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How much of a boost is Bowser going to get, even without Bowsette pics? Not_Wylvane |
If the contest was going on right now Bowser would win it. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
UItimaterializer posted... That’s not true at all. It's absolutely true. People are always quick to blame SFF whenever there's an over- or underperformance. Every match has overlap. Mario overlaps with everyone because everyone knows Mario. It's just a matter of whether or not it's disproportionate overlap. The reason people were calling for SFF in Mario/Mega Man was because people thought Mega Man should've done better. That's really all there is to it. Maybe they're right because Mega Man seemed better in 2010 than he had in a few years, when he was down near the bottom of the Noble Nine with Sonic and Crono. If Mario's 58% was legit, it'd mean that Mario was either probably the clear #2 in 2010 or Mega Man was still down there with Sonic and Crono. Who knows. 2010 had so much SFF (along with Charizard's bandwagon) that it's hard to tell where everyone is at the top aside from Link, Cloud, Snake, and Samus. Now I'm not saying Mario didn't overperform. There's probably a good chance he did, but just saying there must have been SFF simply because overlap exists is incorrect. (edited 10/2/2018 1:38:55 PM) |
I
think you're confusing two different things. "Every match has overlap"
entirely different from Mario v Mega Man where they're both primarily
seen as 1A Nintendo characters. Mega Man is right there with Mario,
Link, Samus, and the like for Nintendo ID'd characters. There is no way
Mario didn't SFF him. To put it a better way. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2441-hyrule-division-semifinal-the-legend-of-zelda-vs-mega-man-x https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1750-hyrule-division-round-2-link-vs-ganondorf Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
It's
not like Mario broke 60% on Mega Man. If you are arguing that Mario
should have only gotten 55% and not 58% against Mega Man then the
disproportionate-ness part of SFF loses meaning. I guess this turns a bit into a grey area; how much does a result need to be skewed for it to be called SFF? Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru |
If
Mario did SFF Mega Man, it was barely anything. A 2-3% overperformance
could fall into a "margin of error" type of random variance, honestly.
Just because two characters share a fanbase doesn't mean there will be
SFF. We've seen exceptions to this many times. You're just assuming
there must have been an overperformance because it's happened before
(and with a Series Contest result? Seriously?) when there have been
multiple times where it hasn't happened. |
The effect is usually lessened later in a contest. Usually. We've seen some goofy numbers late in these things. Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n |
Late
matches are where numbers tend to be wonkier than ever because of
bandwagons and things like that. Mario gave up 46.5% to Charizard the
very next round, and then Link SFF'd Mario harder than he's ever SFF'd
him a round later. (edited 10/2/2018 2:44:49 PM) |
Does it matter, Mario's not even an elite character compared to someone like Noble Niner Vivi. Not_Wylvane |
yikes get ready for Nintendo domination Don't they always do better with the registered voters? |
Squall looks to be on route for another rematch with Solid Snake. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
I’m kinda into this bracket setup. Some good matches here. |
Master Hand killing one of my favorite FF characters again |
Is this going to be Knuckles' first loss to a FF character in the first round? Come watch me on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/gameryogi |
Cecil finally gonna win a match!? |
wow, just saw Hat Kid made it in she's going to get 5% on Squall but I'm just happy she made the bracket. Hello again. |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Squall looks to be on route for another rematch with Solid Snake. more like en route to lose to zelda get ready for NintendoFAQs: Breath of the Wild Edition xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Yuri Lowell didn't make the bracket -_- but overall I like this bracket. also 2 votes for registered users is a great idea to counter the rallies. ... |
Zero vs Pikachu is on November 16th. Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu releases on the same day. RIP Zero. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
every ultimate newcomer has made it in lmao |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Zero vs Pikachu is on November 16th. Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu releases on the same day. Isn't that the game everyone hates (or will hate, I guess)? Congrats to 2017 Guru champ BKSheikah! |
xp1337 posted... Team Rocket Elite posted...Squall looks to be on route for another rematch with Solid Snake. He should be too far ahead, but double votes for Nintendo fans fives me pause. |
The people who come to the site because of the game won't be people who hate it so it still benefits Pikachu in a close match. This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! |
Some of these matches... Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru |
Just at first glance there look to be a lot of potentially close matches in Round 1. Nice. Submit your bracket for the GameFAQs Character Battle X contest!: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/cbx |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Zero vs Pikachu is on November 16th. Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu releases on the same day. RIP Zero. Pikachu likely would've won anyway ISFJ Big on Visual Novels, Anime, Video games. Twitter: superange128 Planned 2018 Fighting Game Mains: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgH4MCHVMAAKV9l.png |
Wow, this bracket is tough. Dilated Chemist |
As
someone who has played in competitive games/esports and knows of the
double elimination thing I think it's interesting that they are starting
it in this contest in the top 16 in the legends. I think it's a cool
idea for basically only the most popular characters What are you guys thoughts on this addition? ISFJ Big on Visual Novels, Anime, Video games. Twitter: superange128 Planned 2018 Fighting Game Mains: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgH4MCHVMAAKV9l.png |
i've barely looked at this thing but i know already that i don't f***ing care i knew crash would actually have an easier time winning if he got a bad seed i am sinking with the S.S. Bandicoot Born to lose, live to win! (edited 10/2/2018 4:52:05 PM) |
How likely is D.Va to get a big rally going? I have no idea if she loses in round 1 or makes it to Squall. Hello again. |
I
gave a hard look at Aloy/D.Va because I don't know if that would
require that strong of a rally to materialize to get past that match.
And Fox/Jill isn't that tough a R2 either. That's definitely a pretty
soft spot in the bracket and where you'd like to be if you're rally
dependent. Took Aloy still but that could go south real quick. xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? (edited 10/2/2018 4:49:42 PM) |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Squall looks to be on route for another rematch with Solid Snake. well it's double elimination so who knows I'm actually pretty excited about this but I don't really have time to analyze it yet |
Shonen_Bat posted... How likely is D.Va to get a big rally going? I have no idea if she loses in round 1 or makes it to Squall. All a out the overwatch bandwagon She will win round 1 I bet 29/09/18 |
actually Squall can get Sonic in the losers bracket so he can still beat a Noble Niner this contest I'll take it |
Prominent-ish snubs from characters who made it into 2013: -Squirtle (called it! Charizard got in though.) -Pokemon Trainer Blue (Not sure anyone thought he was coming back?) -Zack Fair -Rikku -Meta-Knight -Altair (we knew this franchise was way downhill on gamefaqs and nobody really cares about Altair so...) -Kratos Aurion -Jak (Looks like Draven killed his contest career) -Ratchet -Protoman -Big Daddy -Duke Nukem -Marth -Laharl -Midna -Nightmare (after his 2013 performance it's like who cares but I guess he did have Soul Calibur VI coming up) -Yuri Lowell -Yu Narukami -Raiden -CATS (if you count the 2010 vote-ins, this is the first time he's missed a character battle completely; sad day) -The entire GTA franchise -Morrigan Duke Nukem, Marth, Niko, Zack, Altair...Lots of Kefka opponents have gone missing! Only notable returner I can see that missed 2013 is Chris Redfield. [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO BKSheikah NO PEACE] (edited 10/2/2018 5:02:53 PM) |
I think the potential for rematches during the same contest season could produce some really interesting results. Agent Triple Zero at your service! BKSheikah is the new greatone. |
This time around I'm not going to think much about it. Consider my bracket LOCKED! Dilated Chemist |
No Trevor Phillips boooo. I'm actually quite interested to see how Geralt and 2B will do. Most of the "new" characters (although Geralt isn't that new) don't do well here, but I feel like they might have some chance at being worth anything. How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious! |
I
have Geralt winning his division before going out to Sonic +
Squall/Zelda. I'm pretty high on his strength though. Could definitely
lose to Auron. 2B's path is pretty set to me. Gets blown up by Bowser. I guess if you're really down on her you could have her lose to Ness but there's really not much room for her to maneuver. xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
AxemRedRanger posted... Prominent-ish snubs from characters who made it into 2013: There's no bigger snub than my man Gilgamesh! n2k |
AxemRedRanger posted... -Yu Narukami Yu is in He's just against Vivi Round 1 and screwed ISFJ Big on Visual Novels, Anime, Video games. Twitter: superange128 Planned 2018 Fighting Game Mains: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgH4MCHVMAAKV9l.png |
oh, right ...I just noticed Guybrush is finally gone too. [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO BKSheikah NO PEACE] |
So,
if you are scared of Bowsette possibly causing a Bowser boost, he's
certainly got a path here. He's got to be the favorite to win his
division, and then draws Crono. If he loses, he draws
Sora/Kefka/Alucard/BigBoss. He's definitely got time to build momentum,
or let the craze die. Agent Triple Zero at your service! BKSheikah is the new greatone. |
I feel like somehow Kefka/L-Block might be the most important first round match. |
Well I think the actual issue is if Bowsette is even allowed as a match pic since it isn't even official art. ISFJ Big on Visual Novels, Anime, Video games. Twitter: superange128 Planned 2018 Fighting Game Mains: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgH4MCHVMAAKV9l.png |
_SecretSquirrel posted... So, if you are scared of Bowsette possibly causing a Bowser boost, he's certainly got a path here. He's got to be the favorite to win his division, and then draws Crono. If he loses, he draws Sora/Kefka/Alucard/BigBoss. He's definitely got time to build momentum, or let the craze die. Case in point I took Bowser over Crono and Cloud If this ends up being my wacky pick this time so be it This bracket is hard man. Among other things I can see Tifa, Mewtwo, X and Luigi all winning Division 7. Born to lose, live to win! |
NowItsAngeTime posted... Well I think the actual issue is if Bowsette is even allowed as a match pic since it isn't even official art. It's not allowed. There's no real issue there. |
Aqua/Quiet Anybody think this could be interesting? Or am I giving a MGSV character too much credit. Dilated Chemist |
NowItsAngeTime posted... Well I think the actual issue is if Bowsette is even allowed as a match pic since it isn't even official art. He's certainly not getting Bowsette in his match pics, but it can't hurt being all over social media at the moment anyway. That being said, official art of the Super Crown being snuck into a freeform match pic is a very real possibility of harnessing the meme. Agent Triple Zero at your service! BKSheikah is the new greatone. (edited 10/2/2018 5:22:34 PM) |
Bowsette might help Peach more than Bowser, crazy as that sounds. Dilated Chemist |
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