I checked the results. This is what I have to say
1st match=Melee doing very good. I guess the Smash Direct yesterday helps it.
2nd match=CT is really strong. Amazing.
3rd match=R/B/Y that good? Man!
4th match=There is spillover from the final match but I FF 7 would still lose anyway.

1)Undertale had 0.91% prediction rate. Is this the lowest ever? Can't remember L-Block.
2)Pokemon R/B/Y is the 2nd strongest game on this site for sure. Okay maybe 3rd.
3)OOT still amazing strong. Damn!

Well strange matches to tell the truth. Only one we expected was FF 7/OOT but the others not.
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Safer_777 posted...

2)Pokemon R/B/Y is the 2nd strongest game on this site for sure. Okay maybe 3rd.


Yeah, at this point I would probably place both CT and RBY above FFVII.
Ehhh I think I'd take FFVII > RBY. Even if I'm right it's probably within rally distance though.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Ehhh I think I'd take FFVII > RBY. Even if I'm right it's probably within rally distance though.


And considering how it's pretty hard to rally for FFVII, it would only need a small part of what it got against UT to push it over FFVII.
But even without rallies, I think it would be quite close.
31. Final Fantasy IX – 29.56%
32. Mega Man X – 29.50%

That right there is my biggest beef with the raw X-stats
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lol xstats
When the matches end, OOT will be above 60% vs FF 7 I can't understand it. The remake got announced, we saw gameplay, Cloud from today is in Smash Bros yet still. I told in Ulti's topic what I believe but still.
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Let's see what we have here.

* Melee putting the hurt on SMRPG is expected, but I expected it to be doing a little better than this. 36%? C'mon.
* Why didn't we get Chrono Trigger vs FFVII? Ugh. We didn't really need another FFVII/OoT matchup. CT destroying FFVI is expected.
* Red/Blue punching Mario 64's s*** in... Pokemon's really grown a lot more powerful on here since early last decade, huh?
* FFVII just can't hang with the big Zelda games anymore. Its strength has been in a slow gradual decline for years now and this is despite being boosted by the remake and Cloud in smash.
nopenopenopenop posted...
Let's see what we have here.

* Melee putting the hurt on SMRPG is expected, but I expected it to be doing a little better than this. 36%? C'mon.
* Why didn't we get Chrono Trigger vs FFVII? Ugh. We didn't really need another FFVII/OoT matchup. CT destroying FFVI is expected.
* Red/Blue punching Mario 64's s*** in... Pokemon's really grown a lot more powerful on here since early last decade, huh?
* FFVII just can't hang with the big Zelda games anymore. Its strength has been in a slow gradual decline for years now and this is despite being boosted by the remake and Cloud in smash.


Never understood this misconception that an FF7 remake announcement would help its strength. The only people excited about it at this point were voting for FF7 anyways.

Ditto for Cloud in Smash helping his games. We'll see a Cloud boost in the next Character Battle, but there's no reason for it to help his game's strength.
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lol xstats
I'm thinking, in a rally-less world, we would have looked at this top 8:

Chrono Trigger
FF7

RBY
Mario 64

Ocarina
LTTP

SMRPG
MGS3

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Chrono Trigger
RBY

Ocarina
SMRPG

looking through the Guru, the following people would have had 3/4 semifinalists:

Ocarina > RBY

Kenri (Ocarina/RBY/SMRPG) (best bracket)
AxemRedRanger (Ocarina/RBY/CT)
Haste2 (Ocarina/RBY/CT)

RBY > Ocarina

greatone (Ocarina/RBY/CT) (best bracket)
warning_crazy (Ocarina/RBY/CT)
Kibago (Ocarina/RBY/CT)

Ocarina > CT

red sox
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I still don't understand the CT > FF7 love. And I haven't seen anyone lay out an actual argument for it besides "CT IS T3h BESTEST!!!!!!!11111"
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lol xstats
These are some crappy bonus polls.

Useless for adjustments too.

Seems like there were a lot of topics filled yesterday! Was there anything to discuss?
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Obviously this is the results of some aftershock of the Undertale and OoT rallies. And some Cloud fans are to busy playing SSB4 to care to visit the site today. FFVII > OoT!
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hey Leon, when you're around - what do we get for CT/RBY if you set TP = WW?
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I still don't understand the CT > FF7 love. And I haven't seen anyone lay out an actual argument for it besides "CT IS T3h BESTEST!!!!!!!11111"

Did better on Melee among registered voters, currently doing better on FFVI than what FFVII got. It'll be an interesting match.
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creativename posted...
These are some crappy bonus polls.


I'll admit, a bunch of 60-40 beatings aren't exactly lighting me on fire either.

Mario 64 vs Pokemon and FFVII vs OoT were good matches in theory, though. A shame that what we thought were supposed to be close matches ended up so lopsided.
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huh well this OoT result sure proves me wrong. >_>
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creativename posted...
Seems like there were a lot of topics filled yesterday! Was there anything to discuss?

The demise of our hero Link
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/544/022/2f0.gif
(Also Allen made some pretty interesting posts like giving us the registered voter results for the Undertale and Melee matches)
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I also think literally all of these matches would be closer without spillover (well, maybe not CT/FFVI, don't know the spillover favorite there).
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LordoftheMorons posted...
I also think literally all of these matches would be closer without spillover (well, maybe not CT/FFVI, don't know the spillover favorite there).


Considering FFVI vs Chrono Trigger has noticeably less votes than everything else, I don't think the tumblr voters particularly care about either of them.
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Super Mario RPG didn't tank the night vote.
That's how badly the spillover affected things.
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Melee is pretty bad at night though
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Where are these posts about registered users?
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I'd really love to see a Chrono Trigger vs FFVII, but this is good enough.

After many years of people bashing Chrono saying he's not a Noble 9, he deserves some respect (And his game is getting that respect for him)
Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/73000224
and specific posts:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/73000224/839342578
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/73000224/839344346
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/73000224
and specific posts:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/73000224/839342578
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/73000224/839344346

Thanks!

Looks like as expected, Undertale got stronger as the contest went in in base strength.

The one thing that jumps out at me is FF7 scoring 57% against Melee. Higher than I would've thought.
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Did Luster confirm whether he's the guy who tries the curl to get first vote? Lol
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yep
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creativename posted...
Looks like as expected, Undertale got stronger as the contest went in in base strength.

Yeah. The antivotes for OoT in the final are also pretty clear.
(though I guess some of it should be Undertale people making accounts; don't know whether that's significant or not though).
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Oh another interesting thing is that Melee jumps 4% on KH2 when restricted to registered users. I don't think there was any KH rally, so that's apparently a pretty stark difference between registered and unregistered users.
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MechanicalWall posted...
Considering FFVI vs Chrono Trigger has noticeably less votes than everything else, I don't think the tumblr voters particularly care about either of them.


CT versus FFVI involves two very similar games (Square SNES RPG's). The lack of votes for it comes from people not being able to make a decision, not from lack of interest. None of the other polls have this issue.
thok posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
Considering FFVI vs Chrono Trigger has noticeably less votes than everything else, I don't think the tumblr voters particularly care about either of them.


CT versus FFVI involves two very similar games (Square SNES RPG's). The lack of votes for it comes from people not being able to make a decision, not from lack of interest. None of the other polls have this issue.


True, but then you look at Pokemon vs Mario's votals, and you can see where the spillover is landing.
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Averia posted...
Safer_777 posted...

2)Pokemon R/B/Y is the 2nd strongest game on this site for sure. Okay maybe 3rd.


Yeah, at this point I would probably place both CT and RBY above FFVII.


I'd put Mario world and SM64 over FFVII man
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charmander6000 posted...
Melee is pretty bad at night though


Pretty much the only reason it lost to Brawl
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FFVII Remake >>>> Original. Deal With it.
This looks like the kind of spillover you'd expect. Pokemon, Smash, and Zelda all benefiting greatly. Ocarina looks good here, but I don't believe FF7 is that close to FF9.
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Pretty much the only reason it lost to Brawl

Actually it was the morning vote that killed Melee
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Also, I think makes me feel really good about SMW being the strongest Mario.
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Safer_777 posted...
I checked the results. This is what I have to say
1st match=Melee doing very good. I guess the Smash Direct yesterday helps it.
2nd match=CT is really strong. Amazing.
3rd match=R/B/Y that good? Man!
4th match=There is spillover from the final match but I FF 7 would still lose anyway.

1)Undertale had 0.91% prediction rate. Is this the lowest ever? Can't remember L-Block.
2)Pokemon R/B/Y is the 2nd strongest game on this site for sure. Okay maybe 3rd.
3)OOT still amazing strong. Damn!

Well strange matches to tell the truth. Only one we expected was FF 7/OOT but the others not.


L-Block's final prediction percentage was 0.99%, but that's just for finishing in the top 2. However, Draven's percentage was 0.93% in the semifinals; he's still the champion with 0.73% in the finals.
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I think ZFS is telling the truth. No way FF 7 is that close to FF 9. The only thing I can say is the spillover is hurting FF 7 the most and the mentality that FF always wins since there are 2 FF games in that poll. In normal contest match I would expect 44 at least.
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This result makes CT seem stronger than OoT. FF7 is projected to get 43% against CT and it's almost getting that much against OoT when it has everything going against it.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
I'd need to see 57/43 for CT/FFVII before I believed it.
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Why is there so much skepticism over IX's strenght? Give the game some credit.
I mean, based on Melee/SMRPG, OoT would have gotten like 56% on Melee. And CT was going to get ~62% on it so...
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Melee might be scoring some SFF (admittedly doubtful), or maybe this is a weaker Mario RPG now that it isn't bandwagon-fuelled.
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I'm okay with basically tossing the entire Melee/SMRPG result out the window. Does not line up or make sense with anything we know.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Yeah, this result may not be too far off after all. The Melee "registered users" votes would project a 57-58% win for CT. That would project to FFVII beating FFVI with 55% exactly based on CT/FFVI.

transience posted...
hey Leon, when you're around - what do we get for CT/RBY if you set TP = WW?


Let's see...

Mario 64 beats FFVI with 53.37%
CT beats Mario 64 with 58.71%
CT beats R/B/Y with 51.19%

Ocarina of Time - 52.22%
Chrono Trigger - 50.00%
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow - 48.81%
Final Fantasy VII - 42.78%
Mario 64 - 41.39%
Final Fantasy VI - 38.51%
Super Smash Bros. Melee - 36.72%
Twilight Princess - 35.70%
Wind Waker - 35.70%
Super Mario RPG - 27.25%

Of course, Mario RPG might be getting SFF'd again. Mario RPG projects Melee would get 43.95% on Ocarina of Time.
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Also, FFIX almost certainly overperformed on OoT, but that shouldn't be too surprising. Suikoden II did, too. SOTN might have, too, but it was probably balanced out by the spillover. Whatever anti-voting OoT got is thrown out the window once FFVII enters the picture.
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Well, even if you go by 2004/2009 values, OoT gets around 60% on Melee. CT/OoT would have been close.
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Using the CT/Melee and Melee/FFVII registered voter numbers, KHI/KHII from Game of the Decade, and various matches from this contest, you get the following:

50.00 CT
45.57 OoT
42.78 FFVII
36.72 SSBM
34.48 FFX
32.83 KHII
31.94 FFIX
31.24 KHI

...Yeah, FFIX/OoT made the latter look pretty damn bad.
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I'd probably adjust Mario RPG off of a static RE4. puts it right around FFX level which should be right around Wind Waker or a little lower.
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Yeah, RE4 was my first thought for a base for the bottom quarter of the bracket. It seemed pretty stable from GOTD.

Also, adjusting FFIX/KH1 based on Melee/KH2 hadn't occurred to me before. Nice idea.
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