Resident Evil 4 vs. Symphony of the Night who wins?
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Safer_777 11/4/2018 2:59:25 AM#152
RE 4 can do it I believe. Characters don't equal games. Although SOTN got re-released recently I believe. So it is a toss up. Probably.
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Nanis23 11/4/2018 3:09:01 AM#153
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Resident Evil 4 vs. Symphony of the Night who wins?

Why do you always come with those idiotic and random questions out of nowhere
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I love this bold new world where Donkey Kong is stronger than Ganondorf and Vivi is looking great to win a division.
Big Bob 11/4/2018 3:36:36 AM#155
Next thing you know, Vivi will be beating Mario!
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OFool 11/4/2018 5:13:32 AM#156
GameFAQs seems to have undergone a boost for childish characters in general- a huge overlap with Smash needless to say, but even Vivi gets a boost from this
PoIl6177 11/4/2018 5:23:24 AM#157
OFool posted...
GameFAQs seems to have undergone a boost for childish characters in general- a huge overlap with Smash needless to say, but even Vivi gets a boost from this

What a ridiculous idea
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OFool 11/4/2018 5:40:04 AM#158
PoIl6177 posted...
OFool posted...
GameFAQs seems to have undergone a boost for childish characters in general- a huge overlap with Smash needless to say, but even Vivi gets a boost from this

What a ridiculous idea


Is it?

The average age of a GameFAQs user has probably gone from 20 to 32 in the past 15 years. Angsty characters aimed at teens and young adults have fallen off in appeal, modern characters with realistic character designs are not doing well (admittedly partially because GameFAQs users dont play that many new games), and characters with designs that would have been considered ‘childish’ 15 years ago (pikachu, yoshi, DK) are now seen with a lens of nostalgia.
Safer_777 11/4/2018 5:46:47 AM#159
Childish characters factor confirmed!
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OFool posted...
PoIl6177 posted...
OFool posted...
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GameFAQs seems to have undergone a boost for childish characters in general- a huge overlap with Smash needless to say, but even Vivi gets a boost from this

What a ridiculous idea


Is it?

The average age of a GameFAQs user has probably gone from 20 to 32 in the past 15 years. Angsty characters aimed at teens and young adults have fallen off in appeal, modern characters with realistic character designs are not doing well (admittedly partially because GameFAQs users dont play that many new games), and characters with designs that would have been considered ‘childish’ 15 years ago (pikachu, yoshi, DK) are now seen with a lens of nostalgia.

Vivi doesn't fit into any of those "categories."
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I don't know World of Final Fantasy has made Vivi childish

https://hardcore-gamer.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2016/05/world-of-ff-vivi-100x68.jpg
CBX - Today's Winners: Dante, Ganondorf, Vivi, Leon Kennedy
Score: 54/64
I don't think the right word here is "childish", more like "cartoony".
LeonhartFour posted...
DK blows past 56% and shows no signs of slowing down yet

this really is the year for SC2K2 characters

Seeing what’s going on with Chun-Li today, I would’ve liked to see how Morrigan would’ve fared in a 1v1 again.

Sadly she never comes up in the minds of nominaters without an organized rally.
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OFool 11/4/2018 6:27:36 AM#164
The Owner of FF9 posted...

Vivi doesn't fit into any of those "categories."


He does to my mind. He is a child-like doll, with childish mannerisms, designed to look like a FF1 sprite character.

All of the FF9 characters were a bit child-like to be honest, a clear departure from The few FFs before and after it.

Pac man for instance was anti-voted in the first few contests now he is a beneficiary of the nostalgia vote or ‘ChildFAQs’ as I’m now subbing it in light of the overwhelming negative response!
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Pac-Man wasn't anti-voted, he was just weak
CBX - Today's Winners: Dante, Ganondorf, Vivi, Leon Kennedy
Score: 54/64
Wreath 11/4/2018 6:43:24 AM#166
charmander6000 posted...
Pac-Man wasn't anti-voted, he was just weak


This. Plus people were so angry and upset years later with the undertale rally sans got antivoted
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Nah, Sans was just weaker. GameFAQs doesn't care about Undertale. It was literally losing 65/35 to Mass Effect 3 before the rally.

Both Sans and Draven benefited from registered users votes counting double so there was no anti-voting.
CBX - Today's Winners: Dante, Ganondorf, Vivi, Leon Kennedy
Score: 54/64
Donkey Kong continues to be the bane of my bracket's existence. Well it was a fun 4 day stretch on the leaderboard.

The worst part is Donkey Kong was one of my noms lol
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VeryInsane 11/4/2018 6:56:13 AM#169
Maybe the voters all played DKC2 and remembered how dope it was

(Don’t mind the fact that DK isn’t a playable character in that game)
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This is DKCR and Tropical Freeze's doing.

In 2013, DKCR already existed, but nobody noticed DK had boosted because both matches were an LFF mess, and nobody knew exactly how strong Lightning was. We assumed she was fodder and that is obviously not the case now. She is looking like a low midcarder, imo.

Before DKCR, DK hadn't had a decent game since DKC3, in like 1996. He had DK64 but that was a divisive game. Heck, the most recent really popular game with DK as a protagonist is DKC1.

DK boosted and it's not just a Smash thing. He is legit now.
PoIl6177 posted...
OFool posted...
GameFAQs seems to have undergone a boost for childish characters in general- a huge overlap with Smash needless to say, but even Vivi gets a boost from this

What a ridiculous idea

It’s not. Smash characters are going wild but Ganon looks like s***.
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Wreath 11/4/2018 7:34:16 AM#172
DK will take me off the leaderboards today but hopefully with master hand winning tomorrow I'll be back on cause LOL monika
Dorf doesn't really have a reason to be stronger since he's not even in BotW and that form of Ganon is more a force of nature than an actual character.

Returns and TF Switch probably have some effect, but I doubt that alone would be enough to boost DK so much. No, the main reason DK is doing so well is that Smash Ultimate render with DK giving some serious "f*** me" eyes that most gamers just can't resist.
Match LXIX: (1) Zero vs. (9) Knuckles the Echidna

Current Contest Performance

Zero
Defeated Primrose, 74.18% - 25.82%

Knuckles the Echidna
Defeated Zidane Tribal, 56.80% - 43.20%

Analysis

Last round, Zero was able to do what was expected of him, though with Primrose being a new character we don’t really have any indication of his strength. Knuckles of the other hand, upset the guru pick and had a relatively easy win against Zidane. As the contest wore on it became easier to understand that characters like Knuckles were going to be stronger.

If this was the same Knuckles we saw in 2005 I would give him an outside chance at winning this match, but his victory over Zidane was not enough to change my mind. He will however, have a respectable performance. Knuckles does have some strength when he isn’t being fed to noble nine characters while Zero isn’t exactly top of the elite tier.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Zero > Zidane Tribal

charmander6000’s Prediction: Zero wins, 56.95% - 43.05%




Match LXX: (12) Master Hand vs. (13) Wario

Current Contest Performance

Master Hand
Defeated Noctis Lucis Caelum, 57.55% - 42.45%

Wario
Defeated Monika, 64.56% - 35.44%

Analysis

Damn it, the glove did it again. What’s worse is that I had Noctis winning this match. Now, was this because Master Hand is strong or is Noctis really that weak? It’s hard to tell. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate hype is quite strong on this site given all the results we’ve seen in this contest. Wario also isn’t a pillar of strength either, nor is he a fan favourite.

Still, I think there is a good chance that Wario could SFF Master Hand. The Hand is more of a placeholder for Smash fans and I can’t imagine a large portion of people have strong feelings towards him. On the flip side, I do give Master Hand a significant chance at winning this match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Noctis Lucis Caelum > Wario

charmander6000’s Prediction: Wario wins, 54.38% - 45.62%
CBX - Today's Winners: Dante, Ganondorf, Vivi, Leon Kennedy
Score: 54/64
Match LXXI: (3) Yoshi vs. (6) Velvet Crowe

Current Contest Performance

Yoshi
Defeated Shantae, 74.27% - 25.73%

Velvet Crowe
Defeated James Sunderland, 61.04% - 38.96%

Analysis

I personally thought Yoshi could have done a little better against Shantae, but that could have been me underestimating her. Regardless, she is essentially fodder and Yoshi still has a chance at winning this division though sadly we won’t truly know his chance until round 3 due to his four-pack containing new characters.

Velvet did well by becoming the first Tales character, not from Symphonia to win a match. Of course, anyone can win a match if you give them a weak enough opponent. Pyramid Head already established that he was weak and the poll calling him James and having a picture of a generic guy definitely didn’t help Sunderland’s case. I give Yoshi a great chance at outdoing his percentage from last round. There is no doubt that Velvet will be fodder.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Yoshi > James Sunderland

charmander6000’s Prediction: Yoshi wins, 73.73% - 26.27%




Match LXXII: (7) Pikachu vs. (2) Kratos

Current Contest Performance

Pikachu
Defeated Scorpion, 66.41% - 33.59%

Kratos
Defeated John Marston, 73.18% - 26.82%

Analysis

I know the 2 seed curse (formerly, 3 seed) is a thing, but they are not having a great contest. Of course, that’s because they are overseeded. Kratos looked pretty good last round, though it is likely that John Marston is weaker now and it wasn’t like he had a lot of strength in 2013. It still remains to be seen if Kratos has gotten weaker. Newer characters have been flopping everywhere, but I could see Kratos being an exception or at the very least weather it a bit better.

Pikachu had a monstrous start against Scorpion and while he came back down to Earth it still confirmed that his strength has remained from 2010. If he wasn’t the favourite to win the division pre-contest he definitely is now, though I wouldn’t call him a lock just yet.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Pikachu > Kratos

charmander6000’s Prediction: Pikachu wins, 61.73% - 38.27%
CBX - Today's Winners: Dante, Ganondorf, Vivi, Leon Kennedy
Score: 54/64
t_kizzle 11/4/2018 8:29:44 AM#176
Checking in on the results, wow, DK is pretty legit now. Makes Tidus look decent in hindsight.
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OFool posted...
The Owner of FF9 posted...

Vivi doesn't fit into any of those "categories."


He does to my mind. He is a child-like doll, with childish mannerisms, designed to look like a FF1 sprite character.

All of the FF9 characters were a bit child-like to be honest, a clear departure from The few FFs before and after it.

I think you're confusing visual design with character traits.

Vivi's arc is overcoming an existential crisis. I'm just not sure he belongs in the same "category" as Pikachu.
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im317 11/4/2018 8:50:14 AM#178
oh hey charmander i have Wario winning that match so i have a chance to actually pass you.
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Nanis23 11/4/2018 11:19:36 AM#179
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Well..s***

By the way I can totally see Master Hand > Wario
This contest is stupid like that
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Team Rocket Elite 11/4/2018 11:32:24 AM#181
I mean the army of Master Hand scene looked pretty cool in the World of Light opening. I could see a boost from that. >_>
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Janus5k 11/4/2018 11:35:58 AM#182
Master Hand/Wario seems a lot like Master Hand/Robotnik (fat character everyone knows but few people like) except it's probably worse for the glove.
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Nanis23 posted...
https://i.imgtc.com/lMA9gBQ.png
Well..s***

By the way I can totally see Master Hand > Wario
This contest is stupid like that

Master Hand should be the favorite. Wario’s performance on Monika doesn’t seem impressive now that Ammy and PAC-Man destroyed their rally bait characters, and I can easily see Monika without rallies being in their League. Then, there’s the intangibles. Master Hand was featured heavily in the closing of the last Direct, whereas Wario has been a non-factor in the hype for Smash. He stands out like crazy in the match pictures.

And then with Lightning not looking bad today, maybe Noctis isn’t that bad either?
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Nanis23 11/4/2018 11:40:13 AM#184
I am totally going to vote Master Hand because World of Light hype

I mean I don't care about either of them, might as well vote for the last thing I remember fondly
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Advokaiser 11/4/2018 11:51:01 AM#185
_SecretSquirrel posted...
And then with Lightning not looking bad today, maybe Noctis isn’t that bad either?


What match are you looking at? She's getting doubled.
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Mac Arrowny 11/4/2018 11:55:51 AM#186
She's doing a bit better than Axel from Kingdom Hearts did.
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Team Rocket Elite 11/4/2018 12:05:49 PM#187
Assuming Dante is his usual self, Lightning is going to clear the fodder line. That's not bad.
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This match is less stats and more SFF.

And I have a hard time wrapping my head over people liking MH more than Wario. Unless the WarioWare hate is bigger than I thought.
OFool 11/4/2018 2:16:55 PM#191
The Owner of FF9 posted...
OFool posted...
The Owner of FF9 posted...
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Vivi doesn't fit into any of those "categories."


He does to my mind. He is a child-like doll, with childish mannerisms, designed to look like a FF1 sprite character.

All of the FF9 characters were a bit child-like to be honest, a clear departure from The few FFs before and after it.

I think you're confusing visual design with character traits.

Vivi's arc is overcoming an existential crisis. I'm just not sure he belongs in the same "category" as Pikachu.


The two things are strongly linked. Perhaps I’m conflating the two, but my point is probably more about character design (visual design, mannerisms) than about their traits or arc.

His story and development might be very nuanced (I never played much FF9) but at the end of the day he is a doll that looks very cartoonish and, like DK/Kirby/Pac-man/Yoshi/Tails/Pikachu, he is not human and therefore is not obviously relatable in the same way human characters are. Yes, we can relate to their emotions or their situation, but at the end of the day they are animals, or fantastical creatures that have been anthropomorphised.

If you look at this contest, by and large the human character has lost out in favour of the fantastical and it’s an effect that is more pronounced this year than previously.

I believe it is because some of us used to identify with these human characters and now we find it a bit silly to see ourselves any more in a cyber punk teen than a flying fox.

It’s hard to remember the person I was 15 years ago, but I honestly believe I would feel that voting for Vivi/Tails/DK over say Squall/Shepard/Leon would be the ‘childish choice’, and because I was so ‘mature’ I could relate to and see the superiority of, the later ‘adult based’ group.

Could be wrong, but I think there is something about the way our voting has changed over the years that is worth analysing beyond individual characters’ strength changing
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
This match is less stats and more SFF.

And I have a hard time wrapping my head over people liking MH more than Wario. Unless the WarioWare hate is bigger than I thought.


man who hates WarioWare
OFool posted...
The Owner of FF9 posted...
OFool posted...
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The Owner of FF9 posted...

Vivi doesn't fit into any of those "categories."


He does to my mind. He is a child-like doll, with childish mannerisms, designed to look like a FF1 sprite character.

All of the FF9 characters were a bit child-like to be honest, a clear departure from The few FFs before and after it.

I think you're confusing visual design with character traits.

Vivi's arc is overcoming an existential crisis. I'm just not sure he belongs in the same "category" as Pikachu.


The two things are strongly linked. Perhaps I’m conflating the two, but my point is probably more about character design (visual design, mannerisms) than about their traits or arc.

His story and development might be very nuanced (I never played much FF9) but at the end of the day he is a doll that looks very cartoonish and, like DK/Kirby/Pac-man/Yoshi/Tails/Pikachu, he is not human and therefore is not obviously relatable in the same way human characters are. Yes, we can relate to their emotions or their situation, but at the end of the day they are animals, or fantastical creatures that have been anthropomorphised.

If you look at this contest, by and large the human character has lost out in favour of the fantastical and it’s an effect that is more pronounced this year than previously.

I believe it is because some of us used to identify with these human characters and now we find it a bit silly to see ourselves any more in a cyber punk teen than a flying fox.

It’s hard to remember the person I was 15 years ago, but I honestly believe I would feel that voting for Vivi/Tails/DK over say Squall/Shepard/Leon would be the ‘childish choice’, and because I was so ‘mature’ I could relate to and see the superiority of, the later ‘adult based’ group.

Could be wrong, but I think there is something about the way our voting has changed over the years that is worth analysing beyond individual characters’ strength changing

I don't really agree with you, but you explained your point well here.

Is Vivi really not human though? That's debatable. You should play the game :)
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LeonhartFour posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
This match is less stats and more SFF.

And I have a hard time wrapping my head over people liking MH more than Wario. Unless the WarioWare hate is bigger than I thought.


man who hates WarioWare


I like warioware but still wish we got more silly wario land games where wario piledrives dinosaurs, does that count?
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LeonhartFour posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
This match is less stats and more SFF.

And I have a hard time wrapping my head over people liking MH more than Wario. Unless the WarioWare hate is bigger than I thought.


man who hates WarioWare

I've never played it, but if the Smash stages are any indication then I wouldn't like those games.
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Lopen 11/4/2018 3:32:38 PM#197
UltimaterializerX posted...
I've never played it, but if the Smash stages are any indication then I wouldn't like those games.


If Smash stages were any indication Mother 3 would be one of the most reviled games ever.
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davidponte 11/4/2018 3:54:58 PM#198
I'm trying to figure out how Smash stages can be an indication of anything.
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davidponte 11/4/2018 4:01:13 PM#199
What is Knuckles doing
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