We've been promised a character contest over the summer!

God apparently wanted us to go right from winter to summer weather with no transition in between, so it looks like we'll get an announcement before this topic hits 500. Good times.

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis, and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim*~
http://www.thengamer.com/
http://thengamer.com/xstats

~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame

~*Character Contest Histories*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0

~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages
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I know Bacon said we would be getting a contest but I don't recall him specifying it would be a character battle?

Might have missed something though.
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UltimaterializerX 5/4/2018 9:09:53 AM#3
He said it somewhere. I forget where, but I know he said so.
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manual tag

hi ulti

i heard you liked infinity war
Is this Elite Beat Agents 2?
HaRRicH 5/4/2018 4:39:58 PM#5
AxemRedRanger posted...
I know Bacon said we would be getting a contest but I don't recall him specifying it would be a character battle?


I only saw him suggest a contest this year, I think over the summer. CBX makes a lot of sense to return though.
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
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UltimaterializerX 5/4/2018 5:13:36 PM#6
ZenOfThunder posted...
manual tag

hi ulti

i heard you liked infinity war

It is legit one of the 5 best movies ever made.
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spooky96 5/4/2018 7:36:15 PM#7
friendly reminder that we haven't had a 1-on-1 Character Battle in 8 years
Team Rocket Elite 5/4/2018 8:01:29 PM#9
And sometimes you get an upset right but it still sucks
SSBM > CT
SSBM > FF7
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
I had R/B/Y going all the way to the finals in the last Games Contest because if I had to deal with Pokemon beating all my favorite Mario games at least I'd get the matches right

Pokemon just finds new ways to make me miserable all the time
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swirIdude 5/4/2018 8:15:15 PM#11
being on the wrong side of the result that makes a lot of people upset isn't fun though

like Master Hand > Kuja


Didn't seem so wrong to me.
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
UltimaterializerX 5/4/2018 8:33:45 PM#12
I've been on the right and wrong side of a lot of upsets, but nothing beats Draven, Undertale, L-Block, and Super Smash Bros. Melee (twice!). Contests are at their best when rallies piss everyone off, and people can be sanctimonious all they want but rallies been going on since 2002.
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UltimaterializerX 5/4/2018 8:35:34 PM#14
True. I hated Cloud losing and that was the #2 biggest board explosion ever. I have since embraced it, because without rallies we'd have no contests anymore.
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Team Rocket Elite 5/4/2018 8:40:48 PM#15
Yeah. We would not have had Best Year in Gaming if it wasn't for rallies.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
Favorite "5" game poll today:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7069-
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
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I knows POTD results aren't comparable to actual contest results, but P5 is worth 44.30% on Skyrim so far, which would be good for 34.31% on Mario 64, which would give it 39.78% on TP, which would give it 56.35% on Persona 4.
Persona 5 also got 33.90% on BOTW during the GotY polls, which would suggest BOTW is much stronger than TP.
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as BK_Sheikah00, Guru Champ!
It would also suggest that Breath of the Wild is slightly stronger than Mario 64, which is possible because ZELDA, but it would be impressive for a new game to be that strong.
bwburke94 5/4/2018 11:03:21 PM#21
By the time the next games contest rolls around, BotW won't be the newest Zelda anymore, so it won't rank quite that high. This isn't your typical Zelda cycle.
All your old meme are belong to me.
Final Fantasy V barely beating Grand Theft Auto V. I hope that's just recency bias :/
Your new reigning and defending Guru Champion is, BKSheikah!
bwburke94 posted...
By the time the next games contest rolls around, BotW won't be the newest Zelda anymore, so it won't rank quite that high. This isn't your typical Zelda cycle.


Assuming we get another GotD contest for 2010-2019, I don't see any way that we get a new mainline Zelda before the end of this decade.
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ffmasterjose posted...
Final Fantasy V barely beating Grand Theft Auto V. I hope that's just recency bias :/


GTAV isn't that "recent" at this point, but it's a fairly strong game for GTA. It didn't do that badly against SMRPG. Plus, FFV is going to be one of the weaker mainline FF games that "matter" (a.k.a. not II, III, or the MMOs).
abdou 5/5/2018 5:53:22 AM#25
FFV has always been the least talked about mainline FF game, people just don't care about that one. also lol at MGSV...
...
HaRRicH 5/5/2018 6:36:22 AM#26
LeonhartFour posted...
Pretty impressive showing by Persona 5 so far.


Agreed. LoZ:BotW is gonna be a powerhouse.
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
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I'm just happy that FF5 is doing as well as it is, though kind of a shame the best FF game is so underrated.
Not_Wylvane
HaRRicH posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Pretty impressive showing by Persona 5 so far.


Agreed. LoZ:BotW is gonna be a powerhouse.


The game was always going to be strong, even on OldManFAQs
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
UltimaterializerX 5/5/2018 11:36:51 AM#29
This site correctly loathes the GTA series.
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Skyrim's strength seems to be completely unchanged from the last time we had this poll back in 2014. FFV and GTA V got 28.61% and 32.64% against Skyrim in 2014. As of right now, FFV and GTA V have 31.38% and 33.03% against Skyrim. GTA V has remained fairly static, although FFV has gotten a little bit stronger since 2014.
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
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LusterSoldier posted...
although FFV has gotten a little bit stronger since 2014.


FF resurgence hype
Advokaiser 5/5/2018 3:56:55 PM#32
Would you take Breath of the Wild over:

1._Majora's Mask
2._Super Mario 64
3._Final Fantasy VI
4._Pokemon R/B/Y
5._A Link to the Past

...?
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Not over any of those.

Who wins between Fallout: New Vegas and Mass Effect 2?
"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
The Four Job Fiesta's probably helped a good bit in bringing FF5 into more prominence.

e: I'd take BotW over MM and FF6 for sure, but probably not over the other three.
Not_Wylvane
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pjbasis 5/6/2018 9:53:34 AM#35
I don't know that I trust gamefaqs to really side with the new game, even this one
Not_Wylvane 5/6/2018 10:43:55 AM#36
So how strong does BotW look using Persona 5 and Skyrim?

Yeah it won't be entirely accurate but who cares
Not_Wylvane
Not_Wylvane posted...
So how strong does BotW look using Persona 5 and Skyrim?

Yeah it won't be entirely accurate but who cares


Persona 5 got 43.51% on Skyrim and 33.90% on BotW. That would give BotW 61.04% on Skyrim, which would put it at 49.70% on Mario 64. That would put it at 56.61% on TP just to give it an indirect comparison to another Zelda game.
HaRRicH 5/6/2018 11:31:21 AM#38
On a whim:

RBY > LoZ:LttP > SM64 > LoZ:BotW > LoZ:MM > FF3/6
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
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I always intended to make some adjusted 2015 X-Stats based on the info Allen gave us from the rallies and stuff but I never did

maybe I should go through the archives, find all that info, and try it now

I also thought about using the bonus matches for adjustments but I'm not entirely sure they're reliable (well SSBM/SMRPG obviously isn't)
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swirIdude 5/6/2018 11:40:17 AM#40
BotW is probably the only brand new game that could challenge for the Top 15 or so games in strength, but I'd have a hard time picking it to do any of that. Maybe over a mid-tier Zelda title due to SFF, but it's not going to beat OoT, CT, SM64 or any game on that level.
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
So what's the strongest game you would pick Breath of the Wild to beat with confidence?
swirIdude 5/6/2018 11:46:18 AM#42
LeonhartFour posted...
So what's the strongest game you would pick Breath of the Wild to beat with confidence?


I tried checking the X-Stats to get an idea of this, but of course they're messed up.

I would take BotW with confidence over games like Portal, FFT, MMX, SotN. There are bigger names that I might roll the dice on a BotW upset but I wouldn't feel super confident about it.
"The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima
BKSheikah won Guru, but you know that.
pjbasis 5/6/2018 12:17:42 PM#43
LeonhartFour posted...
So what's the strongest game you would pick Breath of the Wild to beat with confidence?


FFX
hey that means it'd have a great shot to beat Melee

until they get scared and rally
Advokaiser posted...
Would you take Breath of the Wild over:

1._Majora's Mask
2._Super Mario 64
3._Final Fantasy VI
4._Pokemon R/B/Y
5._A Link to the Past

...?


I would take it over Majora's Mask or FFVI, might consider it over Super Mario 64, and wouldn't take it over Pokemon RBY or A Link to the Past.
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pjbasis 5/6/2018 3:01:35 PM#46
LeonhartFour posted...
hey that means it'd have a great shot to beat Melee

until they get scared and rally


Feel like it'll have a harder time toppling the HIERARCHY
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LeonhartFour posted...
So what's the strongest game you would pick Breath of the Wild to beat with confidence?

Probably the stronger of MM and FF6.

I'd be tempted to pick it over SM64 but no clue if I'd bite the bullet on that, and either way I'm definitely not confident over it happening.
Not_Wylvane
Advokaiser 5/6/2018 3:57:01 PM#48
LeonhartFour posted...
hey that means it'd have a great shot to beat Melee

until they get scared and rally


The list I put before was in order of my (raw) perceived strength from them in a scenario where BotW battled against them, so I'd say it has much more of a chance to beat MM but much less to beat RBY. I was tempted to put Melee in that list as well, but since MM beat Brawl, which beat Melee, back in 2010, and since I really don't think Melee's strength (without rallies, obviously) has risen or declined much, I just assumed BotW could beat it fairly easily if BotW > MM is any indication. But now that just got me thinking...

I'd say: ALttP > RBY > SM64 > (Melee >) BotW > FFVI > MM
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Twilight Princess vs. Wind Waker
Which claims the title of 5th strongest Zelda game?
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UltimaterializerX 5/6/2018 4:04:00 PM#50
I'd have a hard time not taking BotW to win a contest outright. We're actually overdue for a successful Zelda rally.
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