I really overestimated this website's love for The Last of Us... oh well.

I voted Ike anyway, lol.
LeonhartFour 10/25/2018 10:51:47 PM#452
whoa Phoenix doubled Chris on that update

he might actually be able to stay above 58% or maybe even stay around 59%
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Yeah I knew people would pick Phoenix Wright but still was hoping Chris would win...
Nanis23 10/25/2018 10:59:41 PM#454
LeonhartFour posted...
_SecretSquirrel posted...
Like I'm wondering if he would have beat Marth 1v1


He absolutely would have.

As you'll see when he beats Ike next round.

like are we really going to try to say Nightmare flipped that result?

give Phoenix more credit than that because he's earned it

I want to believe
I like Phoenix a lot and I have him beating Ike in my bracket but...I dunno, barely holding over 60% against Chris is meh

And I did read the rest of the posts, they just didn't convince me of Chris's strength
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LeonhartFour 10/25/2018 11:05:52 PM#455
I think your expectations of Phoenix or Ike are too high if you think this is a "meh' performance for Phoenix.

but I mean if you want to believe Chris is so bad that he'd have a close match with Joel or something sure go ahead (he wouldn't)
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LeonhartFour 10/25/2018 11:07:50 PM#458
Did you sit out the guru Leon? Couldn't see your name
Started from the bottom now we here
Someone should go around gamefaqs boards to look for salt material
Hey Leon, can you make the next topic?
Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
KamikazePotato posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/77132601/911185340

Salt transcends boundaries.

Still had a point, though. Noctis losing to a hand is ridiculous but whatever... no loss will ever upset me. I've learned to not care anymore a long time ago.
LeonhartFour 10/25/2018 11:37:14 PM#463
haloiscoolisbak posted...
Did you sit out the guru Leon? Couldn't see your name


I entered. I guess my bracket hasn't been entered on the site yet.

Maybe because Ange has me on ignore and hasn't seen it LOL
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If you were on the first page that seems likely
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ConsiderSudoku posted...
The only one that really threw me off was James vs Velvet. She's from a Tales game and both have tragic backstories but Silent Hill 2 is more popular than any Tales of game.


Not Symphonia! Which is not Velvet's game but whatevs. Also in the broader sense Berseria probably at least sold better that Silent Hill 2. Silent Hill was never a big franchise.
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LeonhartFour posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
Did you sit out the guru Leon? Couldn't see your name


I entered. I guess my bracket hasn't been entered on the site yet.

Maybe because Ange has me on ignore and hasn't seen it LOL

http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=171

I think they must have thought best for last, because all the other ID numbers are blank.
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Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
Nanis23 10/26/2018 3:37:39 AM#468
I thought you liked FFXV
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wow Ike's tanking percentage so hard and barely gaining on his lead so much it's making me wonder if there's a rally somewhere
I do. Platinum to prove it.

Noctis is trash. He’s the exact kind of guy I loathe. Everything is handed to him from birth and he b****es anyway. I don’t resent trust fund kids, but I don’t want to hear any whining if things go bad. They have a head start. As a self made millionaire, there is an obvious difference between self made and born into. Noctis is the standard spoiled rich kid who doesn’t appreciate s***.

I cannot WAIT for that pca writeup.
Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
actually looking at it Ike's barely winning in the UK so that might explain it

he might start recovering percentage as we get more and more back into North America dominating the voting
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Actually Leons bracket was on page 2 of the original topic and the person assinged to that page just happened to get to it last night

Also for important things like Guru I use an ignoreless account to double check that all the bracketd are taken care of
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pjbasis 10/26/2018 8:44:00 AM#473
UItimaterializer posted...
I do. Platinum to prove it.

Noctis is trash. He’s the exact kind of guy I loathe. Everything is handed to him from birth and he b****es anyway. I don’t resent trust fund kids, but I don’t want to hear any whining if things go bad. They have a head start. As a self made millionaire, there is an obvious difference between self made and born into. Noctis is the standard spoiled rich kid who doesn’t appreciate s***.

I cannot WAIT for that pca writeup.


*FFXV spoilers*
Doesn't he like give up his life at the end LOL? That's like the opposite of spoiled, or you blatently disregard character development? First impressions rule forever?
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pjbasis 10/26/2018 8:44:45 AM#474
I mean there are plenty of reasons to not like Noctis, but it boggles my mind when people dislike characters because of intentionally designed flaws they grow out of.
yes people who hate characters only go by first impressions and blatantly disregard character development

it's like how people who hate Wakka talk about what a racist he is even though part of his development is getting over that
Self made millionaire? I thought Ulti got his money via lawsuit?

Also from what I saw of FFXV watching someone else play it, that isnt a remotely accurate description of Noctis
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Dva69 10/26/2018 9:19:10 AM#477
pjbasis posted...
UItimaterializer posted...
I do. Platinum to prove it.

Noctis is trash. He’s the exact kind of guy I loathe. Everything is handed to him from birth and he b****es anyway. I don’t resent trust fund kids, but I don’t want to hear any whining if things go bad. They have a head start. As a self made millionaire, there is an obvious difference between self made and born into. Noctis is the standard spoiled rich kid who doesn’t appreciate s***.

I cannot WAIT for that pca writeup.


*FFXV spoilers*
Doesn't he like give up his life at the end LOL? That's like the opposite of spoiled, or you blatently disregard character development? First impressions rule forever?


People will even do such acts not as selfless but because they are trying "undo" past actions of douchebaggery. Still being selfish all along, worried about how people will remember you.
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creativename 10/26/2018 10:10:49 AM#479
That'a pretty terrible pic of Guile.

Do others agree he'd be doing a few points better with an SNES/arcade in-fight sprite?

LeonhartFour posted...
Huh, Phoenix is holding pretty steady at 60%. Should be interesting to see how this plays out because both of these series have pretty bad day votes.

Also real talk: Estelle has the worst match pic today. Her appeal isn't in being a cutesy moe character.

Whats her appeal from, and what would be a good pic for her then?
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Honestly that pic is probably the best she could have got even if it's not in character. People who know who she is will vote for her anyway and a cutesy picture will gain more votes via people who are indifferent than her normal pose pictures. If she got a standard non cutesy picture she probably does slightly worse imo because anybody who has played the game isn't going to vote against her based on picture
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LeonhartFour 10/26/2018 10:18:45 AM#481
Her appeal is being an action girl. She's not meant to be "cute."

Something like this would have been a lot better:

http://legendofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/File:Estelle_kiseki-pe0.jpg

whoa that pic is way too big my bad
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LeonhartFour 10/26/2018 10:20:19 AM#482
ShatteredElysium posted...
Honestly that pic is probably the best she could have got even if it's not in character. People who know who she is will vote for her anyway and a cutesy picture will gain more votes via people who are indifferent than her normal pose pictures. If she got a standard non cutesy picture she probably does slightly worse imo because anybody who has played the game isn't going to vote against her based on picture


I don't think it's even good as a "cutesy" pic because, well, she's really not that cute.
I like that Guile picture a lot. What's wrong with it? You can see the hair and hed got some shades on. That is literally in all of Guiles unique character traits on display.

No pic this contest has been good or bad enough to change results more than at best 1%, I think. Were hardly in Vincent territory. Save that talk for Ren Amamiya.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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creativename posted...
Whats her appeal from, and what would be a good pic for her then?


She's a lot more tomboyish and aggressive and savage and energetic
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Did we get Guile in because we assumed he'd be the next strongest Street Fighter character? I'd always assumed that would be Zangief for some reason...
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CasanovaZelos posted...
Did we get Guile in because we assumed he'd be the next strongest Street Fighter character? I'd always assumed that would be Zangief for some reason...


He did score 4th highest in a SF2 character poll, albeit quite a bit behind Ken
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creativename 10/26/2018 10:59:34 AM#488
LeonhartFour posted...
Her appeal is being an action girl. She's not meant to be "cute."

Something like this would have been a lot better:

http://legendofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/File:Estelle_kiseki-pe0.jpg

whoa that pic is way too big my bad

I don't see much of a difference between a head shot of that pic and the one we got.

KamikazePotato posted...
I like that Guile picture a lot. What's wrong with it? You can see the hair and hed got some shades on. That is literally in all of Guiles unique character traits on display.

No pic this contest has been good or bad enough to change results more than at best 1%, I think. Were hardly in Vincent territory. Save that talk for Ren Amamiya.

I'd be shocked if giving Guile an arcade or SNES sprite didn't boost him by at least 1%. I can't agree with that at all. And I'm sure we've had a few other matches where a better or worse pic would move percent by much more than that.

I think you really underestimate the influence pics can potentially have. Especially if *both* pics are biased - great pic vs. horrible pic (see Solid S*** vs. sprite Frog).

I think an average vs. great and an average vs. horrible pic moving by more than 1% should be totally expected.

The Guile pic just doesn't capture the nostalgia.
Do people care about Guile or it's just his theme
LeonhartFour 10/26/2018 11:05:51 AM#490
creativename posted...
I don't see much of a difference between a head shot of that pic and the one we got.


Well, you're not a fan. Like to an outsider, I'm sure you don't see a problem with it, but that art style is just distinctly "not Trails in the Sky."

A pic has to be really atrocious for a non-fan to say "wow that's a really bad pic"

(like what Chris Redfield has today)

creativename posted...
I'd be shocked if giving Guile an arcade or SNES sprite didn't boost him by at least 1%


I mean sure if you want to break the format, but he's not going to get a sprite in round 1. But that picture is clearly and unmistakably Guile, so he's not going to get much better than that considering the format.

Sprite Kefka would do better too but he's not going to get that in the first round.

Plus, Kirby also has great sprites, so I'm not sure it wouldn't cancel out anyway. It's really difficult to get a pic advantage against Kirby.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Ike is popular because of Smash, not Fire Emblem.


I agree with the first half of this, but not the second. Smash definitely widened his base, but he was chosen for Smash in the first place because he was popular, and while the weird "voting multipliers" system makes it hard to gauge exactly how the popularity shakes out (and has in fact made many of them completely unpredictable), the Voting Gauntlets in FEH seem to unmistakably show that he's still the FE fanbase's favorite. In fact, I'm pretty sure he's been immune to that manufactured unpredictability and has still won every one he's been in.
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ShatteredElysium posted...
Honestly that pic is probably the best she could have got even if it's not in character. People who know who she is will vote for her anyway and a cutesy picture will gain more votes via people who are indifferent than her normal pose pictures. If she got a standard non cutesy picture she probably does slightly worse imo because anybody who has played the game isn't going to vote against her based on picture


You're not wrong. I actually like Golden Sun and I still didn't care enough not to bracket vote when I saw that, as expected, it was niche RPG character vs. niche RPG character and TOP OPTION (okay, fine, left option) was the cute girl. I mean, hell, it's been a valid strategy for 7-10 matches before.
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LeonhartFour 10/26/2018 11:32:03 AM#493
For the record, at the moment, if Phoenix = Ike, Chris beats Joel with 55.96%

This has slowly turned into a decently respectable showing for Joel.
swirIdude 10/26/2018 11:37:15 AM#494
The more respectable Joel's performance gets, the better chance of Ellie pulling off a stunner later in this round.
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LeonhartFour 10/26/2018 11:38:31 AM#495
swirIdude 10/26/2018 11:41:17 AM#496
LeonhartFour posted...
can beating KOS-MOS ever truly be categorized as a "stunner"


It can when it's a brand new western character doing the beating.
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xp1337 10/26/2018 11:42:48 AM#497
I never counted Ellie out of her match with KOS-MOS. I'm on team KOS-MOS but an Ellie win wouldn't shock me.

If it means anything (probably not?) she's more featured in TLoU2 marketing/hype, at least from what little I follow.
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LeonhartFour posted...
can beating KOS-MOS ever truly be categorized as a "stunner"

Maybe for Balrog0?
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swirIdude 10/26/2018 11:45:33 AM#499
AxemRedRanger posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
can beating KOS-MOS ever truly be categorized as a "stunner"

Maybe for Balrog0?


The only 0 he'd ever experience.
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LeonhartFour 10/26/2018 11:45:37 AM#500
swirIdude posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
can beating KOS-MOS ever truly be categorized as a "stunner"


It can when it's a brand new western character doing the beating.


but I don't think anyone here's been saying that Ellie has no chance to win

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