GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1261
CT beats any Mario game very easily this year. Its not even close. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
FF9 will be proven legit when the finals for the next character contest are Vivi/Zidane! I do think 9's stock has risen significantly from the reduced votals. It's one of those games where it's not as popular as other games in its series, but the fanbase is very dedicated to it, and it just so happens that most of those loyal FF9 fans actually stuck with this site. Vivi was a freaking beast last contest, after all, and it's far from the only FF-shake up we saw (even barring Kefka being Kefka). --- Not_Wylvane (edited 12/16/2015 11:27:24 AM)report |
FF9
is just a more well-respected game as a whole these days. Has little to
do with votals, you can go to any part of the Internet and see that
it's stock has risen over time. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 12/16/2015 11:29:23 AM)report |
Hmm....votals
were already very low last contest. Barely higher than this one once
we switched to 2 polls per day. I wonder if most of the SNES boost
hadn't already happened by 2013, which would be bad, as Crono still lost
to Mario that year. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
AxemRedRanger posted... Undertale Rating Update: Shame to the spite-reviewers stuffing it with 0.5 star ratings just because it beat their favorites / because they think they need to counterbalance hype. Especially since I'm certain they are the same people making accusations of vote stuffing. |
LeonhartFour posted... Eh, I'd go with a quarter of B8 picking Mario Maker to win its fourpack. At least those people had the benefit of SMM being a complete unknown. Super Metroid beating a second-rate 3-D Mario game was a foregone conclusion --- DpObliVion, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats |
AxemRedRanger posted... http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=87 That is another fantastic choice. I never understood the FFX > CT argument. At least Melee > CT had some logic behind it pre-rally. --- DpObliVion, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats |
You
can't say FFX > CT had no logic but Melee > CT did unless you
were like KH and believed there was a rally coming for it. FFX and Melee
were and still are on the same level. Melee was going to get crushed
like FFX did without that rally. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
My
bracket sucked, but in retrospect I actually did pretty well with the
board's big debated matches, as I had CT > FFX, Super Metroid >
Galaxy 2, MGS3 > MGS1, and FF9 > KH1. Yet despite all that I had Skyrim in the finals. --- Not_Wylvane |
I
picked DQVIII to win that match, but it wasn't unreasonable to expect
that Persona has gone way up since 2010. I don't know if the stats back
this up, but it certainly feels like Persona 4 has at least trended way
up. I had Persona 3, it's just the match should have been at least more debated. --- Congrats to DpObliVion for winning the guru. |
Seeing
CT was 60-40ing Melee pre rally, I guess Melee actually is around FFX
level, because Melee is famous for bleeding in % >_> --- Congratulations to DpObliVion, the 2k15 BGE Guru champ! (edited 12/16/2015 12:12:09 PM)report |
I
still want to ask if anyone would actually pick Baldur's Gate II or
Deus Ex over Mario Maker since that's what the lol x-stats show. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
LinkMarioSamus posted... I still want to ask if anyone would actually pick Baldur's Gate II or Deus Ex over Mario Maker since that's what the lol x-stats show. You know what, sure, why not. --- Got wrecked in the Guru by the dastardly DpObliVion! |
Also
I just realized GotY is going to be pretty anticlimatic this year.
Maaaaybe Fallout 4 chokes and ends up not getting second place? --- Got wrecked in the Guru by the dastardly DpObliVion! |
Undertale is the greatest game of all time, but not the best game of 2015. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests?search=undertale Six pages --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Not_Wylvane posted... Also I just realized GotY is going to be pretty anticlimatic this year. Maaaaybe Fallout 4 chokes and ends up not getting second place? From what I've been reading around the boards, the Witcher 3 seems to be the heavy favorite to win in the poll. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
Undertale probanly takes it. Fallout and Witcher are the other candidates but hopefully they're not in the same poll. our top 3 games are best on PC who knew --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
red sox 777 posted... Hmm....votals were already very low last contest. Barely higher than this one once we switched to 2 polls per day. I wonder if most of the SNES boost hadn't already happened by 2013, which would be bad, as Crono still lost to Mario that year. I don't think Crono is necessarily all that good of a representative for how Chrono Trigger would do in games contests. He's too much of a proxy for his single game whereas most other strong characters have entire franchises and are in general more iconic. Plus a lot of people just aren't into silent protagonists. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO DpObliVion NO PEACE] |
Ayy star wars spoilers |
AxemRedRanger posted... Plus a lot of people just aren't into silent protagonists. Have you seen our #1 character? --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
I'm
leaning Fallout 4 over Witcher 3 since the former's more recent and
comes from a bigger-known series (and Fallout 3 is no slouch here
either), but Witcher 3's a lot better received in general than Fallout 4
and in GotY polls GameFAQs can be pretty diverse in its tastes so
Witcher 3 taking second wouldn't be a big surprise for me. --- Got wrecked in the Guru by the dastardly DpObliVion! |
MechanicalWall posted... AxemRedRanger posted...Plus a lot of people just aren't into silent protagonists. Oh, I don't know, Draven's quite chatty when he wants to be. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
MechanicalWall posted... AxemRedRanger posted...Plus a lot of people just aren't into silent protagonists. What are you talking about? Snake never stops asking questions! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
MechanicalWall posted... AxemRedRanger posted...Plus a lot of people just aren't into silent protagonists. Yes, I've seen him struggle to convincingly kill Cloud time and time again despite the latter only having one real game (that's never even been vastly stronger than Link's #1 game), some KH cameos, and a bunch of spinoffs that aren't well liked. I also saw him fail to get 54% on Snake despite having a vastly more powerful franchise. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO DpObliVion NO PEACE] (edited 12/16/2015 12:48:34 PM)report |
I will say at least anecdotally, I vote for Chrono Trigger a lot but I almost never vote for Crono. I know most people don't vote based on actual character, but some of us do. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
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Karma Hunter posted... I will say at least anecdotally, I vote for Chrono Trigger a lot but I almost never vote for Crono. I know most people don't vote based on actual character, but some of us do. I vote based on character sometimes. That's why I vote for Link when I'm not voting against him for winning too much. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Crono's
got one hell of a character moment despite being silent so I don't mind
voting for him when he's against someone who isn't Mario or Pokemon. --- Got wrecked in the Guru by the dastardly DpObliVion! |
Luster if you are reading this Will the updater be updated to include your manual updates tracking? --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
red sox 777 posted... Karma Hunter posted...I will say at least anecdotally, I vote for Chrono Trigger a lot but I almost never vote for Crono. I know most people don't vote based on actual character, but some of us do. ?? By Link I assume you mean your corrupted personal version of him...? He literally may be the most characterless protagonist I can think of. I mean, I love him too, because he's green and awesome and I was a kid like him back then, but "character" and him don't belong in the same sentence... :) --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Toon Link had some great character just in his emotions through Wind Waker. He didn't need to talk, his face always said it all. --- Got wrecked in the Guru by the dastardly DpObliVion! |
Nanis23 posted... Luster if you are reading this He's sent them to me. I'll add them later. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename posted... Nanis23 posted...Luster if you are reading this Ok, thanks --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Not_Wylvane posted... Also I just realized GotY is going to be pretty anticlimatic this year. Maaaaybe Fallout 4 chokes and ends up not getting second place? The more interesting thing is seeing if Tumblr tries to rally for Undertale in the GotY polls. It wouldn't even require a huge effort from them, considering most of the GotY polls won't be getting above 15000 votes. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as DpObliVion, Guru Champ! |
I think Undertale wins the GOTY polls without a rally. 33% on OOT with registered users is no joke. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
It depends on if people still care about sticking it to the establishment two weeks from now. --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
The Mana Sword posted... It depends on if people still care about sticking it to the establishment two weeks from now. Zelda fans have to vote for Undertale now, to minimize the humiliation. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
GotY
isn't nearly as big a deal anymore. We used it to determine which new
games might do damage in a contest. The answer seems to be "the one that
catches a rally. All others get killed by literally any SNES game." --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
But
sometimes those games fight other fodder games before getting blown up
by a SNES game. Like FE:A had to make it past Mario Maker to get to a
SNES game. --- My bracket got smashed by DpObliVion. Congrats to DpObliVion for winning the BGE15 Guru Contest! |
Alright, I've been poking around the stats a lot. Here are some findings: 1. In summary:There was a semi-major site shift that happened between 2009 and 2010 that was hidden by GotD. Strengths since 2010 have remained fairly static. 2. It turns out, Final Fantasy IX was actually about this strong in 2010 already. Multiple adjustments and comparions all come out to the exact same result - it was as strong as Resident Evil 4 in 2010, and is is about as strong as Resident Evil 4 now. If there was a 2010->2015 FF9 boost, it actually wasn't very big. Looks like the FFX SFF was pretty bad after all! It also overperformed slightly against OoT, but probably only by about 1%. 3. After adjusting FF9, you have to adjust KOTOR too (after accounting for it having a favorable day match)...which lets us also adjust Paper Mario 2 and Oblivion, which were hidden behind MM/WW SFF in 2010. 4. After doing so, it turns out that the PM2/ToS match was almost perfectly predicted by the stats...had they not been messed up by MM/WW SFF. 5. This also means, by the way, that Paper Mario 2 is comfortably stronger than Paper Mario 1. 6. It also means that Oblivion was almost as strong as RE4 in 2010! Looks like it boosted from 2009 to 2010, and that the SMRPG results from this year may actually be pretty legit. 7. It also means that Wind Waker was almost as strong as MM in 2010, and probably boosted from 2009. Looks like it got bit by the SFF bug badly back in 2010. It's also stronger than TP, apparently! 8. I also went ahead and adjusted Super Mario Galaxy (which was SFFd by TP) using SMG/Dragon Age this year, and the MGS games using MGS2/RE4 this year. 9. The long outlier to all this is Mass Effect 1, which appears to have gone up in strength since 2010. That all might seem confusing/reaching, but it's all stuff I'm very confident in and it makes everything line up extremely well so far. So, without further ado, here's some adjusted Game of the Decade stats: The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 50.00% Final Fantasy X 49.89% Super Smash Bros. Brawl 49.48% The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 48.85% Super Smash Bros. Melee 48.41% The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 46.76% Fallout 3 45.10% Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal 44.05% Metroid Prime 43.35% Resident Evil 4 43.09% Final Fantasy IX 42.89% The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 42.79% Kingdom Hearts II 42.74% Half-Life 2 42.72% Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 42.30% Kingdom Hearts 40.67% Super Mario Galaxy 40.48% Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 39.46% Shadow of the Colossus 39.30% Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 39.26% God of War 38.99% Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 38.96% Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 38.37% Portal 38.38% Tales of Symphonia 37.85% Grand Theft Auto III 37.45% BioShock 37.38% Diablo II 37.38% Batman: Arkham Asylum 37.16% Okami 36.27% Resident Evil 5 36.21% Paper Mario 35.96% Halo: Combat Evolved 35.54% Mass Effect 35.06% Golden Sun 34.26% There's plenty of room for error here (I think the KH2/KH1/Bioshock trio might be underrated still, based on KH2's performance against Melee this year) but it's already significantly more accurate than the old stats, which were already pretty darn good. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 12/16/2015 3:24:20 PM)report |
...Is FF7 going to get a cut sometime soon? Christ... --- Warning: I am a satirical person and don't care for other's sensitivities. If you have a problem with this, please block me and go away. |
All you need to do is adjust Fallout 3's quarter and those stats will look almost perfect. --- Congrats to DpObliVion for winning the guru. |
The
thing is, it's unlikely that Fallout 3 was overrated. If it had been,
then Deus Ex's 2010 X-stat value would have also been overinflated.
However, Deus Ex vs. Perfect Dark this year lines up absolutely
perfectly with the 2010 stats. Additionally, if Fallout 3 is overrated,
then Metroid Prime is overrated as well, and this year showed that not
to be the case! I think certain games like Halo 1 have fallen off the map, but overall Fallout 3's quarter stayed pretty solid. Even Batman, which we thought looked awful in Round 1, actually ended up pretty much where it was supposed to be by the time Division 1 was over. It still has a close match with Portal - it's even favored to win this time around. If there is Fallout 3 overration, it's pretty minor. P.S. Resident Evil 5 has got to have fallen off massively since then, right? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 12/16/2015 3:30:14 PM)report |
So, the Prime vs. Half-Life 2 sequel this year. Was that all spillover, or did Half-Life 2 like drop a bit as well? --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! DpObliVion is the new greatone. Congratulations to our Guru overlord. |
I know that character =\= game but in the next character battle, how far do you take Crono. Witch noble 9ers can he beat |
KamikazePotato posted... The thing is, it's unlikely that Fallout 3 was overrated. If it had been, then Deus Ex's 2010 X-stat value would have also been overinflated. However, Deus Ex vs. Perfect Dark this year lines up absolutely perfectly with the 2010 stats. Additionally, if Fallout 3 is overrated, then Metroid Prime is overrated as well, and this year showed that not to be the case! There was a Resident Evil 5? --- DpObliVion, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats |
_SecretSquirrel posted... So, the Prime vs. Half-Life 2 sequel this year. Was that all spillover, or did Half-Life 2 like drop a bit as well? Probably both. I'll be taking a look at that later...it's not a result that makes a lot of sense. Additional note: people said there was a Metroid Boost this contest, but it had probably already happened back in 2010! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 12/16/2015 3:36:43 PM)report |
foxhead84 posted... I know that character =\= game but in the next character battle, how far do you take Crono. Witch noble 9ers can he beat Maybe Sonic --- DpObliVion, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... There was a Resident Evil 5? Of course there was. Why would they skip straight to 6? http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/605603-resident-evil-6 >_> --- My bracket got smashed by DpObliVion. Congrats to DpObliVion for winning the BGE15 Guru Contest! |
