Advokaiser 10/28/2017 2:22:43 PM#101
LeonhartFour posted...
Advokaiser posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
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My favorites are my favorites because they're the best.


I'll accept this saying for now until I ultimately confirm it when I get the chance to play FFVIII.

But if "best" and "favorite" actually have that crucial value, then later Pokemon Gens should perform better in a "best" poll.


Well, the point is that I don't make any distinction between the terms. I'm not trying to judge these things "objectively" because there's no reason to do so.


In that case, that phrase is actually pretty awesome and I'll probably be stealing it in the future (lol).
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Team Rocket Elite 10/29/2017 7:33:09 PM#102
Bump
This was not the best year for my bracket.
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pjbasis 10/29/2017 7:49:05 PM#103
I think it's a very deep subject, but it's naive to think there are no objective standards to things.

Again, it's a deep subject so anyone dismissive of this probably thinks I'm just trying to explain why Chrono Cross is the best game of all time or something, but I can see a difference between my personal preference and something that is well made even if something about it doesn't appeal to me on a "superficial" level.

An easy example is I'll never like most racing or sports games, because the very premise is something I'm not interested in, but that doesn't mean none of them are well made or deserve recognition. And if I played enough of them I think I'd be able to tell what was good from bad, at least in broad strokes.
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LeonhartFour 10/29/2017 8:03:29 PM#104
pjbasis posted...
I think it's a very deep subject, but it's naive to think there are no objective standards to things.


I didn't say there weren't. I just said I don't care enough about it to make a distinction between "best" and "favorite." I don't judge games for a living, so objectivity doesn't matter to me.
pjbasis 10/29/2017 9:55:17 PM#105
I guess that's fair enough. I also don't really make a distinction when asked that question either, because it's a little fruitless.

On another note has anyone tried to make a more robust type of x-stats? The fact that it relies on a simple ratio based on percents seems kinda simple to me.
Switch ownership increases to 36.66% with the most recent ownership poll. The new result has been added to the spreadsheet here:

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LeonhartFour 10/29/2017 10:11:59 PM#107
pjbasis posted...
The fact that it relies on a simple ratio based on percents seems kinda simple to me.


Well, it's simple by design and doesn't really need to be more robust.
pjbasis 10/29/2017 10:16:54 PM#108
I imagine some mathhead would have been interested in making it even more accurate though. Unless you mean something more than that?
LeonhartFour 10/29/2017 10:22:24 PM#109
I don't know how much more accurate you want it to be. I am no mathematician, but the guys who came up with all the X-Stats formulas are, so I imagine if there was a more accurate way, they'd have come up with it by now.
Advokaiser 10/30/2017 7:46:12 AM#110
LusterSoldier posted...
Switch ownership increases to 36.66% with the most recent ownership poll. The new result has been added to the spreadsheet here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMtyUuzmT5ggmYy-xbiGf7fcloXuhkQuu4ZIC2nGI4M/pub


What were the Wii U's numbers throughout its lifespan (at launch, at a year in, at Smash 4's release, etc.)? Is the Switch a success after the Wii U's fiasco?
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Advokaiser posted...
What were the Wii U's numbers throughout its lifespan (at launch, at a year in, at Smash 4's release, etc.)? Is the Switch a success after the Wii U's fiasco?


At the 13 month mark (12/30/2013), Wii U was only at 30.22%. While we don't have a poll right after Smash 4's release, Wii U went up to 44.51% ownership on 12/30/2014. Switch has 36.66% ownership after almost 8 months, and ownership should go up even more before the end of the year. So yeah, the Switch is certainly doing a lot better than the Wii U.
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Advokaiser 10/30/2017 8:42:02 AM#112
That is quite comforting to hear. I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, but I'm really happy that they didn't stay going downhill -- instead, they were aware of this and worked really hard to have a resurgence, and they succeeded. I hope they stay reigning supreme.
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Big Bob 10/31/2017 9:03:47 AM#113
Mario Odyssey vs. Persona 5, who you got?
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Advokaiser 10/31/2017 9:21:07 AM#114
Mario.

Edit: Well, tricky question. In a GotY poll with BotW in and lots of SFF, Persona might have a good chance. I think it comes down to how resonating Mario Odyssey becomes in the next two months.
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Mario Odyssey.

Persona 5 would need to about as strong as Persona 4 to even stand a chance imo
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LeonhartFour 10/31/2017 10:16:34 AM#116
Breath of the Wild is going to dominate because Odyssey won't be in the final GOTY poll unless Allen makes an exception. He might if Odyssey doesn't get completely destroyed, but I'm afraid it will.
Advokaiser 10/31/2017 11:23:40 AM#117
AxemRedRanger posted...
Mario Odyssey.

Persona 5 would need to about as strong as Persona 4 to even stand a chance imo


I've only heard good things about P5. It's definitely more popular than P3, at least.
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swirIdude 10/31/2017 1:56:00 PM#118
Even if Odyssey is in the poll with BotW, it will beat P5.
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LeonhartFour 10/31/2017 1:56:29 PM#119
yeah it'll win anyway

It'll just be a little less dominant if Odyssey is there
https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6884-

Man, this is such a weak November for games, considering November in past years is usually a good month for games. Although this year, October was a better month for games than November.
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Advokaiser 11/1/2017 2:38:13 AM#121
I wouldn't call it weak at all...

With Pokemon US/UM, hype for Sonic Forces and Star Wars Battlefront, as well as a lot of CoD: WWII propaganda... Sure, it isn't "October-stacked" nor is it a usual November, but there are many popular titles in there.

Also, I didn't know .hack was still a thing. Good to know since that series has had me curious for a while.
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Big Bob 11/1/2017 6:08:04 AM#122
Seeing a Sonic game lose to a Call of Duty game on this site is something.

Then again, hype for nazi killing is at an all-time high.
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.hack is in second place and has over 18% of the vote. That doesn't seem like something that should happen if this month was remotely strong. .Hack was never big on this site and prior to this upcoming release being announced, I don't think it had really been a thing for several years.
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pjbasis 11/1/2017 9:56:47 AM#124
I voted for it because it's more exciting than a pokemon rerelease
swirIdude 11/1/2017 2:53:44 PM#125
Advokaiser posted...
I wouldn't call it weak at all...

With Pokemon US/UM, hype for Sonic Forces and Star Wars Battlefront, as well as a lot of CoD: WWII propaganda... Sure, it isn't "October-stacked" nor is it a usual November, but there are many popular titles in there.

Also, I didn't know .hack was still a thing. Good to know since that series has had me curious for a while.


Where is this Sonic Forces hype you speak of? The furry community?
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Advokaiser 11/3/2017 4:47:35 PM#127
swirIdude posted...
Where is this Sonic Forces hype you speak of? The furry community?


It seems to have died off with the leak of the game... At least I perceived it had about the same popularity as Sonic Mania in terms of hype.
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WhiteLens 11/5/2017 1:07:08 PM#128
spooky96 11/6/2017 8:09:28 PM#129
Ugh the poll will now change at 1030
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Definitely tracking today's poll since I tracked this poll the previous 2 times we had it.
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pjbasis 11/7/2017 9:13:35 PM#131
What was the original reason you tracked the first poll though?
pjbasis posted...
What was the original reason you tracked the first poll though?


Because it had the potential for some interesting trends (which it did have).
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pjbasis 11/7/2017 9:23:35 PM#133
Then perhaps it would be more accurate to say you are tracking today's poll because it has interesting trends in the first place.
LeonhartFour 11/7/2017 9:36:33 PM#134
the results are ultimately meaningless either way so what does it matter
Obv. Pokemon players prefer riding bikes, so if bike users drop then that means Pokemon's going to tank next contest.
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Poll updates and trend charts for yesterday's poll:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oxSpLAnLjn4kVDocJHjYfMUd65oxLQAEF9bWDdVRNzU/pub?gid=2051638781

"I drive" has a below average board vote and Power Hour, when comparing them to the final result. Normally, it's the been the case for the past few years that options with a good Power Hour don't manage to replicate that Power Hour strength during the ASV/SNV, but this is one of the few exceptions to the rule. "I drive" drops off during the night vote, which was its worst time period. "I drive" recovers from the bad night vote during the morning vote, where it performs slightly above average. The ASV and SNV is the best time period for "I drive" since part of the ASV occurs after Europe starts going to sleep and the SNV happens when Europe is mostly asleep by then.

"I get a ride" and "I walk" both have rather similar trends, with a good board vote and Power Hour, plus an above average night vote. Both options perform worst during the ASV/SNV and have a fairly average morning vote.

"I ride a bicycle" has a terrible board vote, Power Hour, and SNV. It performs best during the night vote and has an average morning vote and ASV.

"Public transportation" performs worst during the board vote, Power Hour, and SNV. It has an average morning vote, and below average ASV.

"I just stay home" has fairly consistent trends over the course of the entire poll.

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Looking at the Geolocation trends here, I thought that the rise of both Uber and Lyft over the past few years would translate into an increase for public transportation in the US, but any increase appears to be extremely minor. History of the US's percentage for public transportation:

11/8/2017 - 6.70%
7/22/2015 - 6.38%
8/13/2012 - 5.98%
2/24/2009 - 6.52%

So apart from the 2009 result, the public transportation percentage has gone up in both polls after 2012, but the increase is so small that I don't think Uber and Lyft are really affecting things here. Both companies help fill in a void that the US is severely deficient in, their poor public transportation infrastructure.
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Awesome, a playrate poll for Galaxy 1:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6895-

We don't get too many playrate polls for modern games, so this is nice to see.
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LeonhartFour 11/11/2017 9:07:23 PM#138
LeonhartFour 11/12/2017 9:01:25 PM#139
And now a playrate poll for the original Assassin's Creed:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6896-
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LeonhartFour 11/12/2017 9:02:13 PM#141
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Over 50% playrate for a non-Nintendo modern game is quite good. Currently at 54.73% for the original Assassin's Creed and 63.18% for the series as a whole.

Galaxy 1 had a playrate of 59.58% in its poll yesterday. I'll wait until today's poll result goes final before adding both playrate results to the Board 8 wiki.
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Advokaiser 11/13/2017 5:07:32 PM#143
LeonhartFour posted...
also darn it I just realized we missed the ten year anniversary of L-Block's victory

https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2925-tournament-final-link-cloud-l-block-snake


You of all people? Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of L-Block as a past champion, but weren't you like really upset for it or something?
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LeonhartFour 11/13/2017 5:12:11 PM#144
I haven't gotten "really upset" about a contest result since Kuja/Master Hand.

I have clear preferences for what I would like to happen, of course, and I'm not a fan of L-Block at all, but 2007 was a great contest.
HaRRicH 11/13/2017 5:58:12 PM#145
Kuja/Master Hand, any chance Kuja could turn it around in a rematch? I'm still taking MH, but FF9's gone up in stock and I think Kuja's been in Dissidia since then too.
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LeonhartFour 11/13/2017 5:58:51 PM#146
Lopen 11/13/2017 6:00:34 PM#147
I think Kuja would win a rematch

Not because of Kuja's stock going up per se as much as a side effect of vote totals being gutted
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Aww yeah, the ... option is getting the joke vote in today's poll:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6897-

I'll track this poll just for the potential trends here.

Also, the ... option lost the lead to the "I don't care" option before we even reached the 1 minute mark.
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swirIdude 11/14/2017 7:16:59 PM#149
Lopen posted...
I think Kuja would win a rematch

Not because of Kuja's stock going up per se as much as a side effect of vote totals being gutted


But "it's a damn glove" would be more likely to catch a silly rally. And remember that SSBM fans have rallied before.
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