UltimaterializerX 5/24/2018 2:32:53 PM#151
I maintain Tanner was SFFd by Snake.
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Advokaiser 5/24/2018 3:02:55 PM#152
UltimaterializerX posted...
I maintain Tanner was SFFd by Snake.


If this is true (which I think it is, because both are badasses that can use a wide range of weaponry, among other similarities), I'd be pretty happy. Snake's just better dressed and is overall more fleshed-out as a character.
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I mean it doesn't really matter either way

Tanner would've been bad fodder regardless. Snake just made him look a little worse possibly.
Pretty much. Like Ms. Pac-Man was probably SFF by Mega Man in 2002, but she'll still be fodder if given a fair match.
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
i was probably going to do a nomination rally for my boy Metal Sonic because "why not"

metal sonic is 2 cool

is anyone else planning a nomination rally or is everything going to be last minute
Is this Elite Beat Agents 2?
Someone should make a game that includes SBAllen so that we can nominate him.
Not_Wylvane
Not_Wylvane posted...
Someone should make a game that includes SBAllen so that we can nominate him.

I would laugh if SB disqualified himself for not originating from a video game.
Agent Triple Zero at your service!
BKSheikah is the new greatone.
Harrich did a nom rally for metal man several years back for whenever we got another character battle. I assume he'll rev that up again when nominations open.

I agreed to nom him mostly because I expect metal man to be a total bust and want a chance to be proven right.
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HaRRicH 5/25/2018 5:04:05 AM#160
I am in fact still on the Metal Man rally (see sig) and encourage you to nominate him too if you like seeing your favorite characters sliced and diced.
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
https://imgur.com/Dr4NAeq
Advokaiser 5/25/2018 5:54:56 AM#161
DpObliVion must be the most patient person by waiting 3 years to finally have the chance to nominate something.
Here lies the sig of BK_Sheikah00, who swore fealty to the Gurus of Board 8.
HaRRicH posted...
I am in fact still on the Metal Man rally (see sig) and encourage you to nominate him too if you like seeing your favorite characters sliced and diced.


pretty sure he just said he only wants to nominate him so he can see him flop terribly (which he would)

Protoman is probably right at the fodder line so any specific Robot Master will probably be well below him
swirIdude 5/25/2018 12:52:28 PM#163
Did SBAllen ever confirm what type of entrants will be in this tournament? If so, we could run an NRT like the old days.
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
swirIdude 5/25/2018 1:47:43 PM#165
There's a lot of returning characters these days. Maybe just a Returners Tournament.
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
I wouldn't mind one new character and one or two returners

Would a character that participated only in the rivalry rumble be considered a new character or returner?
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
UltimaterializerX 5/25/2018 2:26:59 PM#167
I’m totally nominating Metal Man even though H hates me.
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bwburke94 5/25/2018 3:20:49 PM#168
charmander6000 posted...
Would a character that participated only in the rivalry rumble be considered a new character or returner?

That's actually a good question. The RR wasn't a "standard" contest by any means.
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swirIdude 5/25/2018 3:27:38 PM#169
Rivalry Rumble-only characters should not count as returners because those characters didn't get a chance to display what they're worth as an individual.
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
Here are the characters that count then (excluding rivalry rumble and 2013 entrants)

Abe (Oddworld)
Ada Wong (Resident Evil 2)
Agent J (Elite Beat Agents)
AiAi (Super Monkey Ball)
Akira Yuki (Virtua Fighter)
Akuma (Super Street Fighter II Turbo)
Albedo (Xenosaga)
Alyx Vance (Half-Life)
Amy Rose (Sonic CD)
Andross (Star Fox)
Ansem (Kingdom Hearts)
Arthas Menethil (Warcraft III)
Axel (Kingdom Hearts: Chains of Memories)
Axel Steel (Guitar Hero)
Bidoof (Pokemon Diamond/Pearl)
Bub (Bubble Bobble)
Captain John Price (Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare)
Captain MacMillan (Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare)
Carl Johnson (Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas)
Carmen Sandiego (Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?)
Chop Chop Master Onion (PaRappa the Rapper)
Chris Redfield (Resident Evil)
Cid Highwind (Final Fantasy VII)
Conker (Conker’s Bad Fur Day)
Cortana (Halo)
Darth Revan (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic)
Daxter (Jak and Daxter)
Deckard Cain (Diablo)
Diablo (Diablo)
Diddy Kong (Donkey Kong Country)
Dirk the Daring (Dragon’s Lair)
Dr. Wily (Mega Man)
Earthworm Jim (Earthworm Jim)
Eddie Riggs (Brutal Legend)
Ellis (Left 4 Dead 2)
Felix (Golden Sun 2)
Gabe Logan (Syphon Filter)
Ghaleon (Lunar)
Giygas (Earthbound)
Goemon (Mystical Ninja)
HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic)
Haseo (.Hack)
Hogger (World of Warcraft)
Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)
Ivy Valentine (Soul Calibur)
Jecht (Final Fantasy X)
Jin Kazama (Tekken 3)
Jinjo (Banjo-Kazooie)
Joanna Dark (Perfect Dark)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)
Kairi (Kingdom Hearts)
Kane (Command and Conquer)
Kasumi (Dead or Alive)
Kazuya Mishima (Tekken)
Ken (Street Fighter)
King Dedede (Kirby)
Kite (.Hack)
Kuja (Final Fantasy IX)
Kyo Kusanagi (Tekken)
Lavos (Chrono Trigger)
Liquid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
Luca Blight (Suikoden II)
Lucario (Pokemon Diamond/Pearl)
Lucas (Mother 3)
Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
M. Bison (Street Fighter II)
Manny Calavera (Grim Fandango)
Marcus Fenix (Gears of War)
Marle (Chrono Trigger)
Master Hand (Super Smash Bros.)
Matt (Wii Sports)
Midgar Zolom (Final Fantasy VII)
Mithos (Tales of Symphonia)
Mother Brain (Metroid)
Mr. Driller (Mr. Driller)
Mr. Resetti (Animal Crossing)
Ms. Pac-Man (Ms. Pac-Man)
Mudkip (Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire)
Nana (Ice Climbers)
Nathan Hale (Resistance)
Nemesis (Resident Evil 3)
Nero (Devil May Cry 4)
Nidoran F (Pokemon Red/Blue)
Officer Frank Tenpenny (Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas)
PaRappa the Rapper (PaRappa the Rapper)
Pitfall Harry (Pitfall Harry)
Prince of All Cosmos (Katamari Damacy)
Prince of Persia (Prince of Persia)
Princess Daisy (Super Mario Land)
Q*Bert (Q*Bert)
Ramirez (Skies of Arcadia)
Raziel (Legend of Kain)
Roll (Mega Man)
Ryo Hazuki (Shenmue)
Sam Fisher (Splinter Cell)
Sandal (Dragon Age: Origins)
Serge (Chrono Cross)
Serious Sam (Serious Sam)
Servbot (Mega Man Legends)
Sheena Fujibayashi (Tales of Symphonia)
Sho Minamimoto (The World Ends With You)
Siegfried Schtauffen (Soul Calibur)
Sigma (Mega Man X)
Sin (Final Fantasy X)
Soap MacTavish (Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare)
Soma Cruz (Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow)
Spy (Team Fortress 2)
Strider Hiryu (Strider)
Tanner (Driv3r)
Terry Bogard (King of Fighters)
The Dog (Duck Hunt)
Tim (Braid)
Tina Armstrong (Dead or Alive)
Toad (Super Mario Bros.)
Ulala (Space Channel 5)
Ultros (Final Fantasy VI)
Vaan (Final Fantasy XII)
Vault Boy (Fallout)
Vergil (Devil May Cry)
Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia)
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
bwburke94 5/25/2018 5:26:20 PM#171
Obviously, not all of them would be considered for the bracket nowadays. In particular, the female half of '06 won't see too many of its one-timers come back.
All your old meme are belong to me.
go liquid snake
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HaRRicH 5/25/2018 7:16:55 PM#173
Rivalry Rumble-specific characters should still count. They had nominations, bracket-placement, seeding, predictions, names, artwork, and votes in matches...hard to get more official than that.

Format was awkward, yeah, but I feel like the most reasonable alternative would be to include the teams like they were characters (Cloud, Cloud/Sephiroth, Sephiroth, Link, Link/Ganondorf, Ganondorf, etc.)...and I don't know that anybody would ask for that.

You won't upset many people here by skipping the RR-exclusive characters, but on principle they should have some acknowledgement.
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
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Generally speaking nowadays, the bracket is so big and the nominations are so small that you can run your own concerted effort and get those characters in. Just about every character rally in 2013 succeeded.
HaRRicH 5/25/2018 7:20:23 PM#175
I wrote that last post thinking this was about Zen's write-ups. Whoops.

I'd probably count them as returners in a NRT, but I'd be fine either way there.
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
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I agree, that rivalry rumble characters shouldn't be included in the returners tournament. The entrants weren't truly those characters, it would be like including a character because their game was in a contest.

Regardless, here are the characters which only appeared in the rivalry rumble

Adolf Hitler
Bartz Klauser
Black Knight
Black Shadow
Blinky
Chell
Crazy Redd
Delita Hyral
Don Paolo
Dr. Breen
Dr. Fetus
Dr. Nefarious
Dr. Neo Cortex
Glacian
Golbez
Gruntilda
Illidan
Jim Raynor
Katherine
King K. Rool
Ky Kiske
LeChuck
Mid-Boss
Orochi
Queen Slug-for-a-Butt
Rodrigo Borgia
Sagat
Seymour Guado
Sol Badguy
The Great Mighty Poo
The Guy
The Kid
Vamp
William BJ Blazkowicz
Zeus
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
swirIdude 5/25/2018 8:13:54 PM#177
And not a single character of strength in that list.
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
bwburke94 5/25/2018 8:21:19 PM#178
Would Hitler be eligible for a "normal" character battle?
All your old meme are belong to me.
swirIdude 5/25/2018 8:38:10 PM#179
bwburke94 posted...
Would Hitler be eligible for a "normal" character battle?


If Hitler is in, we're going to get the worst rally and board invasion in our history.
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
If nothing else, I think the rise of the alt-right ruins Hitler's chances of coming back. While not in particularly good taste even in 2011, Hitler being in a contest back then could maybe be brushed off a harmless joke. Now? Probably not. Especially not Hitler solo rather than it being technically Hitler's rivalry (not that the latter was fooling anyone).

Also, I'd think SBAllen wouldn't be foolish enough to let Hitler enter a contest that he might actually win. 4chan tried hard for Hitler for a few hours in 2011 but couldn't quite tread water and then he got buried by the ASV. That happens against with these votals and the contest is probably toast and the entire site looks like a bunch of Neo-Nazis. After Draven and Undertale that possibility really, really shouldn't be dismissed.
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HaRRicH 5/25/2018 8:43:59 PM#181
Say what you will about that contest, but it provided important representation to doctors.
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
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Yeah, Dr. Robotnik and Dr. Wily were there too.
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
well evil doctor is a pretty common villainous trope

and also not a very popular one apparently
UltimaterializerX 5/26/2018 3:58:50 AM#184
Please no Hitler in a contest ever. That would legitimately be the worst given all this alt-right v alt-left s***.
Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest
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The Great Mighty Poo will win the next Character Battle and everyone will finally have to accept that GameFAQs is s***.
Not_Wylvane
this poll is weird because I don't think of games released in 2008 as "classic" and I don't think of games released in 1998 as "ancient"
bwburke94 5/26/2018 9:23:42 PM#187
UltimaterializerX posted...
I maintain Tanner was SFFd by Snake.

Does it make a difference?
All your old meme are belong to me.
LeonhartFour posted...
this poll is weird because I don't think of games released in 2008 as "classic" and I don't think of games released in 1998 as "ancient"

I kind of get it, but man it's weird that pre-NES to N64/PS1 generations are all in the same answer.
Agent Triple Zero at your service!
BKSheikah is the new greatone.
abdou 5/26/2018 9:41:21 PM#189
wasn't this poll ran just a month ago? weird .
...
Welcome to being old.

Like we're almost to the point where PS2/GCN/XBX games could be considered retro.
Not_Wylvane
Not_Wylvane posted...
Welcome to being old.

Like we're almost to the point where PS2/GCN/XBX games could be considered retro.


This makes me feel incredibly sad. I grew up with an atari and SNES yet the first console I purchased myself was a GameCube.
-~get rich or drunk trying ~-
Advokaiser 5/27/2018 3:09:18 PM#193
Better re-run that "Do you avoid bread heels?" poll.
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HaRRicH 5/27/2018 6:40:35 PM#194
Not_Wylvane posted...
Welcome to being old.

Like we're almost to the point where PS2/GCN/XBX games could be considered retro.


"Almost."

The Playstation 2 would be able to sign up for military service in October.

It's really hard for me to label that era in my mind as "retro," but that's totally what it is unless you're making the argument that retro is a brand or a style (which would have some truth but still). We were calling SMB old in 2003...just sucks to be consistent with that age-line of logic.

That was an era where Oracle of Ages/Seasons was portable on the Game Boy Color and you could carry the Gamecube by its handle if you wanted to show your friends Wind Waker. Now Breath of the Wild is portable on the Switch, with detachable motion controllers and a touch screen. Also, BotW is over a year old too now so it's not even THAT new anymore.

We're ooooold folks. <3
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
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Team Rocket Elite 5/27/2018 7:02:26 PM#195
FF7 is new Square. FF7 will always be new Square. >_>
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
Nope, that's middle Square, new Square is now FFXIII
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
FFVII is modern Square. Everything after FFXII on is post-modern Square.
bwburke94 5/30/2018 12:15:15 AM#199
LeonhartFour posted...
how complicated do you like your contests to be

1v1s forever.
All your old meme are belong to me.
What do you guys think is the strongest game Halo 1 could beat in a contest setting?

Could Halo even beat Sonic Adventure 2?
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