Team Rocket Elite 6/14/2018 6:39:54 PM#251
By rallying for Waluigi.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
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It's occurred to me that would be snubs if we got a 64-character Smash only bracket.
Agent Triple Zero at your service!
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Not_Wylvane 6/15/2018 12:55:56 AM#254
Team Rocket Elite posted...
By rallying for Waluigi.

If the contest does start soon, I struggle to see Waluigi not winning it all.
Not_Wylvane
Advokaiser posted...
I mean...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6235-which-is-best-all-time-super-smash-bros-game

Based on this poll, I think Brawl is LFFing Smash 4.


Now that Super Smash Bros. Ultimate has been confirmed, I'm thinking SSBU will have the same effect on Smash 4 that Smash 4 had on Brawl. When Smash 4 came out, it basically made Brawl irrelevant. SSBU should likely do the same thing to Smash 4, given the poor ownership of the Wii U, so not as many people played the Wii U version. I know Smash 4 was on 3DS, but it was an inferior version to the Wii U one.

Assuming SSBU turns out to be an extremely good game like Melee or Smash 4, there's no reason why SSBU wouldn't be able to challenge Melee for the title of the strongest Smash game other than the fact Melee has the benefit of nostalgia on its side. Nostalgia is the biggest obstacle that could prevent SSBU from being stronger than Melee. SSBU will need to have a combination of high playrate (over 60%) and being even more well-liked than Melee to overcome the lack of nostalgia.
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
It's occurred to me that would be snubs if we got a 64-character Smash only bracket.


so who would be most likely to be cut?
Bro nostalgia on this site trumps all
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pjbasis 6/15/2018 11:59:11 AM#258
Some characters are blatantly the same. Just cut out young link, toon link, sheik, Dr Mario, etc
pjbasis 6/15/2018 12:03:56 PM#260
I think each Mii Fighter is their own character.

If we must we could have play-in matches...
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Characters with the lowest support during the nomination period.
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that's not what I was asking

who would you bet on being the least popular ones
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The_Ctes 6/15/2018 2:45:29 PM#265
Dark Pit would be the most obvious one to snub
Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone.
NowItsAngeTime posted...
Bro nostalgia on this site trumps all


While this is true for most cases, SSBU is not your normal game here because it has every playable character to ever appear in a previous Smash game. A Smash game that includes every playable character should theoretically be considered kryptonite to all of the previous Smash games. Given this game's selling point, how can Melee possibly compete against that? (nostalgia be damned)
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Woo ssb port
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Allen should just do a 64-character tournament with the Smash Ultimate roster minus Dark Pit

or the champion (Cloud) then fights Link after the finals
Is this Elite Beat Agents 2?
Are you sure Cloud would be the champion with Mario, Samus, and Snake around?

also take regular Link out of the bracket and who knows what happens to Toon Link and Young Link...!
LeonhartFour posted...
that's not what I was asking

who would you bet on being the least popular ones


In terms of nominations? That'll be interesting. Would people nominate base on who they like the best in SSB vs. overall? Would people nominate all three Links? Would non-Nintendo characters be overseeded? If we can only nominate five characters someone like Daisy may suffer due to the number of Mario characters.

I also assume more characters will be added...
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1. Mario
2. Donkey Kong
3. Link
4. Samus
5. Yoshi
6. Kirby
7. Fox
8. Pikachu
9. Luigi
10. Ness
11. Captain Falcon
12. Jigglypuff
13. Peach
13ε Daisy
14. Bowser
15. Ice Climbers
16. Sheik
17. Zelda
18. Dr. Mario
19. Pichu
20. Falco
21. Marth
21ε Lucina
22. Young Link
23. Ganondorf
24. Mewtwo
25. Roy
26. Mr. Game and Watch
27. Meta Knight
28. Pit
28ε Dark Pit
29. Zero Suit Samus
30. Wario
31. Snake
32. Ike
33-35. Pokémon Trainer (Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard)
36. Diddy Kong
37. Lucas
38. Sonic
39. King Dedede
40. Olimar
41. Lucario
42. R.O.B.
43. Toon Link
44. Wolf
45. Villager
46. Mega Man
47. Wii Fit Trainer
48. Rosalina and Luma
49. Little Mac
50. Greninja
51-53. Mii Fighter (Brawler/Swordfighter/Gunner)
54. Palutena
55. Pac-Man
56. Robin
57. Shulk
58. Bowser Jr.
59. Duck Hunt
60. Ryu
61. Cloud
62. Corrin
63. Bayonetta
64. Inkling
65. Ridley

That's 68 total. We can subtract Toon Link, Young Link, Dr. Mario, Zero Suit Samus, and two of the Miis (I do think Miis as a single character actually has some merit). Add in a second Ice Climber (Nana has made a contest individually) and Pokemon Trainer Red for an even 64 without excluding any Echo Characters. Sheik is probably not going to fly as a separate character either, and could be replaced with the winner of a Koopa Kid battle royal. Of course, this all depends if you are thinking of this as a traditional Character Battle involving Smash characters, or a flat out Best Smash Character ever where these different variations of the same character would be allowed.
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bwburke94 6/15/2018 9:02:16 PM#272
Koopa Kid is not in Smash.
All your old meme are belong to me.
That might be interesting... I'd still rather a game contest but
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The_Ctes 6/16/2018 10:08:09 AM#274
bwburke94 posted...
Koopa Kid is not in Smash.


Is Koopa Kid the Mario Party one?
Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone.
you know I just realized we haven't had a single Character Battle since SSB4 came out

good thing we've got SSBU hype for this next one I guess
swirIdude 6/16/2018 8:55:14 PM#276
LeonhartFour posted...
you know I just realized we haven't had a single Character Battle since SSB4 came out

good thing we've got SSBU hype for this next one I guess


You've heard of Brawlfear, now get ready for ULTIMATEFEAR!
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
bwburke94 6/17/2018 2:29:18 AM#277
The_Ctes posted...
bwburke94 posted...
Koopa Kid is not in Smash.


Is Koopa Kid the Mario Party one?

Yes.
All your old meme are belong to me.
swirIdude posted...
You've heard of Brawlfear, now get ready for ULTIMATEFEAR!


There's also SMASH4FEAR, but I didn't think Smash 4 would have boosted character strengths like Brawl or Melee. Smash 4 was severely hampered by the poor ownership of the Wii U and while it was available on 3DS, the 3DS version was inferior to the Wii U one. A significant amount of time had also passed by since the release of Smash 4, making it even more difficult to prove or disprove the existence of SMASH4FEAR if we had gotten a Character Battle last year.
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actually this is the first poll that's ever had Goku in it so here's a preview of the all fictional Character Battle we're getting soon

although he may be getting Toriyama LFF'd by Crono
Team Rocket Elite 6/17/2018 9:12:50 PM#281
Crono is struggling to fend of Waluigi and the rallies aren't even getting serious yet.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
actually Sora getting into SSBU would be pretty interesting to see because he'd have Smash hype and KH3 hype behind him simultaneously
Team Rocket Elite 6/17/2018 9:20:38 PM#284
LeonhartFour posted...
Chrono Trigger going to be undone by Smash fanatics yet again


At least he didn't get snubbed from the poll like Geno did.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
hey man it couldn't be helped

we had to have Spring Man on this poll

also this is a pretty impressive showing for 2B all things considered

makes me want to nominate her for the Character Battle
Goooo banjo
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WhiteLens 6/17/2018 9:33:53 PM#287
Oh god, Waluigi memeing his way to the top.
pjbasis 6/17/2018 11:31:05 PM#288
LeonhartFour posted...
actually this is the first poll that's ever had Goku in it so here's a preview of the all fictional Character Battle we're getting soon

although he may be getting Toriyama LFF'd by Crono


Goku's still holding up fairly well in this poll and is ahead of several characters here. Although an all-fictional Character Battle would likely demand a bracket larger than 128 characters to avoid snubbing characters that actually debuted in video games.
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I expected Banjo to win this poll, why anyone would want Luigi is beyond me.
Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. DpOblivion > Me
This result looks pretty legit, I don't think there's any stuffing.
HaRRicH 6/18/2018 7:20:11 AM#292
I didn't ever expect to see Crono > Sora > Sephiroth > Squall in a poll before...huh. Nothing to take too seriously, but this'll look good for anybody favoring Crono for an upset in the next Character Battle.

And the one true Nintendo character winning a poll about a Nintendo fanservice game? SHOCKED. I am a little surprised he's actually winning over some big names...LFF though, plus I may have underestimated the meme.
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
https://imgur.com/Dr4NAeq
spooky96 6/18/2018 7:40:19 AM#293
I'd pick Crono over Septhiroth without any second thoughts.
HaRRicH 6/18/2018 7:52:34 AM#294
I probably wouldn't take that, though I can see why agter CT's last run.

I'm also including in my disbelief how Sora's beating Sephiroth and scorching Squall after all the close losses he's taken to Squall.
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
https://imgur.com/Dr4NAeq
I think people are taking into account the chances the characters have in appearing in SSBU. Yes Waluigi is confirmed to be an assist trophy, but if you didn't know that then he would be the most likely of the group (though with that logic Spring Man should also be dominating the poll, but no one cares about ARMS here).

So characters like Crono and Banjo obviously get a boost since they have ties to Nintendo while Master Chief and Kratos are getting killed for not having any ties. Sephiroth and Squall are also seen as less likely to appear since Cloud is already representing Final Fantasy (though I guess someone from FFVI or under would still have a shot)
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LusterSoldier posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
actually this is the first poll that's ever had Goku in it so here's a preview of the all fictional Character Battle we're getting soon

although he may be getting Toriyama LFF'd by Crono


Goku's still holding up fairly well in this poll and is ahead of several characters here. Although an all-fictional Character Battle would likely demand a bracket larger than 128 characters to avoid snubbing characters that actually debuted in video games.


How many fictional characters do you think would make the bracket? Even if they make it clear to the nominators that anyone that appeared in a video game is eligible I feel we wouldn't see more than 20 in a 128 bracket.
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
charmander6000 posted...
How many fictional characters do you think would make the bracket? Even if they make it clear to the nominators that anyone that appeared in a video game is eligible I feel we wouldn't see more than 20 in a 128 bracket.


I think what we could do is have a 144 character bracket, with 16 of those spots being reserved for fictional characters. It works by having a Wildcard Round, similar to what we had in the Best Year in Gaming contest. This my proposal for the set-up in each division:

https://i.imgtc.com/EgpIGXz.png

We would have 8 divisions like in past 1v1 contests that have 128 characters. However, each division features 2 Wildcard Round matches where a fictional character faces off against a 13 seed or 14 seed, and the winner would face a 4 seed or 3 seed respectively in Round 1. The fictional character that gets matched up against the 14 seed has an easier bracket path than getting matched up against a 13 seed. Getting matched up against the 14 seed in the Wildcard Round means you don't have to face off against the division's 1 seed until you get to Round 4, while the 13 seed character would meet up with the 1 seed in Round 3.

During the process of creating the contest bracket, the fictional characters are placed into a separate group from those who debuted in a video game. The 16 most nominated fictional characters (after barring ineligible characters) would then be placed into the Wildcard Round slots. The 8 most nominated fictional characters will face off against a 14 seed in the Wildcard Round, while the other 8 fictional characters face off against a 13 seed instead.
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I don't see why this is needed, just mix in the fictional characters with everyone else. Is losing the 15/16 seeds really an issue?
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charmander6000 posted...
I don't see why this is needed, just mix in the fictional characters with everyone else. Is losing the 15/16 seeds really an issue?


If we mix in the fictional characters with everyone else, that means we have only 112 remaining slots for characters who debuted in video games. It's been nearly 5 years since the previous Character Battle, so the past 5 years worth of video games could provide us with some notable characters who deserve a chance to make a Character Battle without having to compete against fictional characters to see who can make it into a 128 character bracket. Placing all of the fictional characters into a series of Wildcard Round matches still allows for a bracket that contains 128 characters who debuted in video games. I would like to see fictional characters in a Character Battle, but it should not come at the expense of those who debuted in a video game.
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GameFAQs doesn't care about new games.

Like who would be the strongest character from the last five years?
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