Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1260 - The Coronation, Plus Grudge Matches!

Chrono Trigger vs FF7 is all we really need
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I was not at all trying to imply FF10 was even close to equal with!

Edit -- I am mixing my contests up I take it all back

Edit2 -- except that LTTP beats CT.
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Dunno if this has been said yet but we need OoT vs. FF7 with this as the match pic:
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CT vs. OOT, bring it.
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It's pretty obvious though that you don't have to think FFX > MM to get CT > LttP. CT, indeed, would have to beat down LttP by pretty stupidly impossible numbers to get that to happen.
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We're going to break 150000 votes today and that's without OoT making this a close match to drive up the vote totals even higher.
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Way to go holding the votals back, OoT.
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Sacrificing LttP to the CT slaughter train is a waste when LttP could beat FF7 instead!
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Not_Wylvane
CT/OOT and FFVII/LTTP are more interesting.
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But those aren't grudge matches at all! Unless it's being billed as stepping stones for OoT/FFVII but FFVII will probably f*** it up somehow anyway.
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maybe one of his ideas of a grudge match is Brawl vs. Melee
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Wow, haven't checked on the poll since the 15 minute update, OoT really s*** the bed here.

On an unrelated note, does anyone feel weird being able to type swears when writing posts now? Back in the day you couldn't even type the name 'Yoshi' if the next word started with a 't'
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LeonhartFour posted...
maybe one of his ideas of a grudge match is Brawl vs. Melee


That's boring. All of the Brawl fans have moved on to SSB4. I think SSB4/Melee is the more interesting match, despite the differences in strength.

Also, what's the point of these bonus matches if they're just going to get rallied again?
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CT/OOT is a grudge match. I've been waiting for this for 6 years, since OOT dethroned FFVII.
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I hope CT/OoT lives up to the hype like you guys have been putting into it. I'm looking forward to it.
I think Undertale has a really good shot at finishing out the match at this point with no OoT cut outside of the one vote wonder, but this is going to be one of the trickiest parts of the match to get through I think. Variance, man.
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I hope we get CT/OoT. We probably don't, honestly.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
nopenopenopenop posted...
I hope CT/OoT lives up to the hype like you guys have been putting into it. I'm looking forward to it.

I feel like the spillover will be anti-OoT and CT would coast.

like tomorrow's OoT is not the usual OoT. It would lose to a number of things tomorrow IMO.
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There isn't really a 'usual' OoT anymore. It might not lose to a bunch of things normally, but it's still much, much weaker than it used to be. I think there's a real chance it could have doubled FFVI in 2009. It didn't even double FFIX this contest.
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well i mean WW almost beat FF6
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...I don't know if I'm okay with this
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I hope we get CT/OoT, so next game contest I can pick OoT and beat half of the board in the Guru
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Hey KamikazePotato, are you related to KamikazeTomato?
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OoT is weaker, but I'd still take it over everything except maybe CT in normal circumstances.

Tomorrow? It'd be a free-for-all. FFVII would win. RBY would win. I almost wonder if stuff like LttP/SMW/SM64 could win.
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Arcvalons posted...
Hey KamikazePotato, are you related to KamikazeTomato?


All I know is that he's an imposter! Don't believe Ondore's lies!
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
How much respect do you want to give

And then going and disrespectin' FF9 like that
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FFVII beating OoT tomorrow? We probably get that match, you know. I'll have to see it to believe it.
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I agree with xp here. That's why I thought a CT/OOT match now is kinda silly. No way it doesn't win, among other things. OOT is vulnerable and weakened now. Everyone would just roll with it.
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ZFS posted...
How much respect do you want to give

And then going and disrespectin' FF9 like that


FFVI is a clear, obvious step ahead of FFIX and always has been. I'm not even ready to say FFIX > FFX (which is why CT looks so deadly for OoT). I don't see any way OoT keeps FFVI from breaking 40% on it now.
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So how much says the grudge matches are ruined because Undertale/LoL is one of them resulting in everything else being tainted by the rallies.
So do you people just have a different definition of grudge match than the one I've been using
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CT would win a match against OoT because it did better on FFX than OoT did on FFIX. It's unfair to say this is OoT 'weakened' when it's been acting off the entire contest. Let's not make excuses.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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Nah, I've never believed that at all. CT can be stronger, and OOT weaker, and it not mean CT wins. But right now? Money for CT. No doubt.
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KamikazePotato posted...
CT would win a match against OoT because it did better on FFX than OoT did on FFIX. It's unfair to say this is OoT 'weakened' when it's been acting off the entire contest. Let's not make excuses.

CT might well win in normal circumstances, yes! But you hold that match tomorrow and I'd pretty much guarantee a CT over-performance.

I think anyone is kidding themselves if they don't think the bandwagon/spillover these matches will be facing won't still have a strong desire to keep making the site mad and given another opportunity to beat OoT would take it to keep Zelda fans angry. FFVII is the only one that this could somehow backfire on if the "FF Always Wins" narrative creeps in and muddles things, but I'd still back FFVII tomorrow. Hold that match next week and I take OoT with zero doubt.
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As much as I think it will be vastly overrated in the stats, seeing Chrono Trigger so strong warms my heart. Almost as much as seeing FF6, Super Metroid, DKC2 and Mega Man X also vastly overperform this year.
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lol xstats
Also, Undertale's user rating has dropped from 4.35/5 to 4.28/5 since the start of this match, and still dropping. Since the last time I made a personal update, Undertale got more new user ratings than more new people saying they actually owned the game.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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i called 4.28. it has to stay there now.

is this what it feels like to participate in the oracle
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Attn: Karma Hunter

I have played as Cloud
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KamikazePotato posted...
CT would win a match against OoT because it did better on FFX than OoT did on FFIX. It's unfair to say this is OoT 'weakened' when it's been acting off the entire contest. Let's not make excuses.


This. CT got freaking 63% on Melee among registered users. And it was obviously 60/40 before the rally started.
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I personally think we need to see a bonus match for EVERY strong game that lost due to a rally.

That would make
CT
FF7
SMW
RBY
Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Melee
Fallout 3
...ideally, SMB3


You could make three good bonus matches this way, four if you count SMB3 and Fallout 3.

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
s much as I think it will be vastly overrated in the stats, seeing Chrono Trigger so strong warms my heart.


Yeah. It makes me so mad CT had to be rallied against before it could prove, beyond a shadow of doubt, it's strength.
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Haste_2 posted...
CT
FF7
SMW
RBY
Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Melee
Fallout 3
...ideally, SMB3


Glad to see you left out Mass Effect out of knowledge that it was going to stomp on everything else.
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How about turn the bonus matches into a mini-tournament?

Mario 64 vs. SMW
SMB3 vs. RBY
Ocarina of Time vs. Melee
CT vs. FF7

It's amusing how accustomed we to Nintendo/Square dominance. We rarely see such complaining about that anymore.
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Haste_2 posted...
How about turn the bonus matches into a mini-tournament?

Mario 64 vs. SMW
SMB3 vs. RBY
Ocarina of Time vs. Melee
CT vs. FF7

It's amusing how accustomed we to Nintendo/Square dominance. We rarely see such complaining about that anymore.


Did you post this lineup already, or did someone else? I think it's a great idea. It gives the contest board and GameFAQs a chance to see who would "really" win if the contest didn't have as much rallying. Which is perfect for a bonus poll because the outside voters are the ones who care about winning the contest, whereas we care more about knowing which game is "really" more powerful among non-rallied voters.
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Tomorrow is the best time for FFVII/OoT because Cloud just got released for Smash 4.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Tomorrow is the best time for FFVII/OoT because Cloud just got released for Smash 4.

but is there enough time for smash 4 match pics

this is important
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Haste_2 posted...
How about turn the bonus matches into a mini-tournament?

Mario 64 vs. SMW
SMB3 vs. RBY
Ocarina of Time vs. Melee
CT vs. FF7

It's amusing how accustomed we to Nintendo/Square dominance. We rarely see such complaining about that anymore.


Well weren't there contests where games of those two were banned?
I heard they were boring contests.
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