LeonhartFour 5/1/2018 10:24:16 PM#451
Haste_2 posted...
His picture was a bit unrecognizable


and also possibly not actually CJ

I've often considered the possibility that the reason 2004 Snake looked so bad (aside from the Tanner match) is because CJayC used Naked Snake pics for his matches against Knuckles and Mega Man (two characters he faced the year before and did noticeably worse), and every MGS fan knew that wasn't Solid Snake. His match against Frog speaks for itself in how much a bad picture can cause you to underperform.

But regardless, even if a poll "foreshadowed" the Nintendo Boost, nobody could've actually predicted the total shift. Keep in mind that Ness didn't beat CJ by that much. It was just a 55/45 result, and the Nintendo Boost (paired with CJ getting a picture that might have been another character entirely) could have flipped the result. Plus, as I said, GTA really hasn't been the same since the Nintendo Boost either. There are certain characters and franchises that were negatively impacted by the demographic shift in 2005, including a bunch of niche Square and niche RPG characters (Remember how Tifa matched Cloud's percentage on Vyse in 2005? I remember discussions about whether Tifa and Vincent were acting as Cloud/Sephy proxies since they weren't in the main bracket. Good times).
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bwburke94 5/2/2018 12:01:09 AM#452
Snake is the biggest case for pic factor.

Except maybe Vincent in 2013.
All your old meme are belong to me.
Vincent's pic in 2013 hurt him but he also just sucked that year. His performance in R1 was really bad.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
spooky96 5/2/2018 2:03:36 AM#454
bwburke94 posted...
Snake is the biggest case for pic factor.

Except maybe Vincent in 2013.

Would have lost regardless.
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you don't need zen to do write-ups

the write-ups were in your heart all along
Is this Elite Beat Agents 2?
It also didn't help that we didn't have too much respect for Jak who got around 45% on Ness in 2004.

Like it makes sense in hindsight, but it was quite the upset in 2005.
Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 8:11:26 AM#457
Vincent would've lost to Mewtwo regardless in all likelihood, but he probably at least doesn't finish last with a good picture.

the best thing about Ness > CJ is that it allowed my favorites bracket (which had Squall winning) to be #1 on the leaderboard for the first week of the contest until Ganondorf ruined everything as he always does
Xeybozn 5/2/2018 10:50:31 AM#459
Who cares how strong (or weak) Vincent is now? He'll probably never make it into a contest again. Even back in 2013 he was seeded so low that he wouldn't have made the play-in polls for a 2010-size contest, and there's no reason he'll have gained strength since then. The only real debate about Vincent should be about why he fell so much between 2010 and 2013, and even that only matters because it might mean something for other characters.
Congrats to 2017 Guru champ BKSheikah!
Vincent fell because FF7 as a whole has dropped a lot. Except for Tifa and Aeris. Because boobs are eternal, I guess.

In general, mainstream Final Fantasy has fallen. Final Fantasy 7 the most, but FF8 looked bad in the games contest and FF10 was a bit weaker as well. Final Fantasy 9 is the only one that's gotten stronger, but it's more of an old-school game in spirit (and fanbase).
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 11:50:14 AM#461
Xeybozn posted...
Who cares how strong (or weak) Vincent is now?


maybe this isn't the topic for you
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 12:01:25 PM#462
also I'm not sure it's clear what Aerith's level of strength is because Draven/Link LPF'd Shepard so hard (although the fact that he stayed above 10% is still one of the most impressive performances in the contest)

I don't think she loses to Shepard in 2010
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 12:08:44 PM#463
LeonhartFour posted...

and also possibly not actually CJ

I think that artwork is actually Carl Johnson, but the problem is that CJ is customizable, and there is no official art that has him wearing his default attire. So, it might be CJ in the picture, it's kind of nobody in particular's CJ.
Agent Triple Zero at your service!
BKSheikah is the new greatone.
LeonhartFour posted...
hey since Zen is hanging around

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-55-4.jpg

remember this?


I THINK ABOUT THIS ON A NEARLY DAILY BASIS

I HAVE REPENTED THROUGH MY SHAME
Is this Elite Beat Agents 2?
I don't regret a single one of the weirdo pics we made during that year. They're all classic.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Going back and trying to pick out match pics I did that I liked. It's surprisingly difficult to remember which ones I did.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-128-7.jpg (will always be my favorite)
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-082.jpg (feel slightly dirty about this one)
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb8/cb8-116-1.jpg (eat your heart out sephy)
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-53-1.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-59-2.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-62-2.jpg

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-62-2.jpg (so good I had to use it twice!)

Made a bunch of pics that year that I really liked, especially for RBY's run which is probably the most hype I've ever been for a contest.
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-59-1.jpg

Clearly, this is the greatest work of art I ever produced in these contests.
Agent Triple Zero at your service!
BKSheikah is the new greatone.
Who made this one?

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-57-2.jpg
[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
[NO BKSheikah NO PEACE]
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 1:35:45 PM#471
KamikazePotato posted...
I don't regret a single one of the weirdo pics we made during that year. They're all classic.


what about the 2008 contest

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-49-4.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-57-2.jpg

although Zen's best work was sneaking in what is clearly a fan art to make sure Rikku beat ? Block

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb9/5220.jpg
AxemRedRanger posted...
Who made this one?

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-57-2.jpg

Okay maybe this one was a mistake (looks like it was made by thebaracuda)

All the others though? Classic
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-119-1.jpg

I don't think I've ever spent so little time working on a match pic, yet it's probably within the Top 3 of my all time greats.
Agent Triple Zero at your service!
BKSheikah is the new greatone.
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 2:40:48 PM#474
_SecretSquirrel posted...
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-119-1.jpg

I don't think I've ever spent so little time working on a match pic, yet it's probably within the Top 3 of my all time greats.


That's edited? I thought it was official art!
Here lies the sig of BK_Sheikah00, who swore fealty to the Gurus of Board 8.
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 2:58:30 PM#476
well all he did was edit in a silhouette of Naked Snake and edit out Wander/Agro I imagine
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Ohhhh... Yeah, I barely noticed the difference.
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LeonhartFour posted...
well all he did was edit in a silhouette of Naked Snake and edit out Wander/Agro I imagine

Yeah, it was basically

1. Crop SOTC art
2. Clone Stamp out Agro
3. Paste and Resize Naked Snake
4. Color overlay on Snake

I made it as a joke fully expecting the match to still be MGS3 vs. 4.
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HaRRicH 5/2/2018 3:49:37 PM#479
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 3:50:45 PM#480
I only made a handful of pictures for round 1 in 2010 because I'm not any good at making pictures
HaRRicH 5/2/2018 3:51:03 PM#481
(no pic is better than yo's for SSBB > SSBM)
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 3:54:36 PM#482
HaRRicH posted...
(no pic is better than yo's for SSBB > SSBM)


http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-115-4.jpg

has there ever been a more hyped match for one that took place so early in the contest?

I guess Mario/Crono II but that's probably it
The Sandbag pic is modern art that transcends GameFAQs contests.
n2k
HaRRicH 5/2/2018 4:27:47 PM#484
Speaking of Mario/Crono 2003, I dunno if ya'll are ready for this.....

https://imgur.com/a/RPHr24B
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png
LeonhartFour 5/2/2018 6:50:27 PM#485
HaRRicH posted...
Speaking of Mario/Crono 2003, I dunno if ya'll are ready for this.....

https://imgur.com/a/RPHr24B


the best
HaRRicH posted...
Speaking of Mario/Crono 2003, I dunno if ya'll are ready for this.....

https://imgur.com/a/RPHr24B

I can't even see the image for some reason, but I'm pretty sure I know what it is.
Agent Triple Zero at your service!
BKSheikah is the new greatone.
HaRRicH 5/3/2018 3:58:05 PM#487
Imgur's weird. It looks like it took down that picture but reuploaded it multiple times...? Can't explain it.

Try this:

https://imgur.com/gallery/qsLwiZX
Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX!
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LeonhartFour 5/3/2018 4:01:16 PM#488
that picture just reminds me of how much we cared about contests back then

Squall beating Luigi caused so much furor that CJayC had to put a user level restriction on Board 8

granted most of us were still largely immature teenagers back then and now most of us are in our late 20s and early 30s

like people got angry about Draven and Undertale but nothing like what contests used to do to us way back in the early days
HaRRicH posted...
Imgur's weird. It looks like it took down that picture but reuploaded it multiple times...? Can't explain it.

Try this:

https://imgur.com/gallery/qsLwiZX

Yup, exactly what I thought it was.
Agent Triple Zero at your service!
BKSheikah is the new greatone.
LeonhartFour 5/3/2018 7:02:54 PM#490
one of these days I'd like to do a contest retrospective where I talk about old contests just for the nostalgia
LeonhartFour posted...
that picture just reminds me of how much we cared about contests back then

Squall beating Luigi caused so much furor that CJayC had to put a user level restriction on Board 8

granted most of us were still largely immature teenagers back then and now most of us are in our late 20s and early 30s


I don't know what you're talking about, I handled that loss quite well!
Not_Wylvane
I had Mario winning. That is still one of the most hilarious nights on B8 history. Mario BLATANTLY cheated and Ceej gave no f***s.
Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest
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LeonhartFour 5/4/2018 5:27:02 AM#493
Not_Wylvane posted...
I don't know what you're talking about, I handled that loss quite well!


since you are Not Wylvane I'm sure you did
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LeonhartFour 5/4/2018 1:19:11 PM#494
LeonhartFour posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
I don't know what you're talking about, I handled that loss quite well!


since you are Not Wylvane I'm sure you did

I laughed.
Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest
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LeonhartFour posted...
that picture just reminds me of how much we cared about contests back then

[...]

like people got angry about Draven and Undertale but nothing like what contests used to do to us way back in the early days


This is kind of true --and kind of sad-- but not entirely. As I've said before, nothing seems to please Board 8 in terms of contests anymore. I've enjoyed every contest since my first one (Game of the Decade) all the way to Years, and I remember just how pissed off people were back when Brawl beat Melee (ah... good times...), but they weren't really pissed for unfair reasons. I remember that everyone was expectant just before Years started. I think people in general do still care about contests, it's just less traffic, unfair rallies and lack of actual contests that gives the illusion of people not caring.
Here lies the sig of BK_Sheikah00, who swore fealty to the Gurus of Board 8.
I have only ever picked Mario/Crono wrong once. I think it was 2006 when they made the final.
Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest
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LeonhartFour 5/4/2018 7:54:37 PM#498
Mario/Crono in the final was 2005.

Brawl > Melee is one of the better contest results ever. It's great being on the right side of a result that makes a lot of people upset.
LeonhartFour 5/4/2018 7:57:29 PM#499
being on the wrong side of the result that makes a lot of people upset isn't fun though

like Master Hand > Kuja
LeonhartFour 5/4/2018 7:57:41 PM#500

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