42:35 AM#313
It's not happening

Falcon is definitely not in the "s*** tier Smash character list". He crushed Diddy in the past. Beat Riku in a day match back when he wasn't trash and came incredible close to upsetting Alucard last time. You're giving King K. Rool too much credit, it's most certainly just Shepard being ass this year.
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Well, Ryu's first two performances, taken without any adjustments, suggest that Shepard is barely stronger than Lloyd Irving. This is after he beat Aeris in the last contest. There's more evidence to suggest Shepard's fallen off hard than there is to suggest Ryu's gone beast mode.
Team Rocket Elite 11/11/2018 11:46:42 AM#315
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3258-division-4-round-1-alucard-falcon-diddy-kratos-a

Falcon has a win against post-SSBB Diddy. K. Rool being stronger than Diddy is a pretty questionably claim.
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Another tidbit: Shepard almost doubled Captain Olimar in his first match ever, and that was while he had a (probably hampering, unfortunately) FemShep pic. I don't think Olimar is stronger than K. Rool, but going from doubling one Nintendo weakling to barely beating another is a steep decline.

I'd still be willing to entertain this upset IF Seph was s***ting the bed, but we've seen nothing of the sort. 65% on Captain Falcon is very much a Noble 9 performance, and Ryu's never been near that level.
Maybe FFVII took back the strength Pokémon borrowed in 2013.
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heroicmario 11/11/2018 12:26:46 PM#318
Would anyone really take Shepard over Captain Falcon? I wouldn't even give that match a passing glance. That suggests to me that Sephiroth shouldn’t have *that* much trouble beating Ryu, even if it would be exciting to see.
BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/2018 12:30:02 PM#319
heroicmario posted...
Would anyone really take Shepard over Captain Falcon? I wouldn't even give that match a passing glance. That suggests to me that Sephiroth shouldn’t have *that* much trouble beating Ryu, even if it would be exciting to see.


Captain Falcon (2013c) VS Commander Shepard (2013c)

Captain Falcon has a strength of 28.41.
Commander Shepard has a strength of 31.76.

Commander Shepard wins with 55.27% of the vote!
A win of 5,692 with 53,960 total votes cast.

Even if you account for a Shep drop, there's no way he dropped THAT much to make this completely out of reach for Ryu
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heroicmario 11/11/2018 12:34:17 PM#320
Really? You don’t think he could have dropped that much in 5 years? I mean, Mass Effect is practically a dead series these days, just totally out of the public consciousness. I wouldn’t find that unusual. Then you couple that with Smash hype being at its peak... I dunno, I just wouldn’t have hard time picking Falcon to cruise in that match. Maybe I’m off base!
Team Rocket Elite 11/11/2018 12:36:37 PM#321
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7332-division-8-round-2-ryu-vs-shepard
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7298-division-8-round-1-ryu-vs-lloyd

Through Ryu, Shepard is currently projected to get 52.77% on Lloyd Irving.

In 2013...

Commander Shepard (2013c) VS Lloyd Irving (2013c)

Commander Shepard has a strength of 31.76.
Lloyd Irving has a strength of 24.67.

Commander Shepard wins with 61.16% of the vote!
A win of 12,046 with 53,960 total votes cast.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/2018 12:41:08 PM#322
Fair enough I suppose. Personally, I would expect obscure Fails characters to do even better with lower votals (like that new one whose name I've already forgotten). But I guess Occam's Razor would shoot down this upset, too many assumptions rather than the simplest explanation.
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Mac Arrowny 11/11/2018 1:21:20 PM#323
What does Falcon get on K Rool assuming Seph gets 54% on Ryu?
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
I agree that CF would Smash K Rool directly, but their actual stat value can't be more than 5% off from eachother.


It absolutely can. Captain Falcon's better than you think.
Is it possible that Shepard is currently weaker than Garrus? I could imagine Shepard being strongly affected by ME3/Andromeda backlash and Garrus only being weakly affected or something.
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Well, Shepard is the face of Mass Effect more than anyone, so if there is some concerted effort by a subset of the voters to anti-vote it, he would certainly suffer from it more than Garrus, I'd imagine.

Dunno if it'd be enough to drive him below Garrus but now I kinda have to hope it is...!
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Garrus>Shepard wouldn't surprise me *too* much. At least not indirectly. Shepard is the face of his series. Even if he wasn't in Andromeda, he still bears the brunt of its failure. Garrus represents a lot of the good memories people have of the original trilogy. No one dislikes Garrus.

Still not looking great for Squall either way. 64% on someone equal to Ramza is nothing to write home about.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
davidponte 11/11/2018 2:23:19 PM#330
Looking roughly at the guru and those with similar scores to my own at the top, it seems like my bracket is going to come down to Squall > Zelda and Snake > Mario, both of which are not looking great at this point.
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abdou 11/11/2018 3:59:41 PM#331
Time for Vivi to beat DK! I mean he beat Mario
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Ranticoot 11/11/2018 4:00:59 PM#332
Uh

Dante
Born to lose, live to win!
Yoshi and Pikachu looking interesting early.
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Pokémon is a fraud if Pika loses this
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abdou 11/11/2018 4:01:54 PM#335
Dante not looking good. honestly never expected him to win a close match.
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Averia 11/11/2018 4:02:09 PM#336
Thie first update should reveal which way the matches will swing
Damnit, Dante
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Dante needs to purchase orbs to get more votes.
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tgs2 11/11/2018 4:05:58 PM#339
That first minute of Dante/Ganondorf was gross. At least Dante looks better now?
Vivi/Ganondorf looks to be really interesting based on these percentages. If Vivi goes up and Ganon goes down as I expect, though…
If all else fails use fire.
Team Rocket Elite 11/11/2018 4:09:03 PM#341
10 people fell off the Top 50. Vegink, dilateDChemist, Seanchan, VeryInsane, Ngamer64, htaeD, Exystence, tyder21, Zylothewolf and Mr_Monkford did not have Sephiroth, Amaterasu, Ryu and KOS-MOS winning.

11 people got one match wrong but survived. scaryice, pronouncemyname, AxemRedRanger, MasterMoltar, Bolto4, Safer_777, Gyarados, Fart, TylerF, gitanil and BK_Sheikah00 also did not have Sephiroth, Amaterasu, Ryu and KOS-MOS winning.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
Lots of changes in the top 50. The KOS-MOS fourpack must have been really mistake-laden.
lol dante won the board vote
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Lots of changes in the top 50. The KOS-MOS fourpack must have been really mistake-laden.

Both Ammy and KOS-MOS were big upsets for the casuals.
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So I guess Resident Evil was just weaker after all.

Renewed faith in Aeris > Fox!
Team Rocket Elite 11/11/2018 4:12:10 PM#347
Can some one explain to me why Chun-Li is projected to get like 47% on Dante?
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Can some one explain to me why Chun-Li is projected to get like 47% on Dante?


Chun-Li has gotten steadily closer to Ryu over the years, and if King K. Rool at his hype peak is close to Captain Falcon then Ryu is on-par with Sephiroth.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Can some one explain to me why Chun-Li is projected to get like 47% on Dante?

Borrowing from the Superman line of thinking...

Zelda is as strong as it needs to be.
'but I have this match that shows otherwise'

buddy are you gonna show me 2002 stats to justify a pick in 2007
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