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OrangeCrush980 posted...

Metal_DK posted...

The fact that the year its in is losing to a mid card year (2005) in the first round shows a lot. Also undertale was super popular for like 3 months on the internet, and pretty much saw an exponential decline in popularity/discussion/purchases. Ya, that screams fad.

2015 didnt need to win the f***ing contest, but if a year contains a game that caused what it did last contest, ya 2015 needed to beat a meh 2005.

Undertale was popular during the Casual Revolution. Now that that era over, it's nothing special.

gets it

LinkMarioSamus posted...

FlyingForever posted...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

FlyingForever posted...

RE4 was my main reason to stick with 05 > 03

After last contest I would be very surprised if RE4 beat Wind Waker.

Yeah I do have the Zelda fear but SotC has always been loved so the combo helps. If it was MM instead of Wind Waker I would have stuck with the Zelda fear. Oh well, guess we shall see.

Okay now I see your point. It's just that earlier you said RE4 was the primary deciding factor even though we all but know that Wind Waker would smack it down pretty easily (you see what Mario RPG did to poor RE4?).

The thought of RE4 getting crapped on by all these Nintendo games disgusts me, but that's GameFAQs for you I guess.

I always feel bad for RE4 when it gets smacked around by Nintendo games but it is what it is unfortunately :/

No matter the contest the winner will always be based on the majority, and from what Ive read multiple times before the majority on this site is nintendo fans.

Correct me if im wrong, its been awhile.

OrangeCrush980 posted...

Metal_DK posted...

The fact that the year its in is losing to a mid card year (2005) in the first round shows a lot. Also undertale was super popular for like 3 months on the internet, and pretty much saw an exponential decline in popularity/discussion/purchases. Ya, that screams fad.

2015 didnt need to win the f***ing contest, but if a year contains a game that caused what it did last contest, ya 2015 needed to beat a meh 2005.

Undertale was popular during the Casual Revolution. Now that that era over, it's nothing special.

Not to mention 2015 was average anyway bar witcher 3.

rezzah posted...

No matter the contest the winner will always be based on the majority, and from what Ive read multiple times before the majority on this site is nintendo fans.

Correct me if im wrong, its been awhile.

It's always been that way.

Metal_DK posted...

charmander6000 posted...

Though to say Undertale was a fad because it isn't popular on GameFAQs is wrong. League of Legends is hugely popular and as a Nintendo example Animal Crossing is one of the most popular series and is yet ignored here. Gaming has become quite diverse, a hugely popular game at one corner is barely noticed in another.

A game like Undertale was never going to be the next Mario or Zelda, it was going to be more like an Earthbound.

Its a fad on the internet in general. Undertale was super popular for a few months in the internet sphere. League of Legends is massive still today, and its getting close to 10 years old.

Undertale had the same popularity arc as any single-player game - it was released, occupied the public mindshare for a while, and then faded because there wasn't anything to talk about anymore. The fans are still there and still love the game, they just moved on to other things. I don't know why anyone would expect it to be any different. Single-player games can never occupy a cultural zetgeist for longer than a few months. League of Legends is still extremely popular because it's a multiplayer game that is continuously updated. Those are very different beasts...and I still think it would be impossible to rally on GameFAQs again, even if the subreddit allowed it. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

Agreed that single player games never stay in the public as long. But wouldn't say....super metroid's year being about as strong as its ever been and undertale's year looking like s*** prove there is some fad aspects to undertales popularity?

I mean undertale mauled Ocarina and now is losing to 2005...a year maybe about as strong as like Auron or something in a character contest

Lightning does strike twice though. Lblock, draven, and undertale are all the same concept on the contest.

KamikazePotato posted...

Lightning doesn't strike twice.

if only

square has a raging hard on for her

lightning tha best

Were people expecting another 2015 rally?

Undertale is in the Portal slot. Had Portal come out during the age of extreme social media frenzy, it would have won a games contest on this site. And just as quickly as Portal was in the public lexicon, it dropped to the status it probably should have been this whole time.

Undertale is the same thing. It'll always make these contests and will never be a pure jobber, but it's in the 12-14 seed territory from now on. And I'm okay with that. Undertale gave me my favorite contest run ever and is one of the best games ever made.

Draven wouldn't win a contest again is what I meant. League of Legends as a whole wouldn't either. They already did it once. There will always be some people going "hey let's rally again!!" but the vast majority wouldn't bother.

Undertale had monstrous strength because a disproportionately large number of Undertale fans were brought to the site. You realize how close we were to the same thing happening with Witcher 3? CD Projekt Red literally said they would have rallied but only realized it was in the contest until a few days after it had lost.

And if anything, Super Metroid was weaker before it became an AGDQ fad !

KamikazePotato posted...

You realize how close we were to the same thing happening with Witcher 3?

god

what could have been

I just want to say thank you for no rallies I can finally enjoy a contest again

Undertale didn't even start cutting ME3 until like 17 hours into the match.

I agree with what KP is saying, and I think this match is 99.9% locked in, but with rallies winning our last two contests (the last time we had a non-rallied, "traditional" contest winner was six years ago), I won't feel that last 0.1% of assurance until 9 p.m. Pacific.

KamikazePotato posted...

Draven wouldn't win a contest again is what I meant. League of Legends as a whole wouldn't either. They already did it once. There will always be some people going "hey let's rally again!!" but the vast majority wouldn't bother.

Undertale had monstrous strength because a disproportionately large number of Undertale fans were brought to the site. You realize how close we were to the same thing happening with Witcher 3? CD Projekt Red literally said they would have rallied but only realized it was in the contest until a few days after it had lost.

And if anything, Super Metroid was weaker before it became an AGDQ fad !

I can't wait to play Witcher 3.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Undertale didn't even start cutting ME3 until like 17 hours into the match.

I agree with what KP is saying, and I think this match is 99.9% locked in, but with rallies winning our last two contests (the last time we had a non-rallied, "traditional" contest winner was six years ago), I won't feel that last 0.1% of assurance until 9 p.m. Pacific.

Even before the rally came on I noticed the vote totals were higher, like we were heading to easily break 40k then when everything was at around 38k. Today the vote totals are around the average.

Not sure I understand this result. I took 2015, not even considering the possibility of an Undertale rally. It's just such a better year than 2005. 2005 is similar to 1995 in that it had 2 good games (SotC and RE4) and then a giant pile of trash. Meanwhile, 2015 had Witcher 3, MGS5 and Rocket League, all untested and all fantastically good games. Additionally, Undertale had its own intrinsic strength on this site that let it go even with ME3 before the rallying started.

This is the first result of this contest so far that just doesn't make sense to me.

2015 is really new

I bet this result would make more sense if we could somehow compare GameFAQs playrates of RE4, SotC, and God of War versus Witcher III, MGS5, and Rocket League.

Also, Undertale wasn't "going even" with ME3 before the rallying - it was losing 65/35. As far as we know, that's the only time we've seen its intrinsic, non-rallied strength on this site, and it wasn't impressive. I guess it would naturally be stronger now since its contest run must have upped its notoriety and playrate.

2015 deserves to lose for excluding Bloodborne

2006 losing to 2011 is the only one that i can't get my head around.A Zelda,KH and a FF game losing to a weaker Zelda and western stuff just goes against everything people on this site usually go for.

It's the best evidence that the picture matters. Kingdom Hearts II and Final Fantasy XII weren't in the picture while Twilight Princess was at the bottom.

Even if we look at head to head games; Skyward Sword probably defeats Okami (or it is very close), Skyrim SFFs Oblivion and Dark Souls defeats God of War. Twilight Princess may get a blowout against Mortal Kombat, but by that point fewer people would have noticed or they could have gone "2011 wins 3-1."

2015 makes a ton of sense when you factor in nostalgia value

it's simply not old enough regardless of the quality of the games

GameFAQs doesn't care about Rocket League, and MGS bombed in the last contest. Hell, it's debatable it cares about Undertale, since it got fourth in that Game of the Year poll. It's running mostly on Witcher III and Fallout 4.

I'm real nervous about next round since I have 2005 winning. I don't know how much of this site has actually played KoToR, since it was originally an Xbox exclusive and this site doesn't care for PC gaming much. I imagine a lot of its strength in the past comes from the Star Wars name and its reputation, especially post-Mass Effect (back in the day it lost to Vice City). I can't help but feel it'd be more vulnerable in a "Best Year" scenario. Wind Waker might be carrying that year by itself.

On the other hand, RE4's not what it used to be either. SotC has strength, but it's not a worldbeater.

Big Bob posted...

I'm real nervous about next round since I have 2005 winning

you messed up!

If SBAllen adds Pokemon R/S to 2003's Zelda/KotOR duo, I'd feel better about its chances. I've heard that R/S is among the weaker Pokemon gens, but it'd still help against a year like 2005, which is very light in Nintendo offerings.

Tbh 2005 was a pretty awful year for games.Off the top of my head i could only remember RE4.Having quickly skimmed a wiki list of the year i bought Timesplitters 3 and Driver 3 and that was it for the year.I spent most of it playing Counter Strike:Source though.

2005 was seen as a pretty awful gaming year back in the day, but it's gotten a bit better with the emergence of SotC as a legitimately strong game (definitely #2 in its year, and it ain't far behind RE4) and Phoenix Wright as the birth of a series/character that has grown around here.

shane15 posted...

2006 losing to 2011 is the only one that i can't get my head around.A Zelda,KH and a FF game losing to a weaker Zelda and western stuff just goes against everything people on this site usually go for.

This site loves RPGs in general and 2011 has a ton of those. It has more depth, and FFXII is not strong. It was a better year overall and I think voters recognise that. 2015 still needs time to settle.

This site loves RPGs in general and 2011 has a ton of those.

What?

2011 had the most liked game out of both years, Skyrim

I outlined my reasoning for 11>06 earlier. Basically 06 got pic screwed in every way possible. There might also be some sort of synergy between the 2011 games, but yeah. 06 is definitely a stronger year just based on individual game merits.

Skyrim, Dark Souls, Witcher, Deus Ex, Pokemon, as opposed to 2006 which has Oblivion, KHII, and FFXII. I know which year looks better for the site's favourite genre.

I am strongly opposed to the notion of the picture mattering significantly (especially since surely Mortal Kombat hurt 2011). 2011 has a far stronger, and most importantly larger, lineup, and the strongest top game.

Dude, that's 5 games and let's be real here, GameFAQs doesn't care about Witcher 2 or Deus Ex.

If 06 would have come to bat with

KHII -> TP -> Okami (or FFXII) -> Oblivion

then it could have won. 2011 basically had the best possible pics (I argue that rounding out the quartet with an awesome Subz/Scorpion picture was even better than Portal 2 or Uncharted 3) in the best possible order.

I'm getting more buttfurious the more I think about it.

Dunno how to put this, but maybe people are really voting based on memories of the year and not just the games that came out.

Lightning Strikes posted...

Skyrim, Dark Souls, Witcher, Deus Ex, Pokemon, as opposed to 2006 which has Oblivion, KHII, and FFXII. I know which year looks better for the site's favourite genre.

Witcher 2 and Deus Ex are nothing while Pokemon Black/White won't add much, but the point is moot since the average person won't remember all those games in the poll.

2006 wouldn't have crushed 2011, but there's little doubt it would have won.

People talking about rallying for 2015 because of Undertale might as well say that if we run "Best country ever" contest Russia will be a powerhouse because of Tetris

Honestly it's more like saying Great Britain would win because of Gordon Ramsey but I see what you're sayin

I mean really let's compare the lineups:

2006
Twilight Princess
Kingdom Hearts 2
Oblivion
Okami
Gears of War
...Dead Rising?

2011
Skyrim
Skyward Sword
Dark Souls
Pokemon Black and White
Arkham City
Portal 2
Uncharted 3
Deus Ex
Mortal Kombat
Witcher 2
Gears of War 3
And more

Depth matters, and the deeper year won.

Skyrim isn't even the strongest game there. Twilight Princess outperformed it significantly in the 2015 contest. People tend to ignore how strong TP is because it doesn't have as many diehard fans, but it's always been up there.

Nanis23 posted...

People talking about rallying for 2015 because of Undertale might as well say that if we run "Best country ever" contest Russia will be a powerhouse because of Tetris

Naa North Korea would win that

Lightning Strikes posted...

I mean really let's compare the lineups:

2006
Twilight Princess
Kingdom Hearts 2
Oblivion
Okami
Gears of War
...Dead Rising?

2011
Skyrim
Skyward Sword
Dark Souls
Pokemon Black and White
Arkham City
Portal 2
Uncharted 3
Deus Ex
Mortal Kombat
Witcher 2
Gears of War 3
And more

Depth matters, and the deeper year won.

If this is the argument you'd rather make, fine, I can buy this. I just don't have faith that the majority of voters are stopping to think "hmm, let me remember every game that came out this year before I vote".

KamikazePotato posted...

Skyrim isn't even the strongest game there. Twilight Princess outperformed it significantly in the 2015 contest. People tend to ignore how strong TP is because it doesn't have as many diehard fans, but it's always been up there.

I'd argue Kingdom Hearts II would have a very close match, if not win against Skyrim too (it did get almost 45% against Melee). If you ignore SFF Oblivion likely defeats everything not Skyrim while Okami defeats everything outside of Skyrim and Skyward Sword (probably).

I think 85% of the voters just look at the first couple pics in the rotation and that's all they know about the year. Probably not even all 4 - and 2006's strongest game was saved for last. Oops! Maybe 10% click the question mark?

Or people might just have more fond memories of gaming in 2011 than 2006? Doesn't help that the former is more recently and the impact of those games is being felt far more. Just throwing in my two cents.

As for Twilight Princess outperforming Skyrim in the last contest:

-The gap might have narrowed a bit.
-Most of the people who vote for TP in its contest matches are probably not HUGE fans of the game...then again 43% on Mario 64 is nothing to sniff at. I dunno.

I don't think anyone would argue that 2011 is a deeper year overall, but I similarly don't think anyone would (or SHOULD) argue that 2006 has the superior top 4-5. TP, KHII, FFXII, Okami, and Oblivion are simply stronger than any half-dozen games from 2011. It didn't get to showcase that strength in a fair way.

Perhaps 2006 being incredibly front-loaded was the problem?

Or heck, maybe this contest simply doesn't work that way?

KamikazePotato posted...

Skyrim isn't even the strongest game there. Twilight Princess outperformed it significantly in the 2015 contest. People tend to ignore how strong TP is because it doesn't have as many diehard fans, but it's always been up there.

Actually TP would only get less than 52% on Skyrim based on 2015, and I would probably take Skyrim if the two ever met. The remaster of Skyrim beat TPHD in GotY as well, even though it was a bad port. TP is strong but I would take Skyrim in a narrow win due to that lack of diehards. And 2011's secondary tier just creams 2006's.