pjbasis 9/29/2018 12:35:04 PM#301
If you need a fixing for some characters being voted on with percentages the Final Fantasy subreddit is doing their own popularity contest.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfh0ARAdS8OWsuRVBafJGtf29WI0kSHBiABBpVsk5bwVvTmLQ/viewanalytics
LeonhartFour 9/29/2018 2:17:07 PM#302
foxhead84 9/29/2018 8:48:27 PM#303
Over/Under: We will have the bracket by next Friday?
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LeonhartFour 9/29/2018 9:00:34 PM#304
Playrate poll for the original Fallout:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7219-

I don't expect the original game to have a very good playrate, but it would provide a rough estimate for the playrate of Fallout 3 (the strongest game in the series).
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foxhead84 posted...
Over/Under: We will have the bracket by next Friday?

Under
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LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 12:20:12 AM#307
in light of this RDR2 hype I wonder if John Marston will even make the bracket
spooky96 10/1/2018 12:22:11 AM#308
I nominated him because I really thought he won't make the bracket.
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We don't even know the size of the field yet, so if Allen decided to do something the size of CBIX, there's no telling who could make the bracket.
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Wreath 10/1/2018 4:57:35 AM#310
_SecretSquirrel posted...
We don't even know the size of the field yet, so if Allen decided to do something the size of CBIX, there's no telling who could make the bracket.


1028 characters.

4 way battles
29/09/18
Oh my god, no more fourways. Please. Like, the ones we got were enjoyable to varying extents, but...just no.
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Wreath 10/1/2018 6:13:01 AM#312
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Oh my god, no more fourways. Please. Like, the ones we got were enjoyable to varying extents, but...just no.


I'm not saying I enjoyed them

I do think 3 ways would be cool though
29/09/18
We already had 3ways in 2013.

It was not cool!
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Why not just do a few handicap 2-on-1 matches for the Noble Nine characters to get a Round 1 bye in the tournament?
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Wreath 10/1/2018 6:59:47 AM#316
Do you guys really find 1v1 as entertaining as anything else?

Not that we have that many options I guess
29/09/18
bwburke94 10/1/2018 8:53:27 AM#317
Anything that isn't 1v1 is bad, because SBAllen has a weird fetish for LFF.
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Why not just do preliminary matches between eight of the Noble Nine characters, before the actual tournament kicks off?

The first 8 matches are matches including Sephiroth, Cloud, Crono, Sonic, Samus, Snake, Mega Man and Mario?

Depending on how they perform in the preliminary poll? They will be ranked by seed via strength. #1 is seeded based on he/she did in the poll, who comes in last is seeded #8 in the poll.

lol retire Link lol

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LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 9:35:14 AM#319
Wreath posted...
Do you guys really find 1v1 as entertaining as anything else?

Not that we have that many options I guess


Much more entertaining, yes.
bwburke94 posted...
Anything that isn't 1v1 is bad, because SBAllen has a weird fetish for LFF.


It's not SBAllen's fault that GameFAQs has narrow tastes.
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bwburke94 10/1/2018 10:05:08 AM#321
PrestonStarry2 posted...
Why not just do preliminary matches between eight of the Noble Nine characters, before the actual tournament kicks off?

The first 8 matches are matches including Sephiroth, Cloud, Crono, Sonic, Samus, Snake, Mega Man and Mario?

Depending on how they perform in the preliminary poll? They will be ranked by seed via strength. #1 is seeded based on he/she did in the poll, who comes in last is seeded #8 in the poll.

lol retire Link lol

Crono would be a #3 seed at best in a 2010-style 1v1 bracket. (He was a #4 in 2010, but his NN status alone gets him noms.)
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pjbasis 10/1/2018 11:53:43 AM#322
I liked fourways, but 1v1 is still the best.

Multiple matches a day alleviates the biggest concern there.
Wreath 10/1/2018 12:30:11 PM#323
pjbasis posted...
I liked fourways, but 1v1 is still the best.

Multiple matches a day alleviates the biggest concern there.


Ya I mean I'd be happy with 2 separate 1v1 matches over a 24hr period
29/09/18
LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 12:34:42 PM#324
#161 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/14/2013 6:41:54 PM | message detail
It might well just be a mix of new-age Mario weakness and end-of-gen fatigue. Galaxy 2's inevitable early loss in the next Games Contest is going to be so disappointing to see though - if you ask me, it's the best platformer ever and the biggest reason to think Nintendo's still got 'it' around.


look at all the prescience in this post
Haste_2 10/1/2018 12:47:13 PM#325
How about four four-way matches (edit: per twelve hours)!

If there were 1024 characters, round 1 could be done in 32 days!
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that bracket would be so full of fodder

like 80% of round 1 would be a toss up, imagine actually seeing caim/zero (999)/spring breeze dancin'/tanner in R1

although maybe at this point that would be a good thing? if he's gonna go that direction might as well let non-VG characters in
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LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 1:04:11 PM#327
Haste_2 posted...
(edit: per twelve hours)


get out

12 hour matches were bad and only invented so we could have a bigger bracket without the contest lasting for four months

no longer needed
i want a five year long contest plz

by the time it's done we'll be ready for CBXI
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LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 3:12:19 PM#329
so what is Mario's best performance since Mario/Samus 2005?

legitimately curious what you all think it is
Big Bob 10/1/2018 3:25:47 PM#330
I'd say Mario/Bowser vs. Link/Ganon in the Rivals contest. He finally broke 40%. The rivalry probably changed the numbers a bit, but it was a deserved second place.
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Mario > Crono > Mega Man in 2013

Though I guess that technically shouldn't count

Mario crushing some fodder I guess.
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LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 3:30:33 PM#332
LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 3:32:28 PM#333
charmander6000 posted...
Mario > Crono > Mega Man in 2013

Though I guess that technically shouldn't count

Mario crushing some fodder I guess.


But I mean, was that a great performance? Pikachu looked like he could've possibly beaten Crono even if Magus weren't in that match. It would've been darn close either way.

I'm just trying to ask the question of why so many people just assume Mario is the clear #2 now when he hasn't had an unquestionably great performance in who knows how long.

That being said, Nintendo in general probably rebounds somewhat from the last few contests now that the Switch has turned the company's fortunes around some, but still.
Mario has not been impressive, generally. People just kinda doubt Metal Gear maintaining its strength and figure there’s no way Samus beats Mario so he falls into #2 by default.

His best contest since 2005 is probably 2007? Think he matched his 2005 number on Sephiroth and held up better than he ever has to link sff. He had Mario galaxy hype and generally positive thoughts on Nintendo behind him then, so that level of strength might be about what i’d expect a year out from odyssey with the switch still thought well of.
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LeonhartFour posted...
so what is Mario's best performance since Mario/Samus 2005?

legitimately curious what you all think it is

Probably 58% on Mega Man looking through the archives.
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It's not like Cloud or Solid Snake have had much since 2015 while Mario is coming off of Odyssey. I think it's just a default position for most people to have Mario ranking high.
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LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 4:29:26 PM#337
EVERYONE IS BACK is enough hype for Snake

I wish we had gotten a Character Battle around the time the FFVIIR trailer came out. That thing currently has 15 million views. The Remake getting mired in typical Square-Enix shenanigans has probably nullified whatever it could've done for Cloud and Seph at this point.

_SecretSquirrel posted...
Probably 58% on Mega Man looking through the archives.


But yeah, this is probably it.
Advokaiser 10/1/2018 4:56:59 PM#338
I've been away for a few days but I still wanted to comment on some things:

Wreath posted...
Also random thought I mean I'm so pumped for a contest dont get me wrong.

But I'll be 10x as pumped when we do our next game of the decade contest as I'm sure like 75% of the matches will be so unpredictable

Edit - except the fact breath of the wild will win

Spoiler alert ?


Smash Ultimate could have a pretty good shot, unless something happens a la GotD where Majora's Mask beat Brawl.

Wreath posted...
Do you guys really find 1v1 as entertaining as anything else?

Not that we have that many options I guess


I honestly can't speak for 4-ways since I haven't been around here enough to see a contest with that format, but like 60% of why I enjoy contests is because of the Oracle, so as much as how interesting 3-ways were back in 2013, the format sucked hard in terms of the Oracle since it was pretty much impossible to predict that thing. That was the only year I didn't participate (except for the first few matches) because of it. That being said, 3-way battles felt a little unbalanced since only one character could advance at a time, but the concept was still refreshing and allowed more characters, which is always good I guess.
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Haste_2 10/1/2018 10:09:16 PM#339
Did Mario SFF Mega Man in that match? I wasn't around during CBVIII, so I don't know what the consensus on that is.
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LeonhartFour 10/1/2018 10:17:20 PM#340
A lot of people think so, but it's honestly hard to say. Some people think Mega Man should've done better directly, so SFF was assumed, but who knows.
Haste_2 10/1/2018 11:03:45 PM#341
There was way too many SFF matches in CBVIII, as well as CBIX. I would love if it if Sailor Bacon would put a reasonable cap on characters by company, but that's probably not going to happen.
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ctesjbuvf 10/2/2018 1:52:04 AM#342
I think Mario fought pretty greatly against SFF back in 2008. He has been extremely unlucky with SFF in multiways in general.
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LeonhartFour posted...
A lot of people think so, but it's honestly hard to say. Some people think Mega Man should've done better directly, so SFF was assumed, but who knows.

It’s silly to think otherwise when they have like 99% overlap. Does anyone care about a single non-Nintendo Mega Man game?
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LeonhartFour 10/2/2018 5:24:16 AM#345
UItimaterializer posted...
It’s silly to think otherwise when they have like 99% overlap.


spoilers every character has overlap but it doesn't mean they SFF each other even when the overlap is heavy (such as Cloud/Sephiroth)

Mario has 99% overlap with everyone

is this your first contest little fella
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At best Mario only SFF Mega Man by a couple of points, it's almost within the range of error. People were just high on Mega Man in 2010 after breaking 70% on a sprite Ryu Hayabusa (he also had a decent performance on Zack Fair too)
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LeonhartFour posted...
UItimaterializer posted...
It’s silly to think otherwise when they have like 99% overlap.


spoilers every character has overlap but it doesn't mean they SFF each other even when the overlap is heavy (such as Cloud/Sephiroth)

Mario has 99% overlap with everyone

is this your first contest little fella

That’s not true at all.
Get the X out.
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Wreath 10/2/2018 7:32:03 AM#348
UItimaterializer posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
UItimaterializer posted...
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It’s silly to think otherwise when they have like 99% overlap.


spoilers every character has overlap but it doesn't mean they SFF each other even when the overlap is heavy (such as Cloud/Sephiroth)

Mario has 99% overlap with everyone

is this your first contest little fella

That’s not true at all.


For mario it kinda is this is Nintendofaqs
29/09/18
mario and pac-man are kind of the same thing, everyone knows who they are and everyone has played and probably likes their games

mario is just a super pac-man
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Wreath 10/2/2018 8:08:18 AM#350
ZenOfThunder posted...
mario and pac-man are kind of the same thing, everyone knows who they are and everyone has played and probably likes their games

mario is just a super pac-man


Well said, I feel this way.

Even then I'd still vote mario > cloud because f*** FFVII
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