Scarlettail posted...
This negative spin in Undertale's victory is weird. It accomplishes the objective of a new game winning the contest. This is its first contest, unlike OoT or Link.

How would it have been better if it lost? Then we're just back at OoT.


Really, it sheds some light onto the video game concept of the protagonist team winning on the first try.
The reaction to all of this can be a legitimate type of what would happen if such protagonist teams went on to do what they do in their own games in real life.
The complaining on the board today is unreal. I figured the site had already gotten most of it out of their system and had seen the way this was all trending, but I guess that's a different level from pissing off Zelda fans who are used to being top dog.
---
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
I think this augurs pretty well for the health of the site, actually. There's not a ton of people rallying on reddit or tumblr for Undertale - it means that people have gotten interested in the contest in its own right and are coming organically. Most of those people are gonna split once Undertale's won, but a few of them are going to stick around.

On a related note, how much of a beatdown would this be if r/undertale had alowed rallies?
(edited 12/15/2015 9:37:57 AM)report
Tohoya posted...
I think this augurs pretty well for the health of the site, actually. There's not a ton of people rallying on reddit or tumblr for Undertale - it means that people have gotten interested in the contest in its own right and are coming organically. Most of those people are gonna split once Undertale's won, but a few of them are going to stick around.

On a related note, how much of a beatdown would this be if r/undertale had alowed rallies?


Uhhh... it has a sticky at the top. Basically mission accomplished for the ralliers.
---
http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza
"This is all we have... when we die.."
Anyway, I just put up some rallies on facebook fan groups and they are getting decent responses. And I messaged a couple of the pages that got in touch with me last night and they are hopefully gonna post later.
---
http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza
"This is all we have... when we die.."
Just in case, here's the most recent SBAllen post:

SBAllen posted...
I find it interesting that apparently only Undertale fans (and to a lesser extent, SSBM fans) are able to figure out this whole vote stuffing thing. It's also weird that Undertale had a ton of rallies and SSBM had rallies going to a lesser extent. I guess the rallies affected how many people could vote stuff. Since SSBM had smaller rallies, that somehow meant that fewer people could stuff whereas Undertale had significantly more rallies and therefore more people were able to stuff. I mean, that clearly makes more sense than Undertale's larger rallies resulting in significantly more votes and SSBM's smaller rallies resulting in more votes, but not as many as UT. And of course the lack of rallies for other games meant no vote stuffing for them, because only rallied games can be stuffed. Oh, except for the games that went up against Undertale, those games were also stuffed for. You can tell because they got more votes and those votes could only be because of stuffing and not just extra traffic from the rallies. This all makes complete, total sense right?
Also, that was sarcasm from him.
Undertale fans know what's going on at this point. Rally threads are barely necessary anymore.
---
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
who is even complaining?

maybe I'm just tuning it out now but I'm not seeing a lot, at least not from regulars
---
http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png
Damn, what a logic bomb from our wise admin.
---
Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses
Link to the topic he said that in?
---
[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
[NO DpObliVion NO PEACE]
So if people love to piss other people off, and Undertale has now 16k more votes than OOT, isn't it time to vote OOT because it would piss off more people??
Just think about that!
---
3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066
Where he posted that?
---
Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing?
124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! But the best of all was DpObliVion! Congrats!
The Mana Sword posted...
who is even complaining?

maybe I'm just tuning it out now but I'm not seeing a lot, at least not from regulars


Well yeah it's not from regulars!
---
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
AxemRedRanger posted...
Link to the topic he said that in?


Here you go!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72998615?page=3#qp
GoldenSeagulls posted...
Also, that was sarcasm from him.


Thanks, it was so subtle I almost missed it.

Also, that was sarcasm from me.
---
Any sound can shake the air. My voice shakes the heart!
-Sho Minamimoto
(edited 12/15/2015 9:49:35 AM)report
GoldenSeagulls posted...
Just in case, here's the most recent SBAllen post:

SBAllen posted...
I find it interesting that apparently only Undertale fans (and to a lesser extent, SSBM fans) are able to figure out this whole vote stuffing thing. It's also weird that Undertale had a ton of rallies and SSBM had rallies going to a lesser extent. I guess the rallies affected how many people could vote stuff. Since SSBM had smaller rallies, that somehow meant that fewer people could stuff whereas Undertale had significantly more rallies and therefore more people were able to stuff. I mean, that clearly makes more sense than Undertale's larger rallies resulting in significantly more votes and SSBM's smaller rallies resulting in more votes, but not as many as UT. And of course the lack of rallies for other games meant no vote stuffing for them, because only rallied games can be stuffed. Oh, except for the games that went up against Undertale, those games were also stuffed for. You can tell because they got more votes and those votes could only be because of stuffing and not just extra traffic from the rallies. This all makes complete, total sense right?


I dunno
From where I see things, vote stuffing in contest match in theory should work like those programs that fake seeding in Torrent clients
Like, you set a number of say..2mb upload, and the program just fluctuate around this number to not make it obvious you have a static 2mb upload
---
3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066
GoldenSeagulls posted...
Also, that was sarcasm from him.


No, really!?

this was sarcasm
---
Arcvalons really is a genius.-kamikazetomato.
Voice of Myself.
Evillordexdeath posted...
GoldenSeagulls posted...
Also, that was sarcasm from him.


Thanks, it was so subtle I almost missed it.

Also, that was sarcasm from me.


Sarcasm is incredibly hard to detect in the Internet at times it's sometimes a good idea to add that tiny disclaimer. It's kind of stupid for those who can see it, heh, that is true.
I wouldn't say a whole bunch of people are visibly pissed, but the atmosphere of the entire site right now is probably much worse than Link/Draven. You don't need 3 pages of complaint threads to feel the dread of the user base.
Well wow. The Zelda Universe page rallied (540k likes) and it apparently did absolutely nothing. They posted it at 4am though so if it's mostly US fans that could be why it didn't take off. Hopefully they will repost it.
---
9/2/13-The Hero of GameFAQs fought bravely but fell to an unrelenting horde supported by a corrupt tyranny.
R.I.P. Hero of Time, 7 time CB Champion, Link
UberPyro64 posted...
GameFAQs is the 3rd top trend worldwide on Twitter.

What did you guys do?


OMG
---
Arcvalons really is a genius.-kamikazetomato.
Voice of Myself.
Allen's saltier than anyone on Board 8 to be honest.

Well, now that MWC is gone, anyway. >_>
---
Now crack that combination:
27 99 23.
(edited 12/15/2015 9:53:17 AM)report
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72998885
---
Another chapter written on my book -- The Guru Scrolls 2015: DpObliVion
tgs2 posted...
but the atmosphere of the entire site right now is probably much worse than Link/Draven.


Man, this isn't even close to Draven.

Draven felt like it would result in the death of the contests. This doesn't have that same aura of dread.
---
http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif
What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form
well at least this is slightly more amusing than a 51/49 match that doesn't move at all
---
SephirothG
"The King, The All-Star Of This Contest"~yoblazer
TheCodeisBosco posted...
Allen's saltier than anyone on Board 8 to be honest.


The site he administrates is one of the top trends on Twitter.

He's Scrooge McDucking into all of the ad revenue.
---
Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses
(edited 12/15/2015 10:00:26 AM)report
TheCodeisBosco posted...
Allen's saltier than anyone on Board 8 to be honest.

Well, now that MWC is gone, anyway. >_>


MWC is gone??
---
SephirothG
"The King, The All-Star Of This Contest"~yoblazer
JJH777 posted...
Well wow. The Zelda Universe page rallied (540k likes) and it apparently did absolutely nothing. They posted it at 4am though so if it's mostly US fans that could be why it didn't take off. Hopefully they will repost it.


Or people don't want to try and beat down a small indie game's Cinderella story and realize rallying for Ocarina of Time against it is pathetic.
---
Welcome to the League of Antivotes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/3wyfxl/dont_let_ocarina_of_time_down_rally_cry_let_us/

Idk who made that but hopefully it helps. I really wish r/Nintendo allowed rallying.
---
9/2/13-The Hero of GameFAQs fought bravely but fell to an unrelenting horde supported by a corrupt tyranny.
R.I.P. Hero of Time, 7 time CB Champion, Link
MWC got suspended for not so subtle death threats toward Undertale voters.
---
http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif
What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form
Allen isn't really salty (at least I don't think so), he's just learned that trolling the board is better on his sanity than reasoning with it
---
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
How do you check what is the most trended thing in Twitter?
---
3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066
Man, every single one of those Reddit threads starts with, "Uh, I don't think either game is the best game ever, so I'm not gonna vote."

They're utterly useless.
---
Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses
LeonhartFour posted...
Man, this isn't even close to Draven.


I actually feel worse
Mostly because of the backstabbing of most users here that actually supports Undertale
What is this stupid obsession over a indie game, it looks like a f***ing brainwashing to me
Maybe I need to play it to see for myself
---
3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066
LeonhartFour posted...
MWC got suspended for not so subtle death threats toward Undertale voters.


God he's awesome
---
SephirothG
"The King, The All-Star Of This Contest"~yoblazer
MechanicalWall posted...
Man, every single one of those Reddit threads starts with, "Uh, I don't think either game is the best game ever, so I'm not gonna vote."

They're utterly useless.


This is why Allen just needs to change the name of the contest.
---
http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif
What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form
'Which Game Sucks Less?'

That one's on the house, Allen.
---
Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses
Maybe we should have yearly GotY Contests.
---
Arcvalons really is a genius.-kamikazetomato.
Voice of Myself.
time to bring back the quotes contest

then people really can have the meme battle they always wanted
---
http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png
LeonhartFour posted...
MWC got suspended for not so subtle death threats toward Undertale voters.


rofl!
---
Best. Game. Ever.: 20th Anniversary Edition. Current Score: 228/384
Congratulations DpObliVion!
the "best" part is that the topic got spread to other sites before the topic got deleted

http://i.imgur.com/nAJMuY4.jpg
---
http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif
What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form
JJH777 posted...
Well wow. The Zelda Universe page rallied (540k likes) and it apparently did absolutely nothing. They posted it at 4am though so if it's mostly US fans that could be why it didn't take off. Hopefully they will repost it.


Ask them to post again with a screenshot. I did.

I also gave some clear instructions to Zelda dungeon.
---
http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza
"This is all we have... when we die.."
Who is MWC by the way?
---
Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing?
124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! But the best of all was DpObliVion! Congrats!
Extha is gonna be just as infamous for that "get em" ROFL
---
http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza
"This is all we have... when we die.."
Quotes from the /r/gaming post:

I like LoZ OoT and I like Undertale but neither is "The best game ever" by a long shot.
So I'll abstain


Why do you care? It's a meaningless popularity contest on a mediocre gaming website.


Who cares? Everyone has different oppinions, unless someone claims Call of Duty is the best game of all time I'll leave my torch and pitchfork at home.


Or you can stop being a baby. It's not nonsense, but a popular opinion that clashes with yours.


You don't tell me what to do


Who gives a s***. It's a meaningless popularity vote, nothing more nothing less. The brackets are s***tily designed and some of those games have no business being compared with one another.


As you can see GameFAQs reputation and apathy towards the poll are vocalized in that reddit place. Maybe other places in the Internet echo that.
this whole "these games have no business being compared with one another" thing always baffles me
---
http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif
What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form
True that. I mean everyone has different opinions but still, to dismiss everything...
---
Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing?
124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! But the best of all was DpObliVion! Congrats!
LeonhartFour posted...
this whole "these games have no business being compared with one another" thing always baffles me


I liked "Majora's Mask GOTD? Well that seems dumb" from a few years ago, even on Zelda fansites like Zelda Informer

#Zeldadrones
---
Communists
Well time to give up I guess. I can't believe 2 huge facebook pages with 470k likes and 560k likes rallying did absolutely nothing for OoT. Before the match I thought just one of those would be enough to give OoT the win. I do not understand how the skyward sword post during draven vs Link took off. I guess Link is just a lot more rallyable.
---
9/2/13-The Hero of GameFAQs fought bravely but fell to an unrelenting horde supported by a corrupt tyranny.
R.I.P. Hero of Time, 7 time CB Champion, Link

Report Message

Terms of Use Violations:

Etiquette Issues:

Notes (optional; required for "Other"):
Add user to Ignore List after reporting

Topic Sticky

You are not allowed to request a sticky.