I think we pretty much saw that Vincent had dropped in 2013.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5156-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-1-kos-mos-vs-dunban-vs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5229-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-2-phoenix-vs-vincent-vs

At the time people blamed Phoenix > Vincent on the hilarious picture, and that probably contributed, but look at his earlier match. 60% on KOS-MOS in 2013 is just not a near-elite level performance and that's assuming you don't try to argue Xeno-LFF or something. KOS-MOS is probably around the fodder-line at best so yeah that looks pretty damn bad for Vincent!
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Leonhart4 3/11/2018 11:27:58 AM#152
I mean Vincent did drop and probably would have lost to Mewtwo anyway, but I doubt he loses to Phoenix without that terrible picture.
LeonhartFour 3/11/2018 12:12:05 PM#153
oh hey it's the return of Wyoming

Ayla is winning in Wyoming

Magus is also winning in Montana but that's less funny
The_Ctes 3/12/2018 1:53:59 AM#154
The "I haven't played Chrono Trigger" option is pretty high when you consider its contest strength.
Then again, polls were always a bad measure.
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Advokaiser 3/13/2018 12:56:47 PM#155
Here's a fun question:

Do you think Brawl breaks 40% on Melee in a 1v1?
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LeonhartFour 3/13/2018 12:57:18 PM#156
Team Rocket Elite 3/13/2018 3:03:44 PM#157
Rallies have a hard time running up the score. That's why a lot of rallied wins tend to be just over 50%. Although, I think SSBM fans rallied against Pokemon Gold/Silver last time so I don't think they are completely against it.
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LeonhartFour 3/13/2018 3:19:45 PM#158
let's say that the contest takes place before Smash 5 comes out (99% chance this is the case)

if a character is just ANNOUNCED for Smash 5, will the hype give them a contest boost? like if Captain Toad is announced for Smash during the nom period and makes it in at a decent seed, can he ride recognizability and the SMASH 5 FEAR to a win or two? is there ANY potential Smash 5 newcomer that could get a sizable boost pre-Smash 5?
Is this Elite Beat Agents 2?
A Crono announcement would be an absolute game changer.
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That sort of happened to Ike during the 2007 contest, though he lost in the first round. Sonic would have likely lost to Squall if it wasn't for it. He went from 54.65% in round 1 to 65.41% and 65.70% in round 2 and 3 respectively against Sub-Zero.
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bwburke94 3/14/2018 5:59:46 AM#162
ZenOfThunder posted...
like if Captain Toad is announced for Smash during the nom period and makes it in at a decent seed, can he ride recognizability and the SMASH 5 FEAR to a win or two? is there ANY potential Smash 5 newcomer that could get a sizable boost pre-Smash 5?

Irrelevant. Captain Toad will not be in Smash.
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LeonhartFour 3/14/2018 8:44:13 AM#163
charmander6000 posted...
Sonic would have likely lost to Squall if it wasn't for it.


ugh don't remind me
swirIdude 3/14/2018 9:19:41 PM#164
Be wary, friends, for when Knuckles is announced for Smash 5, he will defeat Solid Snake, once and for all!
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Haste_2 3/14/2018 10:01:29 PM#165
AxemRedRanger posted...
I think we pretty much saw that Vincent had dropped in 2013.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5156-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-1-kos-mos-vs-dunban-vs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5229-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-2-phoenix-vs-vincent-vs

At the time people blamed Phoenix > Vincent on the hilarious picture, and that probably contributed, but look at his earlier match. 60% on KOS-MOS in 2013 is just not a near-elite level performance and that's assuming you don't try to argue Xeno-LFF or something. KOS-MOS is probably around the fodder-line at best so yeah that looks pretty damn bad for Vincent!


Also, if you look at Phoenix's round 1 performance, he got 55% on Marth. I don't think very many folks would take KOS-MOS over Marth these days. As crazy as it sounds, Vincent may have been around Phoenix's level regardless of the picture. Keep in mind that Phoenix (and Marth) may have been as strong as ever in 2013. And it makes it seem much more likely that Vincent wasn't SFFed by Sephiroth in the 2010 character contest.

Would any of you take Vincent over Tifa these days?
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LeonhartFour 3/14/2018 10:41:58 PM#166
Nah, I'd roll with Tifa > Vincent nowadays. I'd have probably taken a chance on it way back when, too.
HaRRicH 3/14/2018 10:44:38 PM#167
swirIdude posted...
Be wary, friends, for when Knuckles is announced for Smash 5, he will defeat Solid Snake, once and for all!


Not if Solid Snake isn't in Smash 5.
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The_Ctes 3/15/2018 2:08:31 AM#168
Smash 4 likely helped Mega Man in 13.

Serveral characters only got in the 07 and 08 contests due to Brawl.
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swirIdude 3/15/2018 7:19:17 PM#169
HaRRicH posted...
swirIdude posted...
Be wary, friends, for when Knuckles is announced for Smash 5, he will defeat Solid Snake, once and for all!


Not if Solid Snake isn't in Smash 5.


But that's how Knuckles would win a voting contest against Solid Snake on the GameFAQs home page.
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So how would people rank Square's former near-elites these days?

I'd go:

Auron
Tifa
Sora
Squall
Vincent

I figure Kefka and Vivi at least give Sora and Squall a good scare these days (Vivi having of course already beaten Squall in 2013 but that may not have been a normal match), and there's quite a few other characters I'd be tempted to take over Vincent.
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LeonhartFour 3/16/2018 11:44:28 AM#172
Squall > Tifa > Auron > Sora > Vincent

Both Sora and Vincent are no longer "near-elite" though that can change with KH3.
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Bit late on Vincent, but in the adjusted 2013 stats I put together, Vincent was above a Phoenix but not by much. He was definitely weak that year.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Haste_2 3/16/2018 5:22:29 PM#175
You need Vivi in there. VIvi didn't do so hot in the earlier four-ways contests, so I think we ought to give Vivi the benefit of the doubt. Plus, FFIX's greatly improved performance in 2015 only reinforces the argument of Vivi 2013 being legit. Vincent probably doesn't deserve "near-elite" status anymore...

Squall
Vivi
Tifa
Auron
Sora
Vincent

I just can't put Tifa over Squall, despite her looking stronger in the previous contest. Auron losing to L-Block... I still can't believe that happened....

Edit: it is true that Vivi clearly benefitted from his round 2 upset... but he was 7 percentage points higher than Squall. Knuckles probably gained 5-6% on Squall after upsetting Magus... And I suppose it's possible that Vivi's upset took more notice to voters, due to the low vote totals....hmmm.... maybe I'll put Vivi below Squall, then.
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LeonhartFour 3/16/2018 5:52:45 PM#176
well Tifa and Auron have a direct comparison with L-Block in 2013

although I do think there was an L-Block rally or something in the Auron match but I don't recall

I don't trust Sora against a strong FF character at all though, at least not to win.
LeonhartFour 3/16/2018 5:56:05 PM#177
also I'm still upset that Vivi beat Mario because it meant Squall didn't get to

seems like whenever he has a chance to make a breakthrough victory something gets in the way
(edited 3/16/2018 5:57:26 PM)report
L-Block rallied to beat Auron, for some reason.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Haste_2 3/16/2018 6:11:59 PM#179
Methinks Auron would have beaten L-Block easily without it, looking at the first 10 minutes.
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Big Bob 3/18/2018 6:01:19 AM#180
Kefka
Squall
Auron
Vivi
Tifa
Sora
Vincent
Kefka
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Advokaiser 3/18/2018 2:37:52 PM#181
Big Bob posted...
Kefka
[...]
Kefka


Seems legit.
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bwburke94 3/18/2018 4:44:04 PM#182
Advokaiser posted...
Big Bob posted...
Kefka
[...]
Kefka


Seems legit.

Which one of those two was Lettuce Kefka?
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Team Rocket Elite 3/19/2018 8:31:54 PM#183
Bump
This was not the best year for my bracket.
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Team Rocket Elite 3/21/2018 8:11:44 PM#184
Bump.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
God of War series playrate poll today:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7025-
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
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are people kinda over Kratos? What year was his peak power? Will he get that high again with his new artsy-fartsy childcare simulation game (The Last of Us Part II)?
Is this Elite Beat Agents 2?
LeonhartFour 3/21/2018 9:28:17 PM#187
Based on numbers, his peak year looks to be 2010, but that Charizard number isn't totally reliable. He looked pretty strong in 2007 and 2008, too.
spooky96 3/21/2018 10:19:49 PM#188
Kratos probably is slightly stronger than your average western-game character.
Advokaiser 3/22/2018 12:01:39 PM#189
LusterSoldier posted...
God of War series playrate poll today:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7025-


The playrate poll is also kind of biased. Having played one or two games doesn't mean you didn't like the series or that "it was enough". Maybe you're just getting started or have just had the chance to play a few games. I assume this affects the poll directly.
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Not_Wylvane 3/23/2018 12:55:33 AM#190
Is this a canon playrate poll.

Either way I don't get the feeling Fortnite or PUBG will make a splash in the next contest.
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LeonhartFour 3/23/2018 8:55:23 AM#191
Not_Wylvane posted...
Is this a canon playrate poll.

Either way I don't get the feeling Fortnite or PUBG will make a splash in the next contest.


I mean what GameFAQs thinks of a game doesn't matter anymore
Not_Wylvane 3/23/2018 12:05:18 PM#192
Why care about anything, in the end nothing matters in life besides which empty soul gets the biggest rallies.
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LeonhartFour 3/23/2018 12:46:10 PM#193
swirIdude 3/23/2018 1:07:03 PM#194
do PUBG and Fortnite have eligible characters?
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Does PlayerUnknown count?
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Big Bob 3/23/2018 6:13:40 PM#196
I struggle to think of a character that even *can* be nominated, let alone if they'd be strong.

I'd be scared of PUBG/Fortnite rallying to win if we had another games contest, but I doubt that's coming.
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I'm rather surprised that PUBG has a lower playrate than Fortnite. Although I would blame that on PUBG only being available on Xbox One and PC (and also Mobile, but this site wouldn't care about the Mobile version) while Fortnite is available on PS4, Xbox One, and PC. Although I guess it doesn't help that PUBG was still an Early Access Steam title at the time Fortnite came out and it took about 5 more months after the release of Fortnite for PUBG to leave Early Access and also get an Xbox One release.
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Advokaiser 3/24/2018 11:11:55 AM#198
Maybe PUBG's players moved on once all the glitchfest began taking over the servers.
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Team Rocket Elite 3/25/2018 8:19:22 PM#199
Bump
This was not the best year for my bracket.
Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest!
Team Rocket Elite 3/27/2018 8:50:43 PM#200
Bump.
This was not the best year for my bracket.
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