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But Mario kart had Mario characters. Dkr had Diddy, banjo and conker plus 5 rare characters nobody remembers. You're crippling 97s chances if you replace Mario kart 64

haloiscoolisbak posted...

But Mario kart had Mario characters. Dkr had Diddy, banjo and conker plus 5 rare characters nobody remembers. You're crippling 97s chances if you replace Mario kart 64

It's still a better game...

Ocarina of Time would still be the best game ever if some random dude named Bonzo was in it instead of Link.


I didn't argue that DKR would give a better pic, just it's a better game.

Though admittedly, having DRK probably helps more than having MK64 when going up against the strongest Mario Platformer ever, AND Mario RPG ever....

Yeah, I was all aboard the DKR train back in the 90s. It had a surprisingly robust story mode, a cool overworld, secrets in the overworld and on the tracks, upgradeable power-ups, freakin BOSS races, and three different vehicle types. It also wasn't as random as Mario Kart (you knew which power ups you were getting and could strategize accordingly).

It just seemed like DKR had Mario Kart 64 outclassed in every possible way, BUT I couldn't really analyze level layouts back then, so I don't know which game had the better tracks.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Yeah, I was all aboard the DKR train back in the 90s. It had a surprisingly robust story mode, a cool overworld, secrets in the overworld and on the tracks, upgradeable power-ups, freakin BOSS races, and three different vehicle types. It also wasn't as random as Mario Kart (you knew which power ups you were getting and could strategize accordingly).

It just seemed like DKR had Mario Kart 64 outclassed in every possible way, BUT I couldn't really analyze level layouts back then, so I don't know which game had the better tracks.

MK had the longer tracks, I would argue DKR had the better designed tracks as a whole. But the MK ones definitely had better scenery and things around them and such.

Mario Kart 64 and Diddy Kong Racing were both great for different reasons. Was cool withe either representing the year

EmDubyaSee posted...

haloiscoolisbak posted...

But Mario kart had Mario characters. Dkr had Diddy, banjo and conker plus 5 rare characters nobody remembers. You're crippling 97s chances if you replace Mario kart 64

It's still a better game...

Ocarina of Time would still be the best game ever if some random dude named Bonzo was in it instead of Link.


I didn't argue that DKR would give a better pic, just it's a better game.

Though admittedly, having DRK probably helps more than having MK64 when going up against the strongest Mario Platformer ever, AND Mario RPG ever....

i would argue the opposite. i think in this contest years need wide representation, but not that wide. i think its more important to get at least one mario, final fantasy and zelda game pic in your years rotation set(or 2 out of 3 if all 3 is impossible) than anything else. getting mariokart 64 in there is more likely to level the playing field rather than cause SFF or whatever you think might happen. DKR wont add much IMO

I have to say I never liked Diddy Kong Racing. It always felt clunky where MK64 felt smooth

haloiscoolisbak posted...

But Mario kart had Mario characters. Dkr had Diddy, banjo and conker plus 5 rare characters nobody remembers. You're crippling 97s chances if you replace Mario kart 64

I wasn't actually serious. I just wanted to remind everyone of Diddy's superiority.

hey Allen you should put Diablo in 96's pic just to rub people the wrong way

transcience posted...

hey Allen you should put Diablo in 96's pic just to rub people the wrong way

I tried. I really did.

The game came out on December 31st which f***ing counts dammit.

I'm gonna be showing my young age here but I don't really think MK64 or DKR are all that great, especially compared to what we have today. DKR is probably better but they're both in the "fine I guess," categories for me. MK didn't get great until Double Dash IMO. I felt this way about MK64 at release too, but I didn't play DKR until like 2007.

I should probably play Crash Racing to see how I feel about that at some point.

charmander6000 posted...

While this match has more votes (we're looking at around 19k total) it is unlikely that a significant rally is occurring. A spike in vote total was already apparent early in the match with the expect total hovering around 19k. We saw this last contest when we went from four matches to two. I guess people felt pressured to vote in both matches.

There was probably also another increase in vote totals going from 2 matches per day to 1 match per day in the last contest, but this was impossible to determine because we had 1 match per day for the final 3 days of the contest, where rallying significantly inflated the vote totals of all 3 matches.

I like Bomberman Hero more than 64 tbh.

EmDubyaSee posted...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

So 1987 is a powerhouse? Could be because all the big franchises that got their start that year.

It started 2 of the 4 most iconic gaming series ever, and 3 of the 10.
And on this site... 3 of the 4 most iconic ever. Including the top 2.

Yes, the only reason it is so powerful is because it began LoZ, FF and Metroid.

Are you saying Final Fantasy is from 1987? It's from 1990, The SMB3 year.

UltimaterializerX posted...

transcience posted...

hey Allen you should put Diablo in 96's pic just to rub people the wrong way

I tried. I really did.

The game came out on December 31st which f***ing counts dammit.

That's a weird release date.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

I like Bomberman Hero more than 64 tbh.

I like them about equally, but The Second Attack! is easily my favorite.

Saturn Bomberman is the GOAT bomberman

64 is mediocre and hero kinda sucks but I haven't played either in like over 16 years

sballen why didn't you add kh2 and gsc to the match pics when people complained???

tennisboy213 posted...

sballen why didn't you add kh2 and gsc to the match pics when people complained???

It's not as easy to get that done when there isn't a tangible mistake with the match pic. This time, we had two Crashes in the pic.

creativename posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

So 1987 is a powerhouse? Could be because all the big franchises that got their start that year.

It started 2 of the 4 most iconic gaming series ever, and 3 of the 10.
And on this site... 3 of the 4 most iconic ever. Including the top 2.

Yes, the only reason it is so powerful is because it began LoZ, FF and Metroid.

Are you saying Final Fantasy is from 1987? It's from 1990, The SMB3 year.

But we just had the 30th Anniversary of FF....

the Japanese did yes

The contest goes by North American dates. Like Pokemon just had it's 20th anniversary celebration last year because it came out in Japan in 1996. However, it came out in the US in 1998 so it counts as a 1998 game in the contest.

Man, figures the one time Allen pulls his head out of his ass to fix a horribly rigged picture, it is against my bracket.

How about we redo 1996/2000 with proper representation while we're catering to the whiners?

Redo the contest with no games in the match pics, just the numbered years.

I'm kidding. That would be lame af.

Team Rocket Elite posted...

The contest goes by North American dates. Like Pokemon just had it's 20th anniversary celebration last year because it came out in Japan in 1996. However, it came out in the US in 1998 so it counts as a 1998 game in the contest.

I knew this.... Just forgot because I am constantly inundated by FF 30th stuff...


Anyway, my god though, I didn't know it came out that late in the NES's life in NA, it makes sense why we never got II or III here now... FF came out the last real year of the NES before the SNES ran it over.

Team Rocket Elite posted...

The contest goes by North American dates. Like Pokemon just had it's 20th anniversary celebration last year because it came out in Japan in 1996. However, it came out in the US in 1998 so it counts as a 1998 game in the contest.

That's why it's a flawed contest.

Match XXX – Round 3 – 1997 vs. 1996

Previous Results

1997
Round 1: Defeated 1999, 77.25% - 22.75%
Round 2: Defeated 2007, 70.98% - 29.02%

1996
Round 1: Defeated 1989, 83.69% - 16.31%
Round 2: Defeated 2000, 51.38% - 48.62%

Analysis

I still maintain that with a better picture 2000 would have defeated 1996 and I would have still been alive in the guru. My bracket had 2000 winning this match so it’ll be an auto loss for me. Anyway back to the actual match. 1997 will be going into the match as the favourite. Final Fantasy VII is arguably the strongest game between the two years though I’d imagine quite a few people would go with Super Mario 64. After that Super Mario RPG is likely the next strongest game, but due to its overlap with Super Mario 64 it may not bring as much support.

In terms of depth I would have to give 1997 the advantage. Mario Kart 64 and Star Fox 64 likely take out Crash Bandicoot and Kirby Super Star though SFF/LFF may be the only way 1996 could win. If Nintendo fans can concentrate around 1996 while Playstation fans are split an upset could occur. I think there is a good chance of this happening. Nintendo SFF has always been massive; I mean we saw it in 2009 though GoldenEye 007 held up relatively well which could spell disaster for the year. Meanwhile outside of characters/games from the same series Playstation tends to avoid a lot of SFF. Sure Final Fantasy VII and Castlevania: SotN would easily win over Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider, but they could end up costing more votes.

I don’t think 1996 will cause the upset. The lack of Resident Evil hurts an already shallow 1996. I still feel 2000 would have won this match and if this match turns out to be close I will at least feel in the back of my mind a bit shortchanged.

charmander6000’s Bracket: 2000 > 1997

charmander6000’s Prediction: 1997 wins, 56.15% - 43.85%

Well, 1995 fought valiantly through the day vote. The lead is a little smaller now than it was before the ASV started. 800 votes, such a shame.

Something occurred to me. We all assume that the site is full of adults. But if Allen is telling the truth and unique visitors are higher than ever, maybe it's only old school people that use the homepage because they are old and used to it? Thus biasing the poll voting, making it totally different than the site overall?

Anyone think this could be possible?

I actually do think this site skews older than most gaming sites (though all gaming sites should be older than they used to be, as gamers are getting older), but the homepage visitors might skew even older than the boards.

Yeah, I think it's safe to say that the homepage visitors and regular visitors to the site skew older than the people who just Google their games and come here when a guide shows up.

Then again, I'm a few hours short of 30 and I do the same thing when I need gaming help, and I visit this place daily.

creativename posted...

Something occurred to me. We all assume that the site is full of adults. But if Allen is telling the truth and unique visitors are higher than ever, maybe it's only old school people that use the homepage because they are old and used to it? Thus biasing the poll voting, making it totally different than the site overall?

Anyone think this could be possible?

I actually do think this site skews older than most gaming sites (though all gaming sites should be older than they used to be, as gamers are getting older), but the homepage visitors might skew even older than the boards.

I've concluded that this is likely the case. I'm willing to bet a lot of younger people visit the site (under 18 people) but most of them are bypassing the homepage from a Google search result and never see the polls. Because of this, the age polls do not accurately represent the average age of the site visitors as a whole. The people voting in the polls are the long-time users of the site and know where to find the poll, so this skews the age poll results quite a bit.

The age poll polls the people who visit the front page. It may not match the demographics of the users on the site, but it should roughly match the demographics of the people who visit the front page and vote in polls.

1996 is going to break 45% on 1997, despite having the weaker anchor AND less depth.

Well, it's my 30th birthday for this upcoming match, and it's my only upset in the Guru. Come on 1996, make me proud!

(and if it doesn't, at least I helped get my second favorite game into the fold where it belongs)

whoa look at SBAllen on the leaderboard!

and I'm back too!

haven't missed a match since 2006/2011

Down to two perfects.

34.SBAllen - 38

The pictures make sense now

>_>

oh hey i'm back on the leaderboard

SBAllen is on the leaderboard? No wonder he's rigging these pics!

Man, double sniped.

SBALLEN YOU GOT SOME SPLAININ TO DO

bet he had 1990 > 2000

Would make me laugh if he won the $1000

I would assume his is a fun bracket

1997 trying to pull away

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the friends and family clause is in effect for Allen's bracket.

SMRPGs sprites are fine. Allen is such a fuddy duddy.

Go 1997! Even if '96 has SMRPG and Suikoden....

Well at this rate, my picture saltiness will be for naught because 1997 is simply looking too strong for 01 next round.

1997 is going to the Finals barring a Melee rally.

Big surge in the final minute to get 1997 over 60% at the freeze.