Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1260 - The Coronation, Plus Grudge Matches!

And I say this as I get ready to spend $6 on Cloud in Smash Bros!
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Vayu_The_End posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Man the Undertale fanbase got hyped for an impossibly hard final showdown that didn't really pan out. <.<


I think outside forces don't understand just how much weight they have in these polls and how little a site gamefaqs is these days. It's nowhere near being the giant it used to be.


Yeah this. We are viewed as the establishment but we're just an aging website that like contests.
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ZFS posted...
And I say this as I get ready to spend $6 on Cloud in Smash Bros!


Get back to me after playing as him for the first hour
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Julian_Caesar posted...
Lopen posted...
You know I probably shouldn't have wasted time on that. I think it was more for my peace of mind than anything.

Didn't help, though! Now more convinced than ever something is afoot. And you should be too.


Allen mentioned that they couldn't track votes from certain sources like mobile apps. Plus, we know by now that the popuku being rallied for Undertale had a pretty good chunk of non-typical contest voters. Meaning they are more likely to have been using stuff like mobile apps, or Google searching for the contest website.

To me that seems like a non-nefarious explanation, dunno how likely :P


Well I mean, sure, I'm not saying no explanation exists

Just seems weird that Chrono Trigger/Smash would have trace amounts of this and every Undertale match would have 30-40k consistently. Coincidences, man!
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The 5:40 PM update was pretty interesting. Undertale spiked up to a 373 vote update, while OoT spiked up to a 311 vote update. Not sure what could have caused that.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Anyone think Cloud can make it interesting against Link as the Smash 4/Remake hype begins to swell?

I mean, pre-rallies.
Nah. This site's opinions on Cloud and FFVII are too set. Nintendo voters in general never hated Solid Snake, they just weren't very familiar with him so the greater exposure from Brawl actually mattered. But Cloud is still The Enemy and most other voters won't care.

I feel that until Square-Enix actually delivers the FFVII remake and unless it is actually well-received, it won't do much. The vast majority of people have already made up their minds about FFVII and there's a lot of distrust in Square-Enix actually delivering something great at this point.
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12/15/2015 2:47:51 PM#58
-LusterSoldier- posted...
The 5:40 PM update was pretty interesting. Undertale spiked up to a 373 vote update, while OoT spiked up to a 311 vote update. Not sure what could have caused that.


Smash Direct just ended. It may have cause a spike in traffic.
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That probably makes sense, since Undertale gained 0.07% while the Smash Direct was taking place.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Anyone think Cloud can make it interesting against Link as the Smash 4/Remake hype begins to swell?

I mean, pre-rallies.
Nah. This site's opinions on Cloud and FFVII are too set. Nintendo voters in general never hated Solid Snake, they just weren't very familiar with him so the greater exposure from Brawl actually mattered. But Cloud is still The Enemy and most other voters won't care.

I feel that until Square-Enix actually delivers the FFVII remake and unless it is actually well-received, it won't do much. The vast majority of people have already made up their minds about FFVII and there's a lot of distrust in Square-Enix actually delivering something great at this point.


That's... certainly a unique take on things, I'll say.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
The 5:40 PM update was pretty interesting. Undertale spiked up to a 373 vote update, while OoT spiked up to a 311 vote update. Not sure what could have caused that.


Smash Direct just ended. It may have cause a spike in traffic.


And yet OOT still lost that update even though the people that watched the direct are Nintendo fans
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People don't want Ocarina to win. Even among registered users Undertale's doing significantly better than it has against every other opponent it's faced up to now.
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Karma Hunter posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Anyone think Cloud can make it interesting against Link as the Smash 4/Remake hype begins to swell?

I mean, pre-rallies.
Nah. This site's opinions on Cloud and FFVII are too set. Nintendo voters in general never hated Solid Snake, they just weren't very familiar with him so the greater exposure from Brawl actually mattered. But Cloud is still The Enemy and most other voters won't care.

I feel that until Square-Enix actually delivers the FFVII remake and unless it is actually well-received, it won't do much. The vast majority of people have already made up their minds about FFVII and there's a lot of distrust in Square-Enix actually delivering something great at this point.


That's... certainly a unique take on things, I'll say.


So I'm assuming you disagree with some of it?
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Karma Hunter posted...
People don't want Ocarina to win.


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Karma Hunter posted...
People don't want Ocarina to win. Even among registered users Undertale's doing significantly better than it has against every other opponent it's faced up to now.


I'm starting to think might just be because we've had so many new users coming in because of the rally. Everywhere on this boad, I'm seeing posts by users less then a week old. That might have skewed the percentages a bit.

Not a lot, obviously, especially with Undertale's bandwagon, but it's something to consider.
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6 hours left, and I don't see OOT making a comback win.
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Has it still only got that 1 vote cut?
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WhiteLens posted...
Has it still only got that 1 vote cut?


Yes, that continues being the only one so far.
AxemRedRanger posted...
So I'm assuming you disagree with some of it?


I don't think voters are thinking that deeply into things. Case in point this looks like it would have been a pretty good contest for CT and FFVII if they hadn't been caught in a rally (or in FFVII's case, rally crossfire).

Also Snake's Smash boost took him ultimately from, what, like sub-40% on Link to 46.5%? Link's clearly getting a lot of default votes that simply a token appearance in a Smash game can to a large extent nullify.
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Undertale should fall off in the last hours.
So OoT should be able to make a slightly less pathetic cut , and look slightly less horrible !
Averia posted...
So OoT should be able to make a slightly less pathetic cut , and look slightly less horrible !


No.

We must honor this single vote cut.

It's something special, I feel.
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Averia posted...
Undertale should fall off in the last hours.
So OoT should be able to make a slightly less pathetic cut , and look slightly less horrible !

Honestly, that would be the worst possible outcome here. A ridiculous blow out where OoT only cuts 1 vote is interesting. OoT coming back and making ridiculously huge cuts to make it close or even win is interesting. Anything else is just not.
UltimaterializerX posted...
GEEETTTTTTTT
DUNKED ON!!!!!!!!!

It really did. I though that there was a chance that there would have been a match after work.
No iota.
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OoT's moral victory should be to do better against Undertale than Mass Effect 3.
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Geiki Ganger posted...
OoT's moral victory should be to do better against Undertale than Mass Effect 3.


But sadly it won't even get that much.
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Geiki Ganger posted...
OoT's moral victory should be to do better against Undertale than Mass Effect 3.


It would have to cut almost every last vote off Undertale's lead to do that.
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OoT's goal should be to pass FFVII in the raw X-stats.

If it can't do that, it has truly fallen.
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Bacon responded to my feedback ticket - only new piece of info we got is that each game will only be in the poll once. That more or less confirms there being multiple matches tomorrow, which is cool.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Is this the first Ulti-style blowout that is actually a blowout?
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Well they are unofficial matches right? So anything goes. Howeve there will be spillover so that means we will have strange results.
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Geiki Ganger posted...
OoT's moral victory should be to do better against Undertale than Mass Effect 3.


It would be moral victory to do better than Fallout at this point.
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KamikazePotato posted...
Bacon responded to my feedback ticket - only new piece of info we got is that each game will only be in the poll once. That more or less confirms there being multiple matches tomorrow, which is cool.


Hmm, interesting. Anyways, I'm trying to get an Oracle Challenge prediction topic set up with a fairly good listing of the possible matches that could happen. I've got like 10 possible matches on my list right now. This is the list I am planning to use when I set up the Oracle Challenge prediction topic:

Chrono Trigger vs. Final Fantasy VII
Chrono Trigger vs. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Final Fantasy VII vs. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Final Fantasy VII vs. Super Mario World
Final Fantasy VII vs. Super Mario 64
Final Fantasy VII vs. Pokemon Red/Blue
Super Mario World vs. Pokemon Red/Blue
Super Mario 64 vs. Pokemon Red/Blue
Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Super Mario World
Super Mario World vs. Super Mario 64
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KamikazePotato posted...
Bacon responded to my feedback ticket - only new piece of info we got is that each game will only be in the poll once. That more or less confirms there being multiple matches tomorrow, which is cool.


Hmm, interesting. Anyways, I'm trying to get an Oracle Challenge prediction topic set up with a fairly good listing of the possible matches that could happen. I've got like 10 possible matches on my list right now. This is the list I am planning to use when I set up the Oracle Challenge prediction topic:

Chrono Trigger vs. Final Fantasy VII
Chrono Trigger vs. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Final Fantasy VII vs. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Final Fantasy VII vs. Super Mario World
Final Fantasy VII vs. Super Mario 64
Final Fantasy VII vs. Pokemon Red/Blue
Super Mario World vs. Pokemon Red/Blue
Super Mario 64 vs. Pokemon Red/Blue
Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Super Mario World
Super Mario World vs. Super Mario 64


This has to happen.
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KamikazePotato posted...
Bacon responded to my feedback ticket - only new piece of info we got is that each game will only be in the poll once. That more or less confirms there being multiple matches tomorrow, which is cool.


Well, he did say "grudge matches" in his topic, so that essentially confirmed multiple matches.

I'm curious to see what he thinks are the matches we want to see. He says he's been on B8 a lot during the contest, so he should have some idea.
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Oracle Challenge prediction topic has been posted:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/73002467
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so

oot how did you do in my absence

cut a whole vote huh

that's just... just great
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Wouldn't be surprised if OoT vs FFVII was one of them.

CT vs. SM64/W would be good though. Or RBY vs FFVII
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Yeah, I'd be kind of surprised if we didn't get FFVII vs. OoT since that was the pre-contest buildup. I don't know who else could really give Chrono Trigger a fight based on those Melee numbers though.
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The only things I can think of for Grudge Matches are OoT/FF7, CT/LttP... MGS/FFT? There's not that many classic Games Contest matches lol

...waiting for the swerve at the last minute when the grudge matches end up being Link/Cloud and Mario/Crono :D
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LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, I'd be kind of surprised if we didn't get FFVII vs. OoT since that was the pre-contest buildup. I don't know who else could really give Chrono Trigger a fight based on those Melee numbers though.


Melee could!
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I'd rather have Mario World vs. Mario 64 than R/B/Y or CT against either of them.

Throw CT vs. R/B/Y just so we can see who really has the bigger rally potential.
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Karma Hunter posted...
The only things I can think of for Grudge Matches are OoT/FF7, CT/LttP... MGS/FFT? There's not that many classic Games Contest matches lol

...waiting for the swerve at the last minute when the grudge matches end up being Link/Cloud and Mario/Crono :D


Hmm, maybe I should consider throwing in CT/LttP and CT/SMW as possible matches to my Oracle Challenge prediction topic, considering I only provided 2 CT match options.
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Are these bonus matches tomorrow?
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xp1337 posted...
Are these bonus matches tomorrow?


Yeah, Allen said they will be tomorrow, so enjoy the spillover!
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LeonhartFour posted...
I'd rather have Mario World vs. Mario 64 than R/B/Y or CT against either of them.

Throw CT vs. R/B/Y just so we can see who really has the bigger rally potential.


is that a joke

where do you even rally CT beside freaking GameFAQs
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