Monster update for Mario World, while Mario 3 really fell off a cliff there. With that update, Mario World increases its percentage on Mario 3 up to 57.80%.
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Most of the board knew SMW > SMB3, the real question was where SM64 fit in.
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charmander6000 posted...
So what percentage of SMB votes would go to SMB3 oppose to SMW?

Wouldn't be surprised if it was like 75%

Much less sure which game SMB2 is sapping.
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Mario 3 seems to be getting hurt real badly by NES LFF here. With that latest update, Mario World is putting 59.21% on Mario 3, which no one would ever expect to see in an actual contest match. Mario World by itself has over 50% in this poll, so there is no question that it is the strongest 2D Mario (even if Mario 3 absorbs all of the votes from Mario 1 and Mario 2).
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Though yeah I guess given the gap here SMB2 disproportionately sapping 3 is likely.
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Devin Morgan posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Also, in the "only the stats topic will care" category, I convinced him to finally let POTD searches yield more than one page of results if you get more than 50.

You're welcome!


Yeeeees, thanks guys! Always meant to suggest it, but never did...glad other people thought it was a good idea too.



Kinda wish the New SMB-games were included today so we could judge them more specifically by genre instead of just era...but it's still neat.

SMW looks like its arguments for winning Division 3 was rightfully defendable. I'd probably still pick RBY since there's LFF here and I don't know how much SMW beats SMB3 indirectly or in other SFF situations...but SMW looks good.
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Stall! The 12:45 AM update was the first update where Mario 3 and Mario World were tied on an update. It's only a matter of time until Mario 3 finally wins an update.
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At the end of the first hour, this poll has only 1998 votes. The odds are fairly good that we break 20000 votes on this poll, though it's possible we could end up with less than 20000 votes. 19500 to 22000 votes is the likely range for our final vote totals on this poll.

At the 1:10 AM update, Mario 3 finally cuts Mario World for the first time. It was only a 1 vote cut.
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Almost 50% of the vote for Mario World, huh. Only in a best case scenario (All the other votes go to Mario 3) does Mario 3 win.

What a sad age we live in now.
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At the end of the first hour, this poll has only 1998 votes. The odds are fairly good that we break 20000 votes on this poll, though it's possible we could end up with less than 20000 votes. 19500 to 22000 votes is the likely range for our final vote totals on this poll.

At the 1:10 AM update, Mario 3 finally cuts Mario World for the first time. It was only a 1 vote cut.

Votals for non-contest polls have always sucked.
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We know they suck, at least when compared to contest polls. When it comes to evaluating the vote totals for non-contest polls, I base them off what our average vote totals have looked like over the past 30 days (ignoring stuff like GotY polls which mess up the averages quite a bit). Over the past 30 days, average vote totals currently stand at 21647 votes. A poll that receives more votes than that average is labeled as getting above average vote totals. Or if it's less votes than that average, then I say that poll has gotten below average vote totals.

Today's 2D Super Mario Bros. poll is probably on track for below average vote totals (less than our current average of 21647 votes). To put that into perspective, let's look at some of the recent polls that have gotten more votes than today's poll (assuming a maximum projection of 22000 votes):

26191 - Which of the three current consoles do you now own?
25680 - What do you miss most about classic video games?
25654 - Are you right-handed or left-handed?
24952 - Can you name all nine playable Final Fantasy VII characters?
23858 - Which of the two current portable systems do you now own?
23830 - 19 Years Later: Got Final Fantasy VII?
23311 - On what type of device did you play your last video game?
23291 - How often do you actually turn off your computer?

That is only a sample of some of the polls that will ultimately end up with more votes than today's poll. Although I realize today's poll has some LFF involved here and we know from past polls that SFF/LFF polls do end up getting less votes than usual, but that didn't stop a 14-way Final Fantasy poll from getting meteoric vote totals that would almost be on par with an age poll.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Almost 50% of the vote for Mario World, huh. Only in a best case scenario (All the other votes go to Mario 3) does Mario 3 win.

What a sad age we live in now.

How? Mario 3's my favorite by far but World is also really f***ing good so it's not like one game's losing to a clearly inferior game, it's two fantastic games duking it out with enough LFF to make the results questionable.
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Do you think Yoshi Island would LFF World to the point SMB3 is #1?
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Doubt it would be enough.

It seems pretty clear that SMW is stronger, but obviously not by as much as the poll suggests. RBY vs. SMW could've been one hell of a match.
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Do you think Yoshi Island would LFF World to the point SMB3 is #1?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3485-division-4-round-2-s-mario-64-csotn-c-trigger-yoshis-island

based on this I'd say probably not
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Super Mario Sunshine beating out Super Mario Galaxy with the early vote so far? Not something I was expecting here.

And Super Mario 3D World looks a lot better than I expected, at least for a Wii U game.


And not too long after I posted this, Galaxy has overtaken Sunshine.
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These vote totals are extremely awful. Only 186 votes at the freeze?
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2/5/2016 9:10:12 PM#369
Mario 64 is just on another level.

-LusterSoldier- posted...
These vote totals are extremely awful. Only 186 votes at the freeze?

Yeah was the one poll he mentioned I was worried about. The others are fine.
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Massive collapse for Mario 64 on that update, where it lost 5% there. It must have had an insane board vote.
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I don't even know what to vote here. I have the best memories of Sunshine, but that very likely wouldn't stand up to a replay (didn't play 64 until it was rereleased for DS). Galaxy is okay, but I feel like it's pretty overrated; it's my least favorite in the poll. I've only beaten like the first world of Galaxy 2 but I remember enjoying it. 3D World I played last year and really enjoyed.
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Not_Wylvane posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Almost 50% of the vote for Mario World, huh. Only in a best case scenario (All the other votes go to Mario 3) does Mario 3 win.

What a sad age we live in now.

How? Mario 3's my favorite by far but World is also really f***ing good so it's not like one game's losing to a clearly inferior game, it's two fantastic games duking it out with enough LFF to make the results questionable.


I feel that SMB3 actually IS noticeably above SMW from a gameplay and level design standpoint.

The real travesty, though, is SMB1 doing so poorly. Literally a top five game of all time.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Yeah was the one poll he mentioned I was worried about. The others are fine.


I could see the Smash Bros. poll with some bad vote totals too, as we know Smash is very weak in Europe and Asia. So expect poor voter turnouts in Europe and Asia. Although it depends on whether Allen actually includes an option for "I haven't played a single Smash Bros. game" in that poll.

The Pokemon poll most likely brings in the highest vote totals out of these 4 polls.


Ulti, I am not sure if you have read this post yet, but you should check it out:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/73084678/843469035

Yesterday's 2D Mario poll fell just short of 20000 votes and the vote totals from yesterday would be considered "below average vote totals" when compared to what other polls are generally getting. That's a disgrace when 3 of the games in the poll should have playrates of 90% or higher and overall playrate for the entire Super Mario series (played at least one game in the series) is over 98%.
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At least this poll shows that Super Mario 3D World could have given Mass Effect a close match as well. We already saw Galaxy 2 do the same thing in the actual contest, although you do have to consider Galaxy 1/Galaxy 2 LFF putting Super Mario 3D World ahead of Galaxy.
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1358 votes at the end of the first hour in today's poll. This is way behind yesterday's poll which had 1998 votes at the same point. It's a real shame that today's poll is getting vote totals on par with some of the GotY polls this year.
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So is this a roundabout excuse to pit Super Mario World against Super Mario 64 in the next poll?
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Galaxy 1 doubles Galaxy 2
Can someone explain to me what the hell Galaxy 1 does better?
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It came out first. Most people rank them at about the same, but Galaxy wins because it did it first.
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Galaxy 1 has a higher playrate than Galaxy 2 because it came out when people still cared about the Wii. Galaxy 2 came out after people started moving away from the Wii and the playrate is not going to be up to par with Galaxy 1. In a poll like this, the game with the higher playrate has the advantage.
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Yeah, Galaxy 1 came first, came at a better time, when Wii was the s***, and people love Rosalina. Galaxy 2 is 3D platforming perfection though.
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Yep, playrate...probably the same reason why SMS isn't in last place right now.
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My bracket had a bad time.
While there isn't a whole lot to talk about in this poll with Super Mario 64 crushing everything here, I think Super Mario 3D World could possibly be our second or third strongest Wii U game. And it's not even that far behind Galaxy 2, which had a close match with Mass Effect.

Right now, Super Mario 64 has 83.50% on Super Mario 3D World. No way does Super Mario Maker avoid being blown out even worse than that at the hands of Super Mario 64, making Super Mario 3D World a better Wii U (and Mario) game to have in the last contest instead of Super Mario Maker. Super Mario 64 put up 80.04% on Mario Kart 8, though that was a match where SFF appeared to be non-existent while there is some reason to believe that Super Mario 3D World could be getting hit with some SFF here.
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It's great to see Super Mario Sunshine not be in last place. Really underrated game.
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It's really terrible to see Super Mario 3D World coming in last place.

And man I'd love to talk it up, but let's not get too carried away with it being close to SMG2 when SMG2 is surely losing more votes to SMG1 than SM3DW is.

Also Galaxy 1 is obviously better than 2, the best thing about Galaxy is its creativity with gravity physics and SMG1 basically pioneered all of that, SMG2 just feels like an expansion pack (generally a pretty good one, but there are some egregious places it takes steps backwards like the Bowser fights). Also yeah, atmosphere does matter and Rosalina/the observatory/the storybook stuff >>> Lubba and Starship Mario.
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Galaxy is pretty much Galaxy 2's worst opponent so I wouldn't do much comparison even if everyone is getting SFF.
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NeoElfboy posted...
Also Galaxy 1 is obviously better than 2


Whoa now.

Galaxy 2 may have gone barebones in some areas (such as the story pretty much being non-existent, even for a Mario game, or the hub), but the level design is superior to Galaxy 1. Galaxy 1 was the experiment, and Galaxy 2 perfected what they started.
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Trend charts for yesterday's poll:

Time | SMB1 | SMB: LL | SMB2 | SMB3 | SMW
1:00 | 7.11% | 0.90% | 4.45% | 38.09% | 49.45%
2:00 | 7.46% | 0.75% | 3.86% | 40.07% | 47.86%
3:00 | 6.73% | 1.21% | 3.97% | 40.18% | 47.90%
4:00 | 7.89% | 0.27% | 5.03% | 39.59% | 47.21%
5:00 | 9.39% | 1.72% | 3.76% | 38.34% | 46.79%
6:00 | 8.03% | 1.17% | 4.35% | 41.81% | 44.65%
7:00 | 7.97% | 0.80% | 4.38% | 38.65% | 48.21%
8:00 | 7.21% | 1.01% | 4.73% | 39.53% | 47.52%
9:00 | 6.45% | 0.60% | 4.07% | 40.67% | 48.21%
10:00 | 7.38% | 1.18% | 4.28% | 38.16% | 49.00%
11:00 | 6.38% | 1.03% | 3.76% | 37.18% | 51.64%
12:00 | 6.21% | 0.55% | 3.99% | 39.58% | 49.67%
13:00 | 6.15% | 0.44% | 5.05% | 38.53% | 49.84%
14:00 | 4.21% | 0.99% | 4.21% | 41.96% | 48.64%
15:00 | 6.53% | 1.13% | 4.52% | 36.81% | 51.01%
16:00 | 7.15% | 0.64% | 4.47% | 39.46% | 48.28%
17:00 | 6.79% | 0.28% | 4.38% | 42.29% | 46.25%
18:00 | 6.99% | 0.84% | 4.76% | 39.72% | 47.69%
19:00 | 6.63% | 0.71% | 4.51% | 36.11% | 52.05%
20:00 | 5.83% | 0.47% | 3.46% | 40.31% | 49.92%
21:00 | 7.51% | 0.89% | 3.40% | 40.43% | 47.76%
22:00 | 6.82% | 1.33% | 4.73% | 36.36% | 50.76%
23:00 | 5.19% | 1.11% | 4.44% | 46.48% | 42.78%
24:00 | 5.95% | 1.23% | 3.70% | 35.52% | 53.59%

Time | SMB1 | SMB: LL | SMB2 | SMB3 | SMW
EBV | 7.58% | 0.36% | 3.61% | 40.79% | 47.65%
PHV | 7.11% | 0.90% | 4.45% | 38.09% | 49.45%
FNV | 7.76% | 0.98% | 4.15% | 39.99% | 47.11%
BSV | 7.13% | 0.79% | 4.38% | 39.71% | 47.98%
DSV | 6.28% | 0.89% | 4.22% | 38.72% | 49.89%
ASV | 6.71% | 0.74% | 4.34% | 39.14% | 49.07%
SNV | 5.55% | 1.17% | 4.09% | 41.29% | 47.91%

Mario 3 wins a grand total of one hour over Mario World in yesterday's poll. Mario World finishes with 55.36% on Mario 3 in yesterday's poll, which means the NES LFF hurting Mario 3 from the likes of Mario 1 and Mario 2 should result in a closer 1v1 match (around 51-52%).
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So far with this early vote, GSC is giving RBYG a run for its money. Perhaps this could be caused by anti-voting of RBYG by the early voters and I guess the anti-Genwunners are probably aware that GSC is the second most popular generation, meaning they're flocking to GSC to prevent RBYG from winning this poll.
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people always bash how bad sonic fan base is or how toxic the LoL community is but people always forget that pokemon has the dumbest fan base
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With this poll, I think you have to consider the possibility of the Gen 3 option hurting the Gen 1 option. All of the options focus on the main games released during each generation.

Someone who hates the original RBYG games but still thinks Gen 1 is their overall favorite because FR/LG redeems Gen 1 as a whole are stuck in a position where they have to either vote for the first option or the third option. So the Gen 1 option could be hurting the Gen 3 option because of this issue. I would have gone and set up the options like this:

Generation 1 (Kanto)
Generation 2 (Johto)
Generation 3 (Hoenn)
Generation 4 (Sinnoh)
Generation 5 (Unova)
Generation 6 (Kalos)
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spooky96 posted...
people always bash how bad sonic fan base is or how toxic the LoL community is but people always forget that pokemon has the dumbest fan base


Yep.

> Honestly thinking that Gen 1 is the best despite crappy UI and all the glitches.
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I think most of the actual fanbase prefers the later releases. I imagine most of the people who vote gen 1 have only played gen 1.

Wasn't part of the whole Undertale/RBY match the hardcore Pokemon fans anti-voting RBY to spite said gen 1-only voters?
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I've played every gen and I still prefer gens 1 and 2. While the later gens have definitely polished the gameplay, they just feel... less special. Don't get me wrong, they're still solid games, but it's just not quite the same!
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OrangeCrush980 posted...
spooky96 posted...
people always bash how bad sonic fan base is or how toxic the LoL community is but people always forget that pokemon has the dumbest fan base


Yep.

> Honestly thinking that Gen 1 is the best despite crappy UI and all the glitches.


If you think they consider the glitches a negative, you don't understand the gen 1 fanbase:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3789-jenova-division-round-1-crono-vs-missingno

Not_Wylvane posted...
I think most of the actual fanbase prefers the later releases. I imagine most of the people who vote gen 1 have only played gen 1.

Wasn't part of the whole Undertale/RBY match the hardcore Pokemon fans anti-voting RBY to spite said gen 1-only voters?


I think people just tend to prefer the gen they started with. I think a lot of those anti-votes were due to jealousy that Gen 1 was the most popular. For example, you see a lot of GSC supporters. While, GSC has more convenience features than RBY did, it is still missing the upgrades that would come out over the next decade and a half. Online trading is also sort of a big deal that's missing from the first 3 gens outside of Japanese Crystal.
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