ExThaNemesis posted...
Imagine needing a rally to beat freaking Ramza Beoulve.

Also I'm so sorry, Leon. Now you know how I've felt with Sephiroth.

I don't think Squall has approached Sephiroth levels of abject humiliation yet.

And I say that as a Sephiroth fanboy. I feel your pain, brother.
Slowly? He's gained 1.5% in the last hour.

He'll finish above 75% at the rate he's going.
creativename posted...
I don't think Squall has approached Sephiroth levels of abject humiliation yet.


Not even close, considering the worst loss he's ever had was finishing a respectable third in an LFF match to two bandwagoned/rallied entities in 2013.

heck the fact that Squall refused to fold in that match is probably why Vivi lost
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LeonhartFour posted...
Slowly? He's gained 1.5% in the last hour.

He'll finish above 75% at the rate he's going.


Relatively slowly, anyway. That's good to hear though - means Squall isn't nearly as much of a jobber as the board vote made him out to be. Who knows if it'll be enough to beat Zelda, of course, but it's promising at least!
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I mean Squall is clearly doomed against Zelda based on this, right?
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ExThaNemesis posted...
I mean Squall is clearly doomed against Zelda based on this, right?

Squall might not break 40%.
Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
ZeldaTPLink 10/26/2018 7:45:27 PM#258
He's slowing down now, but the night vote should push him a little to 75% probably.
ExThaNemesis posted...
I mean Squall is clearly doomed against Zelda based on this, right?


I haven't given up on him winning that match, no.
Lopen 10/26/2018 7:46:31 PM#260
You can't take much out of matches vs weak entries between those two. Squall gets anti-voted, which matters a lot.

Honestly guessed Squall would get about this. Zelda is surprising but Ezio could have dropped any amount of strength.
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Averia 10/26/2018 7:46:34 PM#261
ExThaNemesis posted...
Imagine needing a rally to beat freaking Ramza Beoulve.


Imagine rallying against Ramza and failing to easily crush a 100 vote barrier
Janus5k 10/26/2018 7:47:21 PM#262
Squall looks fine, especially considering he's still going up.

Zelda just happens to look really good.
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ZeldaTPLink 10/26/2018 7:47:30 PM#263
I'd say Zelda is the favorite here, but there is a chance AC is getting anti-voted like crazy due to what was done with the franchise.
Well, that Reddit has like 800 active users.

I mean in a match like this it might be enough to make a noticeable dent but yeah
I'm laughing at the thought of Hat Kid > Ezio, which might be the one thing that would really make me want a Squall victory.
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ZeldaTPLink 10/26/2018 7:49:49 PM#266
Also I think Hat Kid was just heavily underestimated. There were people saying she'd be the weakest char in the bracket.

Come on people, she is a highly-aclaimed indie that is just what B8 likes. I see references to her game out there pretty often. Can't be that different from Cuphead.
_SecretSquirrel posted...
I'm laughing at the thought of Hat Kid > Ezio, which might be the one thing that would really make me want a Squall victory.


Ezio and Gordon are probably going to end up below people you wouldn't expect anyway!

I mean unless Zelda and Bowser have surpassed Ganondorf indirectly by a decent margin they'll end up below Neku at the very least
anybody who said the weakest character wouldn't be Cayde shouldn't be taken seriously

that was the obvious, obvious pick for weakest character heading into the contest IMO
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Lopen 10/26/2018 7:51:39 PM#269
Ezio could 60-40 hat kid and Squall could still beat Zelda, that's how much anti-voting matters in measuring through jobber squashes.
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I'm more comparing Hat Kid with Cuphead, no way she's stronger than him.
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ZeldaTPLink 10/26/2018 7:54:19 PM#271
charmander6000 posted...
I'm more comparing Hat Kid with Cuphead, no way she's stronger than him.


I'd pick Cuphead but I doubt he breaks 60%.
ZeldaTPLink 10/26/2018 7:55:32 PM#272
Lopen is onto something btw. Not a single match had over 80%. These big blowouts aren't very precise.
Janus5k 10/26/2018 7:57:02 PM#273
In total fairness we removed seven of the most likely characters to get huge blowouts from the bracket

sorry Cloud
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Lopen 10/26/2018 7:57:07 PM#274
Well specifically I meant that Squall gets anti-voted more than most characters but yeah we might have a higher contingent of underdog voting in general given the vote totals have shrunk so much meaning that yeah measuring through fodder is nearly meaningless in general
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
Lopen is onto something btw. Not a single match had over 80%. These big blowouts aren't very precise.


Well, you've gotta be careful about putting too much stock in fodder blowouts anyway.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1758-midgar-division-round-2-cloud-strife-vs-vyse
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
I'd say Zelda is the favorite here, but there is a chance AC is getting anti-voted like crazy due to what was done with the franchise.

Well if something is getting anti-voted to the point of being fodder, then I'd say that's just innate weakness.

Anti-votes are more for characters that are winning, not below 25%.

The concept of anti-votes is that it's non-linear. If it's linear then well, that's just "votes".
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Nanis23 10/26/2018 8:00:45 PM#277
Ahh, no longer poor ramza...
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ZeldaTPLink 10/26/2018 8:01:06 PM#278
creativename posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
I'd say Zelda is the favorite here, but there is a chance AC is getting anti-voted like crazy due to what was done with the franchise.

Well if something is getting anti-voted to the point of being fodder, then I'd say that's just innate weakness.

Anti-votes are more for characters that are winning, not below 25%.

The concept of anti-votes is that it's non-linear. If it's linear then well, that's just "votes".


True, but what I mean is maybe AC is fodder now and Zelda isn't really that impressive.

Which would mean that yes, Ezio loses to Hat Kid.

And that would mean we need to stop nominating him.
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Is Squall really this anti-voted? That is rather unfortunate. I knew he got anti-voted, but I never thought it was this bad.
Lopen 10/26/2018 8:04:48 PM#282
Characters I'd never measure through fodder beatdowns:

Cloud
Sephiroth
Squall
Sora
Tidus
Master Chief

Think those are the main suspects. Possible I'm missing a few. In certain years Link would be on this list too actually.
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HaRRicH 10/26/2018 8:05:06 PM#283
I'd take Cuphead to break 60% on Hat Kid, but the comparison with him and particularly Shovel Knight still makes sense -- A Hat in Time had some serious Kickstarter attention with a game that delivered to its fans, and its main character is pretty identifiable with its game.

Cuphead/Shovel Knight feels like the best match between the three of them though.
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Lopen posted...
Think those are the main suspects. Possible I'm missing a few. In certain years Link would be on this list too actually.


I think Vincent can be thrown on that list too, since he's anti-voted pretty badly too.
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LeonhartFour posted...
oh if only Tidus had the chance to lay a fodder beatdown again


f*** tidus tbqh
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what's the record for closest wire-to-wire 24-hour match?

we might need to know depending on how Garrus/Ramza plays out
although maybe not if Ramza can keep gaining like that for a while

I know Frog/Liquid and CT/LTTP's max leads were something like 400-500, if I'm not mistaken.

*checks*

Max lead in CT/LTTP was 524, max lead in Frog/Liquid was 460.
LeonhartFour posted...
although maybe not if Ramza can keep gaining like that for a while

I know Frog/Liquid and CT/LTTP's max leads were something like 400-500, if I'm not mistaken.

*checks*

Max lead in CT/LTTP was 524, max lead in Frog/Liquid was 460.

Wasn't it MGS2/SOTC?
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Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
Right now, Garrus vs Isaac(Golden Sun) who would you pick to win?
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looks like Frog/Liquid is it
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Ah. 460 then unless you count second or third place finishes in lol4ways
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Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
AxemRedRanger posted...
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Closest_wire_to_wire_matches

looks like Frog/Liquid is it


Hmm...That list doesn't have anything from 2015 on it. I wonder if it's been updated because I seem to remember Majora's Mask/Super Metroid being really close from wire-to-wire.

*checks*

Yep, max lead was 521.
Lopen 10/26/2018 8:34:16 PM#295
For some reason I thought it was Ken vs Wesker. I mean that's #2 but not sure why I thought that took the record
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Ytterbicide 10/26/2018 8:35:17 PM#296
SuperNiceDog posted...
Right now, Garrus vs Isaac(Golden Sun) who would you pick to win?


Probably Isaac, I'd bet Smash hype gives him enough of a tailwind to get to where he needs

Plus I'd take Isaac>Ramza without thinking twice
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kateee 10/26/2018 8:35:35 PM#297
the one time i didn't believe in final fantasy, it pulls it off

come on
Lopen posted...
For some reason I thought it was Ken vs Wesker. I mean that's #2 but not sure why I thought that took the record


Looking at the updater, it's because Ken/Wesker didn't actually go above Frog/Liquid until the very end of the match. Ken was slowly pulling away toward the end and it didn't go above 460 until there were about 20 minutes left.
Xuxon 10/26/2018 8:37:29 PM#299
Ken/Wesker wasn't 24 hours though. there were a lot of closer 12 hour matches.

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