Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1260 - The Coronation, Plus Grudge Matches!

I mean who has the bigger rally potential between Melee and Pokemon
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In the URLs for today's matches, I have tried replaced "r7" with either "r8" or "bonus", but nothing is showing up. Maybe Allen is reusing round 1 pictures for these bonus matches.
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That'd be hard to gauge going by CT considering Pokemon's base strength should be a *lot* better than Melee's.
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Also, I kinda suspect those registered user votes overrate CT by a good bit. It's easily #1 for registered users between these, that recent list, and the noms, but I don't expect it to be as dominant once unregistered voters are factored in, even without rallies.

Though it's been in god mode this contest anyway so it probably would still beat FF7 and OoT, it'd just be pretty close.
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the "best" part is that the topic got spread to other sites before the topic got deleted

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XFD XFD
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So what records did Undertale break in the contest? The only 2 for sure are biggest comeback ever and having a higher percentage victory in the final match than any of the previous matches!
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Karma Hunter posted...
That'd be hard to gauge going by CT considering Pokemon's base strength should be a *lot* better than Melee's.


Yeah, I know, but I can't really think of an interesting opponent for CT if it's not FFVII or OoT.
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LeonhartFour posted...
xp1337 posted...
Are these bonus matches tomorrow?


Yeah, Allen said they will be tomorrow, so enjoy the spillover!

hahahaha

yeah sure i'll enjoy it
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
In the URLs for today's matches, I have tried replaced "r7" with either "r8" or "bonus", but nothing is showing up. Maybe Allen is reusing round 1 pictures for these bonus matches.


I tried "grudge," but same thing.
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Safer_777 posted...
So what records did Undertale break in the contest? The only 2 for sure are biggest comeback ever and having a higher percentage victory in the final match than any of the previous matches!


Last one is false.
Pokemon vs MGS was a solid 75-25 stomp.
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Safer_777 posted...
having a higher percentage victory in the final match than any of the previous matches!


Hate to break it to you, but Undertale might not even be top 3 by the time this match is over in terms of highest percentage in the finals.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
That'd be hard to gauge going by CT considering Pokemon's base strength should be a *lot* better than Melee's.


Yeah, I know, but I can't really think of an interesting opponent for CT if it's not FFVII or OoT.


LttP is fine! Plenty of people think it can win. Even red sox thinks it's got a chance!

CT/RBY is okay in a vacuum but RBY rallying is just gonna kill whatever 1% chance FFVII would have to compete with OoT with spillover.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
That'd be hard to gauge going by CT considering Pokemon's base strength should be a *lot* better than Melee's.


Yeah, I know, but I can't really think of an interesting opponent for CT if it's not FFVII or OoT.


Pokemon RBY or a Mario game would be Chrono's biggest grudges.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Safer_777 posted...
having a higher percentage victory in the final match than any of the previous matches!


Hate to break it to you, but Undertale might not even be top 3 by the time this match is over in terms of highest percentage in the finals.

I think what this is trying to say is that it's somehow a record that you have your biggest win in the finals.
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I'd rather see FF7 face Super Mario 64 or RBY or even LttP myself. Those could probably give FF7 a good match.

I think we'd all want to see CT/OoT.
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What I mean is that in the earlier rounds it won with a less percentage that it wins now. I mean the highest was with Fallout 3 and it was around 55% and now it seems it will finish with around 57. I don't think any other winner has done that.
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Oh, I guess.

That's an odd record to want to keep track of.
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Vayu_The_End posted...
Safer_777 posted...
So what records did Undertale break in the contest? The only 2 for sure are biggest comeback ever and having a higher percentage victory in the final match than any of the previous matches!


Last one is false.
Pokemon vs MGS was a solid 75-25 stomp.


Are we just making up finals now
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Karma Hunter posted...
Vayu_The_End posted...
Safer_777 posted...
So what records did Undertale break in the contest? The only 2 for sure are biggest comeback ever and having a higher percentage victory in the final match than any of the previous matches!


Last one is false.
Pokemon vs MGS was a solid 75-25 stomp.


Are we just making up finals now


Oops
Well sorry :|
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Even with non-finals that still doesn't make any sense you're just imagining matches that didn't happen
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5263-character-battle-ix-final-nine-solid-snake-vs-squirtle-vs

I mean he did beat two Pokemon combined
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LeonhartFour posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5263-character-battle-ix-final-nine-solid-snake-vs-squirtle-vs

I mean he did beat two Pokemon combined


That's only because he had a type advantage!
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Karma Hunter posted...
Even with non-finals that still doesn't make any sense you're just imagining matches that didn't happen


I heard somewhere that that happened.
*shrug*
I'm mistaken then.
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Not_Wylvane posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5263-character-battle-ix-final-nine-solid-snake-vs-squirtle-vs

I mean he did beat two Pokemon combined


That's only because he had a type advantage!


Was anyone surprised by that outcome?
Was pokemon a strong contender?
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that was the semifinals of the entire contest and there are literally two Pokemon in the same match

literally every semifinal match had at least one Pokemon character in it

that should give you an idea
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Vayu_The_End posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5263-character-battle-ix-final-nine-solid-snake-vs-squirtle-vs

I mean he did beat two Pokemon combined


That's only because he had a type advantage!


Was anyone surprised by that outcome?
Was pokemon a strong contender?


It wasn't too surprising, but it was still impressive considering how freaking dominant Pokemon was that contest. Pikachu beat Crono and later Sora despite LFF, Squirtle beat Cloud, Mewtwo beat Sonic and Sephiroth and put up a decent fight against Draven, Red took advantage of FF LFF to make it far, and Charizard, uh, well, he showed up!
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Mega Man just barely saved us from having over half the final 9 being Pokemon characters
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I will never understand why Charizard sucked so much in 2013 but I'm okay with it
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LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, I know, but I can't really think of an interesting opponent for CT if it's not FFVII or OoT.


In a contest where our top is not far off from our elite we're gonna say Mario World or 64 or LTTP are not interesting opponents for CT. You have all sipped the Red Sox Kool Aid I would suggest
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LeonhartFour posted...
Mega Man just barely saved us from having over half the final 9 being Pokemon characters


Nailing Mega Man > Charizard is still probably my favorite upset pick and, combined with Pikachu > Sora, helped get me in the top 5 of the Guru that year. People overestimated the f*** out of a character that was around the level of Kratos because of one good run.
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He bandwagoned in 2010 somehow, I'd guess. He had very low prediction percentages to win his matches. HS/SS came out on the day of Charizard/Bowser, too, if I remember right.

He got 55% on Kratos for crying out loud

Charizard couldn't have been that strong
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ZFS posted...
In a contest where our top is not far off from our elite we're gonna say Mario World or 64 or LTTP are not interesting opponents for CT. You have all sipped the Red Sox Kool Aid I would suggest


I mean if you want to throw them up against Chrono Trigger, I won't stop you

but quick FFX vs. FFIV who wins

FFX vs. FFVIII who wins

FFX vs. FFT who wins
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I have bad news for you about FFX Leon
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It's only as strong as Melee, I know

It's awful news but I've accepted it
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Charizard did well in 2013 if you take his Charizard/Kratos number instead of Mario/Charizard.
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I can conceive of weird bizarre realities where FFX is below FFIV and FFT.

...but not FFVIII under any circumstances, sorry Mario World you suck.
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i am actually legitimately impressed you guys can keep debating the stats

i mean uh...

ffx wins all those matches unless ffviii unleashes its rally
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xp1337 posted...
i am actually legitimately impressed you guys can keep debating the stats

i mean uh...

ffx wins all those matches unless ffviii unleashes its rally


My hand is on the button at all times.
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As for the grudge matches I predict

Ocarina of Time/Final Fantasy VII
Super Mario Bros. 3/Pokemon RBYG
Super Mario World/Super Mario 64
Chrono Trigger/Link to the Past
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BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > SM64
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ZFS posted...
LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, I know, but I can't really think of an interesting opponent for CT if it's not FFVII or OoT.


In a contest where our top is not far off from our elite we're gonna say Mario World or 64 or LTTP are not interesting opponents for CT. You have all sipped the Red Sox Kool Aid I would suggest


I had nothing to do with this! I've been the voice of reason on CT ever since that FFX match!
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Eh, let's not do a Mario 3 vs. R/B/Y rematch, please.
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So are well all just that confident in FF10 over MM
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I'm confident Majora wouldn't win with 65% at least!
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ZFS posted...
So are well all just that confident in FF10 over MM


FFX can be well, well, well below Majora's Mask and CT can still scorch LttP.
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xp1337 posted...
i am actually legitimately impressed you guys can keep debating the stats

i mean uh...

ffx wins all those matches unless ffviii unleashes its rally


Calling Charizard being overrated was the one good call I've made in 13 years of these damn contests, I'm gonna be smug about it until the site or I dies because that's all I've got!

2013 was also the only time I actually spent a lot of time looking up past matches and stuff for my bracket, and it worked out great for me. On the flip-side, I barely paid any attention to my bracket for this contest and did my early 00's strategy of "make a couple of ridiculous longshot picks based on favoritism" and somehow I did terrible!
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Karma Hunter posted...
and CT can still scorch LttP.


Oh man Allen please do it run this match
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charmander6000 posted...
As for the grudge matches I predict

Ocarina of Time/Final Fantasy VII
Super Mario Bros. 3/Pokemon RBYG
Super Mario World/Super Mario 64
Chrono Trigger/Link to the Past


Pretty good list, although I have a hard time believing that we will get a re-run of Mario 3/RBY.
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I literally don't think CT will win a CT/LttP showdown, though it should be close.

But FFX/MM isn't the comparison to make there! FFX = MM right now means CT just crushes LttP.
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