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ZeldaTPLink 10/19/2018 9:56:46 AM#452
Ok so as of now, looking at Dante vs Cuphead, we have 21208 points, with a total of 13954 votes.

Putting that on an equation, the number of registered voters has to be 7254. So the number of non-registered voters is 6700.

Which means 52% of the voters are registered.
ExThaNemesis posted...
Lopen posted...
I guarantee you it's entirely because of how it's stylized and nothing related to the actual gameplay or story


If your game tries to do something different and Ulti thinks it failed, he will rail against it.


Just to bring up something that has been on my chest, but in the grand annals of opinions, I do not understand how someone could loathe Shadow of the Colossus THAT much. Okay, I'm a huge fan of the game (at least based on what I remember of it), but even people who dislike that game tend to admit that it has a lot going for it. To be fair though, Ulti can use whatever criteria he wants to decide how good or bad a game is.

Also, to be fair, a random guy saying a popular game is the worst game ever isn't nearly the same deal as something like Big Rigs which is widely considered to be one of the worst games ever. Also, I guess if Matt Ezero can defend the likes of Sonic '06, Sonic Boom, and Aliens: Colonial Marines then it probably shouldn't be surprising if someone hates an acclaimed game that much.

Anyway we just seem to be at a point where gaming opinions are wildly divergent (well, opinions in general, but that's another topic), and I think a lot of it has to do with older games seeming dated to some vs. newer games coddling the player too much to others, to summarize it as best I can.
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Persona is not bigger than Dragon Quest.

As much as I wish this were true...
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Persona is not bigger than Dragon Quest.

As much as I wish this were true...

It’s absolutely the truth.
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swordz9 10/19/2018 10:45:05 AM#457
DQ is bigger worldwide in that Japan alone has more DQ fans than Persona has worldwide, but in NA I wouldn’t be surprised if Persona has closed the gap or gone above it by now given DQ was pretty absent until 11 unless you count those weird spinoffs they were considering not even localizating. Main game console wise though it was a long time between DQ8 and 11 considering NA never got 10 and 9 was on the 3DS
Dragon Quest in Japan is big enough to where big releases are basically country wide holiday

In America obviously Persona eclipses DQ by a lot

Persona obviously still big in Japan but not near enough to get a holiday
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Averia 10/19/2018 10:49:25 AM#459
Surprisingly , it seems like Dragon Quest IX sold more units in Japan than P5 worldwide
Dragon Quest XI is also on par with P5
guffguy89 10/19/2018 10:52:08 AM#460
i wonder how many of those non-registered voters though are actually registered voters voting on other devices, etc.
Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest.
If youre forced to vote in all 4 matches, how come some matches have a few more votes than others?
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swordz9 10/19/2018 10:57:39 AM#462
guffguy89 posted...
i wonder how many of those non-registered voters though are actually registered voters voting on other devices, etc.

There could be some voting twice or more. There appears to be some sort of issue where people who already voted and saw the thanks for voting message are no longer seeing it and can somehow vote again
Mac Arrowny 10/19/2018 11:04:11 AM#463
Averia posted...
Surprisingly , it seems like Dragon Quest IX sold more units in Japan than P5 worldwide
Dragon Quest XI is also on par with P5


Yes, but for the sake of the contest you can basically just ignore Japan sales.
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 11:05:39 AM#464
NowItsAngeTime posted...
If youre forced to vote in all 4 matches, how come some matches have a few more votes than others?


Because you're not.
Averia 10/19/2018 11:06:50 AM#465
Mac Arrowny posted...
Averia posted...
Surprisingly , it seems like Dragon Quest IX sold more units in Japan than P5 worldwide
Dragon Quest XI is also on par with P5


Yes, but for the sake of the contest you can basically just ignore Japan sales.


I know but even if it doesn't translate into Contest strenght, I was still surprised,. I really expected P5 to have sold far more than DQ worldwide.
Are we talking in general or on GameFAQs? Dragon Quest is more popular in general, but on GameFAQs Persona is more popular. DQVIII only got 55% on Persona 3 after all.
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Score: 0/0
ExThaNemesis 10/19/2018 11:09:36 AM#467
Honestly? Pretty boring first day, all things told.

Hopefully Tidus and DK make up for it tomorrow.
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abdou 10/19/2018 11:10:25 AM#468
LeonhartFour posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
If youre forced to vote in all 4 matches, how come some matches have a few more votes than others?


Because you're not.


I remember seeing 'pick 3 more winners to lock in your votes' or something like that
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 11:10:39 AM#469
The first day usually isn't too exciting anyway. Just having the contest back is all the excitement we need anyway.
LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 11:11:22 AM#470
abdou posted...
I remember seeing 'pick 3 more winners to lock in your votes' or something like that


The format encourages you to vote for everyone, but you're not required to do so. I wouldn't be surprised if most voters thought you had to vote for everyone though.

I mean I vote for every match anyway but still
So what do you have to do to avoid voting for all 4.
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 11:16:31 AM#472
Actually, wait, it does look like you have to vote for everyone this time. SBAllen set it up in 2015 and 2017 to where it tried to get you to vote for everyone, but you could vote for as few as you wanted. I just remember lots of people thinking you had to vote for everyone in 2015 and 2017, too. I'm sure there's a workaround with a script or something this time around, but yeah.

I think forcing people to vote for everyone in order to vote could actually impact some matches. I feel like that helps the well known characters that people have at least heard of. Pictures could matter more than usual, too.

in other words Joker is even more boned than I thought
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Lopen 10/19/2018 11:17:58 AM#473
I feel like it might be tougher to vote stuff a match in a way that isn't blatant when you have to vote for four options. Monika's chances are probably dead with that in mind. Probably not enough prep time for some motivated mind to figure out how to crack that. Or it might just be as simple as RNGing the 3 other options but I don't really know how votes are processed from the form.
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abdou 10/19/2018 11:19:25 AM#474
So I just messed around with it a bit, you need to select all 4 winners for the 'lock votes' button to appear but when it does appear you can deselect the matches you don't want to cast a vote on and still be able to press the 'lock votes in'
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 11:22:04 AM#475
oh hey you can hover over the pictures and it'll show the character's full name and game so that's neat
LeonhartFour posted...

I think forcing people to vote for everyone in order to vote could actually impact some matches. I feel like that helps the well known characters that people have at least heard of. Pictures could matter more than usual, too.


I absolutely think this is gonna be a factor, and I'm suddenly glad I resisted the "Sans wins his fourpack" fanboy pick.
Now crack that combination:
27 99 23.
Lopen posted...
I feel like it might be tougher to vote stuff a match in a way that isn't blatant when you have to vote for four options. Monika's chances are probably dead with that in mind. Probably not enough prep time for some motivated mind to figure out how to crack that. Or it might just be as simple as RNGing the 3 other options but I don't really know how votes are processed from the form.


Nah they'll just vote for all the options. This probably helps Knuckles and Master Hand.
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Score: 0/0
abdou posted...
So I just messed around with it a bit, you need to select all 4 winners for the 'lock votes' button to appear but when it does appear you can deselect the matches you don't want to cast a vote on and still be able to press the 'lock votes in'


wow really? thats weird and dumb lol
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LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 11:36:03 AM#479
okay for trend charts my initial thinking is

Board Vote (0:00-0:05)
Power Hour (0:00-1:00)
Early Night Vote (1:00-6:00) (9 PM-2 AM)
Deep Night Vote (6:00-10:00) (2 AM-6 AM)
Morning Vote (10:00-16:00) (6 AM-12 PM)
Day Vote (16:00-24:00) (12 PM-8 PM)

Not sure if I should split the day vote into two parts or not. This is traditionally when the ASV begins, so I guess I'll monitor how things are going.
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actually wait browser are you on?

I'm on chrome and can't deselect
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Averia 10/19/2018 11:39:23 AM#481
LeonhartFour posted...
okay for trend charts my initial thinking is

Board Vote (0:00-0:05)
Power Hour (0:00-1:00)
Early Night Vote (1:00-6:00) (9 PM-2 AM)
Deep Night Vote (6:00-10:00) (2 AM-6 AM)
Morning Vote (10:00-16:00) (6 AM-12 PM)
Day Vote (16:00-24:00) (12 PM-8 PM)

Not sure if I should split the day vote into two parts or not. This is traditionally when the ASV begins, so I guess I'll monitor how things are going.


Aren't trends basically dead since at least 2013 ?
LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 11:40:54 AM#482
They're not as drastic as they used to be, but they're not dead.
pjbasis 10/19/2018 12:06:22 PM#483
Oxbridge 10/19/2018 12:18:52 PM#484
5am vs 1am makes no difference to me.

Side question: When was the last time someone who was leading with 3 hours to go went on to lose (ignoring rallies)?
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guffguy89 10/19/2018 12:19:17 PM#485
so I just noticed that when looking at individual battle results, it directs you to the poll of the day board on the bottom....I guess at least the main results forms directs you to the right place...
Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest.
LeonhartFour 10/19/2018 12:22:58 PM#486
Oxbridge posted...
5am vs 1am makes no difference to me.

Side question: When was the last time someone who was leading with 3 hours to go went on to lose (ignoring rallies)?


Charizard/Mega Man, I guess...?

Doesn't look like it happened in 2015.
De- 10/19/2018 1:11:26 PM#487
I stand corrected about the impressions on Chloe.

Then00bAvenger posted...
And Lee lost to Mr Game and Watch


If it was done my way, I would let Lee lose to G&W. That's an acceptable loss.
But I could be wrong...
Man, I have no real sense of how much time is left in these matches with this new start time unless I just stop and think about it.
This one isn't full yet...

So Ganondorf is doing quite well, though it could be due to Neku getting weaker.

Too bad he is going to get fed to Link, at least there's the losers bracket
CBX - Today's Winners: Dante, Lightning, Chun-Li, Ganondorf
Score: 0/0
De- 10/19/2018 1:39:22 PM#490
I need a reminder of a non-Undertale indie character that stood a chance in these tournaments.
But I could be wrong...
if Ganondorf absolutely has to win a division I'm all for seeing if Link can break 90% on him this time
Did the Kobe Battle return, now that it's bracket time?
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De- posted...
I need a reminder of a non-Undertale indie character that stood a chance in these tournaments.


Shovel Knight might win a match
CBX - Today's Winners: Dante, Lightning, Chun-Li, Ganondorf
Score: 0/0
charmander6000 posted...
This one isn't full yet...

So Ganondorf is doing quite well, though it could be due to Neku getting weaker.

Too bad he is going to get fed to Link, at least there's the losers bracket


A lot of people are angry/confused of loseres bracket it the best case scenario is the fact that characters that would be inevitably get SFF f***ed by a Noble 9er can get a chance of redemption at a weaker opponent.
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If you had to rank the four losers, it's Spyro > Cuphead > Neku > Chloe, right?

Seems pretty clear cut, but maybe someone disagrees!
swirIdude 10/19/2018 1:59:59 PM#498
LeonhartFour posted...
If you had to rank the four losers, it's Spyro > Cuphead > Neku > Chloe, right?

Seems pretty clear cut, but maybe someone disagrees!


That's the correct ranking!
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NowItsAngeTime posted...
charmander6000 posted...
This one isn't full yet...

So Ganondorf is doing quite well, though it could be due to Neku getting weaker.

Too bad he is going to get fed to Link, at least there's the losers bracket


A lot of people are angry/confused of loseres bracket it the best case scenario is the fact that characters that would be inevitably get SFF f***ed by a Noble 9er can get a chance of redemption at a weaker opponent.


The whole contest should have been a double elimination, so when a character gets rallied we'll still have a contest going on.
CBX - Today's Winners: Dante, Lightning, Chun-Li, Ganondorf
Score: 0/0
De- 10/19/2018 2:01:51 PM#500
Thanks for the intel, y'all.
But I could be wrong...

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