SwiftyDC posted...
I feel pretty good about my Leon > Vivi pick now.

This is the exact opposite of how you should be feeling about it! Vivi is significantly overperforming Leon on an opponent that Leon is only one match removed from.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
I mean s***, even Aya Brea is winning her match today

Since when did Tidus become the face of Square
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
BetrayedTangy posted...
I dont think all this means Square ducks. But I don't trust midcarder FF in any debatable match. Like Cecil is about to get his ass handed to him by Crash

I still think Cecil will do the ass handing. Even if FF's lost a few steps, it's still more than strong enough to handle most of the non-Nintendo stuff on the site. Apart from all-time classics like Snake, there's an enormous gulf between Nintendo, Square, and everything else.
He might not be the face of Square, but I'd say hes the guardian of the lower half.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
BetrayedTangy posted...
I dont think all this means Square ducks. But I don't trust midcarder FF in any debatable match. Like Cecil is about to get his ass handed to him by Crash

I still think Cecil will do the ass handing. Even if FF's lost a few steps, it's still more than strong enough to handle most of the non-Nintendo stuff on the site. Apart from all-time classics like Snake, there's an enormous gulf between Nintendo, Square, and everything else.

Besides, old Square and new Square (with Chrono Trigger or FF6 being the dividing line) are basically two different entities, so I don't think Tidus flopping means anything for Cecil, really.
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SwiftyDC 10/19/2018 7:39:43 PM#306
I don't know, maybe I'm crazy but I'd pick Dragonborn > Yu without hesitation.
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Dragonborn could beat Yu and there would still be a good amount of wiggle room for Vivi to beat Leon.

(Dragonborn also isn't good so I could easily see him losing to Yu outright)
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
VeryInsane 10/19/2018 7:43:04 PM#308
Oh I picked Sully out of homerism, so I guess I’ll take the hit there

Tidus was a mistake and probably should have taken note of the trend of Nintendo dominating the site
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I would take Dragonborn without a second thought.
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KamikazePotato posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5185-character-battle-ix-division-5-round-1-yu-vs-shadow-vs-kat
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5239-character-battle-ix-division-5-round-2-shadow-vs-leon-vs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7242-division-1-round-1-vivi-vs-yu

Using those three polls (as of now), Leon gets 41.58% on Vivi in a 1 v 1.

What's the math on 3 ways? Are Gordon's votes disregarded or are you adding them to the other characters, cause I'm pretty sure Leon would get a good portion of them
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_REDDIT_ 10/19/2018 7:52:42 PM#312
looks like gamecube's got N64 beat this time
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Finally completed my spreadsheet for the registered/anonymous voting splits in this contest:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub

The spreadsheet contains additional information that I will not include in this post.

Division 1, Round 1

Dante vs. Cuphead
Registered Vote Result:
Dante - 6362 (72.14%)
Cuphead - 2457 (27.86%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Dante - 6172 (70.49%)
Cuphead - 2584 (29.51%)

Chloe Price vs. Lightning
Registered Vote Result:
Chloe Price - 2243 (25.43%)
Lightning - 6579 (74.57%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Chloe Price - 2328 (26.58%)
Lightning - 6431 (73.42%)

Spyro the Dragon vs. Chun-Li
Registered Vote Result:
Spyro the Dragon - 3826 (43.38%)
Chun-Li - 4994 (56.62%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Spyro the Dragon - 3918 (44.74%)
Chun-Li - 4840 (55.26%)

Ganondorf vs. Neku Sakuraba
Registered Vote Result:
Ganondorf - 7002 (79.38%)
Neku Sakuraba - 1819 (20.62%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Ganondorf - 6749 (77.04%)
Neku Sakuraba - 2011 (22.96%)

The voting splits for Lightning suggest that the registered vote doesn't always agree with the actual board vote. Lightning had a fairly bad board vote during a time period dominated by registered users. Yet Lightning did better among registered users than anonymous users.
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LusterSoldier posted...
Finally completed my spreadsheet for the registered/anonymous voting splits in this contest:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub

The spreadsheet contains additional information that I will not include in this post.

Division 1, Round 1

Dante vs. Cuphead
Registered Vote Result:
Dante - 6362 (72.14%)
Cuphead - 2457 (27.86%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Dante - 6172 (70.49%)
Cuphead - 2584 (29.51%)

Chloe Price vs. Lightning
Registered Vote Result:
Chloe Price - 2243 (25.43%)
Lightning - 6579 (74.57%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Chloe Price - 2328 (26.58%)
Lightning - 6431 (73.42%)

Spyro the Dragon vs. Chun-Li
Registered Vote Result:
Spyro the Dragon - 3826 (43.38%)
Chun-Li - 4994 (56.62%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Spyro the Dragon - 3918 (44.74%)
Chun-Li - 4840 (55.26%)

Ganondorf vs. Neku Sakuraba
Registered Vote Result:
Ganondorf - 7002 (79.38%)
Neku Sakuraba - 1819 (20.62%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Ganondorf - 6749 (77.04%)
Neku Sakuraba - 2011 (22.96%)

The voting splits for Lightning suggest that the registered vote doesn't always agree with the actual board vote. Lightning had a fairly bad board vote during a time period dominated by registered users. Yet Lightning did better among registered users than anonymous users.


Thanks for that, luster
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SwiftyDC 10/19/2018 7:58:35 PM#316
I'm going to laugh if Aya Brea does better than Yu against Vivi.
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pjbasis 10/19/2018 8:00:20 PM#317
The registered voters (barely) favored the older character every time
foxhead84 10/19/2018 8:01:47 PM#318
Can someone ask SB to put back the percentile on the stats page. I really loved that feature
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:02:16 PM#319
Barring a DK choke, this result means Tidus will have only gotten out of the first round once in the last six contests. He hasn't finished first in a poll since 2005. I imagine he's got to have the fewest wins of any character who's been in every contest (since it's not a long list beyond the Noble Nine).

Poor guy.
pjbasis 10/19/2018 8:03:13 PM#320
VeryInsane posted...

Tidus was a mistake and probably should have taken note of the trend of Nintendo dominating the site


Could still be a more isolated DK boost. Gonna go with Lightning has been about Tidus level all along since DKC Returns.

Hopefully!
LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:05:48 PM#321
Yeah, I think it's a tad too early to make any judgments about the direction of the contest just yet.

but hey we haven't had a Character Battle in 5 years so everyone's got itchy trigger fingers
itchy CHRONO Trigger fingers

I can't believe KP took Crono over Cloud
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:11:50 PM#323
Fun comparison numbers:

If Narukami = Dragonborn, Vivi beats Leon with 54.35%

If DK = Leon, Tidus beats Dragonborn with 66.35%
I'm personally just excited to discuss and debate. I lurked the past like 4 contests, so all this discussion is a lot of fun for me.
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:16:30 PM#325
I think the comparison point to watch for here might be Zidane/Knuckles. If Knuckles blows past Zidane, I think the idea that DK was just stronger in CBIX because of Returns than him simply being stronger now because he's Nintendo gains a little credence. It could be a combination of the two, but yeah.

Of course, if Sonic Team has gotten a big boost from Mania, Tails > Drake looks good

and Squall > Sonic looks bad augh
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VeryInsane 10/19/2018 8:18:04 PM#326
How good did Nintendo games do in the games contest though? I think that’s a fair comparison point even if they were overlooked by All facing Undertale
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Grand Kirby 10/19/2018 8:20:12 PM#327
Geralt > Rosalina is looking worse and worse each minute.
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:21:32 PM#328
I think 2015 was mostly "90s stuff looks good." Nintendo and Square dominated the Games Contest (aside from Undertale) like they always do.

It's kind of weird that being old is good for games but not so much for characters.
LeonhartFour posted...
I think 2015 was mostly "90s stuff looks good." Nintendo and Square dominated the Games Contest (aside from Undertale) like they always do.

It's kind of weird that being old is good for games but not so much for characters.

Nostalgia can be a weird thing, where maybe the whole is looked upon more fondly than the individual parts.
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I think it's easier to be nostalgic for games, since there's less of them.
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the like 15th strongest nintendo game beat the best unrallied non-nintendo/square had to offer

good to see DK is pulling away now that the kiddies are going to bed
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Haste_2 10/19/2018 8:25:11 PM#333
Man, DK's killing Tidus now. I'm starting to really sweat over my having Zelda and Ganondorf lose in the division finals. Also, Great work Luster.
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:25:33 PM#334
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
the like 15th strongest nintendo game beat the best unrallied non-nintendo/square had to offer

good to see DK is pulling away now that the kiddies are going to bed


which match are we talking about? Mario 64/Skyrim? Or Mario RPG/Metal Gear Solid 3?

I think Mario 64 would be a little higher than 15th!

also Mario RPG is dangerous because it's a Nintendo/Square hybrid! Imagine how strong Mario RPG would be if it actually had come out in Europe!
pjbasis 10/19/2018 8:25:46 PM#335
LeonhartFour posted...
If Knuckles blows past Zidane, I think the idea that DK was just stronger in CBIX because of Returns than him simply being stronger now because he's Nintendo gains a little credence.


Huh?

If Knuckles blows past Zidane couldn't that be indicative of an FF debuff?
LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:28:04 PM#336
pjbasis posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
If Knuckles blows past Zidane, I think the idea that DK was just stronger in CBIX because of Returns than him simply being stronger now because he's Nintendo gains a little credence.


Huh?

If Knuckles blows past Zidane couldn't that be indicative of an FF debuff?


I mean Tidus is the only indication of an FF debuff thus far and everyone's calling for it so whatever

Knux only got 52% on Cecil friggin' Harvey and looked like crap against Celes/Seifer combined in 2013 so if he could defeat Zidane easily I'd chalk that up more to Knux being stronger than Zidane just suddenly falling off the face of the earth, especially with how dominant Vivi looks right now
Do we even know for sure Zidane is any better than Cecil?
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LeonhartFour posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
the like 15th strongest nintendo game beat the best unrallied non-nintendo/square had to offer

good to see DK is pulling away now that the kiddies are going to bed


which match are we talking about? Mario 64/Skyrim? Or Mario RPG/Metal Gear Solid 3?

I think Mario 64 would be a little higher than 15th!

also Mario RPG is dangerous because it's a Nintendo/Square hybrid! Imagine how strong Mario RPG would be if it actually had come out in Europe!


Mario RPG over the strongest MGS, yeah. Mario RPG doing that and DK doing this means I'd be terrified of picking against Nintendo in any match I thought was debatable.

unless this is Tidus falling off the face of the earth in which case hoo boy my Sub-Zero over Auron pick is looking good
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:30:54 PM#339
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Do we even know for sure Zidane is any better than Cecil?


I'll take easily beating Ridley and doing pretty well on Dante over getting wrecked by Wrex and not beating Pit by that much
LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:32:14 PM#340
Mario RPG was really strong in 2004, too, though! It's still kinda weird to me that people think it's strange that Mario RPG is really popular though. It's got literally every ingredient GameFAQs demands out of a popular game.

(SFII LOST?!)
Zidane only got 90% on Spring Breeze Dancin' he's garbage
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what if people think zidane is tidus in the match pic

knuckles breaking 60% confirmed
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:35:04 PM#343
SwiftyDC 10/19/2018 8:35:50 PM#344
Super Mario RPG is good but Metal Gear Solid 3 got robbed.

I demand a recount.
Dilated Chemist
now that the fabled square-enix board vote is gone, time for the nintendo night vote to dominate

*cleans glasses*

seriously tidus what are you
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:37:02 PM#346
SwiftyDC posted...
Super Mario RPG is good but Metal Gear Solid 3 got robbed.

I demand a recount.


MGS3 > MGS1 is all it needed for that contest to be a success
Super Mario RPG making the Final Four of a contest was one of the best results ever.
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sohottahere 10/19/2018 8:41:22 PM#348
There are people on this board RIGHT NOW who believed that a pretty boy from the worst FF could even touch the EXPAND DONG.
cyko 10/19/2018 8:42:19 PM#349
It's all the Smash Bros. effect. Unless we get some rallies, this will be all Smash Bros characters, all the time. Realistically, you could have 18 of the final 32 characters - plus all 8 legends - be characters from Smash.

AND you could realistically have 12 or 13 of the 16 Division finalists be Smash characters -

Ganondorf
Donkey Kong???
Pikachu/ Yoshi
Poke Trainer Red
Peach???
Bowser/ Charizard
Kirby
Zelda
Fox (Waluigi??)
Bayonetta/ Pac-Man/ Rosalina/ Simon
Luigi
Mewtwo
Ryu

Now that I think about it, maybe that's why Sephiroth got left out of the Legends - because he's the only Noble Nine member that's NOT in Smash Ultimate....

edit.... Forgot about Crono.... Maybe he's next!
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 8:43:11 PM#350
I mean literally everyone is in Smash now so everyone has the Smash effect

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