Whiskey_Nick posted...
Guys what if Scorpion is just really weak in 2018 due to years of not mattering?

How badly do you think he still smashes Shantae?
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HeroicSpiderPig posted...
I fully expect Pikachu to drop down near 60 by the time this is over.


so uh
SwiftyDC 10/21/2018 7:27:29 PM#353
Pikachu vs Mega Man might be interesting.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
so what I'm getting out of this is that the guy who looked equal to Crono last character battle is indeed delivering a Noble Nine-caliber performance

that's the important thing RIGHT

Better yet, if Pikachu was a Noble 9 caliber competitor that year, than you'd have to think Crono hasn't really fallen off this whole time, and whoever makes it out of Division 4 is heading straight to the loser's bracket for sure.
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Whiskey_Nick posted...
Guys what if Scorpion is just really weak in 2018 due to years of not mattering?


I mean MK9 and MK10 were both popular and well received

Pikachu was the one Pokemon in this bracket I've always been afraid of because his real strength is a wild card. My thinking is that he's the strongest Pokemon. He looked strong enough to take down Crono even if Magus hadn't been in the poll in CBIX.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Which I had before listening to you people. Every year I say go with gut, and every year I listen to nonsense.


I don't wanna hear any guff from you Mr. Doki Doki f***in' Literature Club


And with this Ulti closed his account.

People everywhere across B8 and r/politics rejoiced

The world was now balanced again
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pjbasis 10/21/2018 7:33:25 PM#357
Pikachu beat the Squirtle that beat Cloud.

He's a monster.
Prediction percentages:

Zero - 90.32%
Knuckles - 61.94%
Master Hand - 50.55%
Wario - 72.70%

Noctis/Master Hand was nearly the closest to a 50/50 we've had in terms of prediction percentage.

The record is 50.20% for Knuckles over Yuna in 2003.
SwiftyDC 10/21/2018 7:38:23 PM#359
So Pikachu is the favorite now over Yoshi, right?

Scorpion would probably 60-40 Shantae atleast.
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SwiftyDC posted...
So Pikachu is the favorite now over Yoshi, right?

Scorpion would probably 60-40 Shantae atleast.


He was always the favorite
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SwiftyDC 10/21/2018 7:40:46 PM#361
Yes but I’d think after this destruction he’d now be the heavy favorite. Yoshi/Pikachu was a debatable match.
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We're 600 votes ahead of yesterday's pace.

Also, fun projections!

If Yoshi = Pikachu, Scorpion gets 57.80% on Shantae.

(Yoshi is boned)

If Zero = Pikachu, Scorpion gets 58.79% on Primrose

(Zero is boned)
SwiftyDC posted...
Yes but I’d think after this destruction he’d now be the heavy favorite. Yoshi/Pikachu was a debatable match.


Pikachu's a pretty hefty favorite to win the entire division. I'm sure people might have considered Yoshi/Pikachu to be a close match beforehand, but most people went Pikachu.
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VeryInsane 10/21/2018 7:44:47 PM#365
Red is a weirdo and I have no clue how to gauge his strength because he like, almost lost to Ocelot in 2010 before the monstrous 13 run

I think he took advantage of a favorable matchup in his three way too so Sora can pull ahead
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If Ganondorf = Pikachu, Scorpion gets 65.85% on Neku

(Ganondorf is...maybe not quite as boned)
Let’s see what I have Pokemon-wise

Mega Man > Pikachu > Ganondorf
Sora > Red
Bowser > Charizard
Tifa > Mewtwo

I don’t think this Pikachu performance necessarily kills any of that, but I’m a bit nervous about Bowser.
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VeryInsane 10/21/2018 7:49:04 PM#368
And the other major comparison

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3834-varia-division-round-3-samus-aran-vs-sub-zero

Pretty sure it’s widely accepted that sub-zero is stronger than Scorpion but even if it’s close and Pikachu can put up Samus like numbers Mega Man could be scared
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Yesterday's charts:

Time | Zero | Primrose | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 73.89% | 26.11% | 609 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 76.45% | 23.55% | 3537 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 76.48% | 23.52% | 9184 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 69.93% | 30.07% | 4007 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 71.98% | 28.02% | 5910 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 74.34% | 25.66% | 6581 | (16:00-24:00)

Mega Man characters are still really strong out of the gate and really bad overnight.

Time | Zidane | Knux | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 44.67% | 55.33% | 600 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 43.57% | 56.43% | 3537 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 43.21% | 56.79% | 9184 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 43.52% | 56.48% | 4007 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 43.94% | 56.06% | 5910 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 42.12% | 57.88% | 6581 | (16:00-24:00)

Knux and Zidane have pretty similar trends, so there wasn't a lot of movement here (although the FFIX day vote is still kinda weak).

Time | Noctis | Hand | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 43.14% | 56.86% | 598 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 43.22% | 56.78% | 3540 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 41.97% | 58.03% | 9183 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 43.73% | 56.27% | 4009 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 42.83% | 57.17% | 5910 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 41.60% | 58.40% | 6581 | (16:00-24:00)

Noctis gets a little bump from the Euro vote (although not as much as you might think), and it seems pretty clear that the early night vote favors Nintendo pretty heavily so far.

Time | Monika | Wario | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 34.17% | 65.83% | 600 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 33.58% | 66.42% | 3538 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 34.44% | 65.56% | 9189 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 38.38% | 61.62% | 4007 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 35.27% | 64.73% | 5912 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 36.21% | 63.79% | 6583 | (16:00-24:00)

Wario does really well out of the gate. Monika does the best during the Euro vote, but generally does better during the day than she did at night.
LordoftheMorons posted...

I don’t think this Pikachu performance necessarily kills any of that, but I’m a bit nervous about Bowser.

I still don't feel concerned about Bowser yet. This Pikachu performance may not be all that different from the rat we saw in 2013. Meanwhile, Charizard laid several eggs in that contest nearly losing to Zelda and choking against Mega Man and Zero.

Now, if Bowser goes and fails to decimate Gordon Freeman, than I'll be worried about lighting striking twice against Charizard.
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Yeah, I'm not quite ready to extend this to all of Pokemon quite yet. Pikachu's real strength has always been something of an enigma because it gets obscured by weird results and SFF.

Although maybe it's possible that fighting game characters are weaker now or something. Chun-Li kinda underperformed in the eyes of people who didn't actually believe Spyro had a chance to win.

Also, I think the first real test of "Is Nintendo just going to dominate everything" is in a couple days with Alucard/Peach. If friggin' Princess Peach smokes Alucard (a longstanding contest vet with proven midcard strength), that's a big red flag in my book.
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WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Fighting games falling off the face of the earth explains everything.

Dissidia deboost.

Smash is a party game.


the truest evidence that Smash isn't a fighting game
Smash is best fighting game, though. That's why it's beasting when everyone is not.

Anyways, I look forward to Yoshi killing Velvet next round, because Velvet/James has got to be the worst match strength wise since Serious Sam and Mr. Driller.
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It's the first time something from Tales that isn't Symphonia has ever finished anything but dead last in a contest poll.

Velvet is probably stronger than Luke or Jade, but yeah, she's gonna look pretty bad next round.
VeryInsane 10/21/2018 8:23:47 PM#377
LeonhartFour posted...
It's the first time something from Tales that isn't Symphonia has ever finished anything but dead last in a contest poll.

Velvet is probably stronger than Luke or Jade, but yeah, she's gonna look pretty bad next round.


Yuri finished second against Face McShooty!
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oh right he did

Yuri is probably Velvet's ceiling honestly and he finished 123/128 in CBVIII.
swordz9 10/21/2018 8:29:03 PM#379
Smash beasts because of it having so much Nintendo and it being easy to get into. It’s like a Nintendo nerd’s dream because it has almost everything you could ask for in it. Xbox and Sony could copy it exactly and their versions would flop here because nobody would care
Team Rocket Elite 10/21/2018 8:30:30 PM#380
Sony can attest to that from experience.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
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LeonhartFour posted...
oh right he did

Yuri is probably Velvet's ceiling honestly and he finished 123/128 in CBVIII.

It's astonishing when you put it like that, but then again, we have a character in today's polls that once placed Bottom 5 in a contest, and that one is currently putting in a very dominant performance, so maybe 15 years later, we could be reminiscing about Velvet as a new Noble 9 beater.
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Nanis23 10/21/2018 8:36:27 PM#382
6/6 wins for the Smash crew now
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It won't surprise me if Yoshi does better against Velvet than he's doing against Shantae.

At the very least, I fully expect James to finish last in the X-Stats out of this fourpack.
Nanis23 10/21/2018 8:37:45 PM#384
Whiskey_Nick posted...
Guys what if Scorpion is just really weak in 2018 due to years of not mattering?

People said I am mad for Shulk > Sub Zero so I switched it
Looking like a bad desicion now
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im317 10/21/2018 8:38:18 PM#385
_SecretSquirrel posted...
CaptainOfCrush posted...
At this point, I think Mewtwo is the only Pokemon entrant who might not be a favorite to win their division just because Tifa/MMX is a tough duo to get through.

If you've got Pikachu/Charizard/Red against Noble 9ers in December, I'd probably trade brackets with you right now.

I still think it's a little early to be calling all of them based off Pikachu here, because I was certain he would be banging on the Noble 9's doors this contest. But yeah, Pikachu > Yoshi is a pretty safe bet, even without the Pokemon game being released on the same day.


maybe they will be to busy playing his new game to vote? not really thought but it would be ironic.

LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, I'm not quite ready to extend this to all of Pokemon quite yet. Pikachu's real strength has always been something of an enigma because it gets obscured by weird results and SFF.

Although maybe it's possible that fighting game characters are weaker now or something. Chun-Li kinda underperformed in the eyes of people who didn't actually believe Spyro had a chance to win.

Also, I think the first real test of "Is Nintendo just going to dominate everything" is in a couple days with Alucard/Peach. If friggin' Princess Peach smokes Alucard (a longstanding contest vet with proven midcard strength), that's a big red flag in my book.


wait isn't Alucard in Smash Ultimate now?
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For the record, if Shantae = Velvet, Yoshi would almost exactly 80/20 James Sunderland.

Sounds about right...!
im317 posted...

wait isn't Alucard in Smash Ultimate now?

He's an Assist Trophy. That just puts him on the same level as Waluigi.
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Nanis23 10/21/2018 8:42:22 PM#388
I wonder why we got those s*** western characters instead of good characters like, i dunno, GTA V Trevor
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don't worry you'll get to see a Western character who would be about as strong as a GTAV character in a couple of days
If Tommy Vercetti couldn't look respectable against the likes of Crash and Wheatley in 2013, I'd hate to see what anyone from GTA V could do, especially since it's already five years old and largely forgotten so Rockstar can sell absolute boatloads of microtransactions.
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Nanis23 10/21/2018 8:47:34 PM#391
Yes, go 2B!
(And yes I know she is Japanese)
Oh you mean Geralt>Rosalina
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After previously having been a decent midcarder, Vercetti did this 5 years after his game came out:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2881-division-5-round-1-master-chief-parappa-vercetti-yuna

After having previously been around the fodder-line at worst, Niko did this 5 years after his game came out:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5175-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-1-epona-vs-mordin-vs

Trevor's game is now 5 years old.
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Nanis23 10/21/2018 8:49:53 PM#394
AxemRedRanger posted...
After previously having been a decent midcarder, Vercetti did this 5 years after his game came out:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2881-division-5-round-1-master-chief-parappa-vercetti-yuna

After having previously been around the fodder-line at worst, Niko did this 5 years after his game came out:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5175-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-1-epona-vs-mordin-vs

Trevor's game is now 5 years old.

Ouch
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swordz9 10/21/2018 8:53:45 PM#395
Is Shadow vs Ness debated at all? I know one is Nintendo plus Smash, but Ness didn’t really appear to have any good matches when I looked and I wasn’t sure if he was better or worse than Shadow the hedgehog when looking at how both have done contest wise. I went with Shadow so maybe if he was in Sonic Mania he will get a boost or something
I think most people expect Ness to win, especially now.

Shadow wasn't in Sonic Mania.
VeryInsane 10/21/2018 8:55:55 PM#397
I feel like GTAV is more relevant now than either game was at the five year mark

Still wouldn’t pick Trevor to do something
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kateee 10/21/2018 8:58:39 PM#398
checked out the DDLC subreddit and saw like 5 threads related to the contest

was a nice change of pace from the apathy found elsewhere
VeryInsane posted...
I feel like GTAV is more relevant now than either game was at the five year mark

Still wouldn’t pick Trevor to do something

GTA V single player isn't relevant in the slightest. It's GTA Online that's printing Rockstar so much money, and Trevor is just a bit player in it.
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Oh hey, speaking of GTA, if you wanted it in a poll this year, check out PotD.
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