Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1258 - Papyrus in Smash Bros Edition!

would the SNES be stronger than LoZ

(we shouldn't ever have a Console Contest)
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Nanis23 posted...
So Where is Kaz that said it would be close


Sup. I did say it'd either be close or we'd get close to breaking 200k. Still got most of a day left before you can rub it in!

(And if I we fall well short of 200k, please do so. It'll show how much I know!)
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red sox 777 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
And also, I hate to say it because it sounds so counterintuitive, but...

Link is way stronger than Ocarina of Time. His furious charge against Draven contrasted with OoT just lying down as virtually zero Zelda fans even bother to care is very striking.


At 1:45:

Ocarina of Time - 10518
Draven - 9912
Link - 8692

OOT is getting way more votes than Link did. Final Form Undertale is just that much stronger than Draven.


I'd attribute OoT's vote total to it being a massively hyped finals match where it's receiving a fair amount of backfire votes from Undertale rallying. Other than that, it's not impressive at all on a relative scale compared to Link.

Link's stronger.
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OoT will make this look better. I don't know what the standards are for "close" but it'll be completely artificial because this will never be close.

I don't know where votals have us on pace now though.
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12/14/2015 10:48:58 PM#405
UltimaterializerX posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Wait why are we adjusting stats?


Because not everyone treats stats like a complete joke like you!

But I'll have a list of raw stats after this match, yeah.


I was just trolling with lol x-stats, I know they have a place.

I do think every match is its own entity though. This contest proved that.


Undertale matches are their own thing for sure but most matches that were not affected by SSBM or Undertale rallying were pieces of the same puzzle. The detailed analysis still needs to be done by my high level feeling is this contest largely fell in line with GotD stats.
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I don't think we need to worry too much about contest format, or even what type of contest it is.

We just need to have them more often. No one cares about Undertale doing this thing if the last Games Contest hadn't been in 2009. Now that we have a good format to re-use and Allen isn't ready to murder everyone by the end of this contest, I think we're set.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Which is to say, I think in a hypothetical Link/Undertale match Undertale would be doing worse than this, assuming you could run it in a theoretical vacuum where people aren't just being confused that Link is fighting a video game
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We're gonna fall behind Melee/Undertale pretty soon, so we won't get anywhere near 200,000 unless OoT somehow gets close and forces Undertale to rebury it (it won't)
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Actually, OoT's vote intake is pretty insane given the lack of any rallies (that I know of) explicitly for him.

Guess we have a real example of BACKFIRE
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Karma Hunter posted...
Which is to say, I think in a hypothetical Link/Undertale match Undertale would be doing worse than this, assuming you could run it in a theoretical vacuum where people aren't just being confused that Link is fighting a video game

bonus match link v undertale

i can just imagine link breaking the fourth wall and continuing the fight
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12/14/2015 10:50:29 PM#411
Yeah this format is godly. Multi-matches for most rounds is too good.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Wait why are we adjusting stats?


Because not everyone treats stats like a complete joke like you!

But I'll have a list of raw stats after this match, yeah.


I was just trolling with lol x-stats, I know they have a place.

I do think every match is its own entity though. This contest proved that.


Undertale matches are their own thing for sure but most matches that were not affected by SSBM or Undertale rallying were pieces of the same puzzle. The detailed analysis still needs to be done by my high level feeling is this contest largely fell in line with GotD stats.


This contest was:

1. GotD results are almost exactly the same
2. SNES stronger, Chrono Trigger especially stronger
3. FF7/OoT weaker

You've got some weird stuff like FF9 boosting but overall, that was it. The contest results were very easy to see coming once you figured out what the 'trend' of it all was.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
A 7000+ vote lead. My god.

This really was a Genocide run, and OoT truly is the Asgore of it.

It's too bad we can't get UT vs LoL.
KamikazePotato posted...
I don't think we need to worry too much about contest format, or even what type of contest it is.

We just need to have them more often. No one cares about Undertale doing this thing if the last Games Contest hadn't been in 2009. Now that we have a good format to re-use and Allen isn't ready to murder everyone by the end of this contest, I think we're set.


Eh, CJayC and Allen have always been reluctant to run general games contests with any frequency because it waters down the concept of "Best Game Ever" if you have them all the time.

Just change the title of the contest but whatever.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Yeah this format is godly. Multi-matches for most rounds is too good.


Stop this foolishness
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Today's match is the first time that Undertale is actually winning in Canada. However, Quebec continues to defy the establishment by not supporting Undertale.
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Multi-matches per day has its issues, but its the best format we've got. I see no reason to ditch it. I'm not sitting through anymore 24 hour fodder blowout matches after this.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Yeah, 24 hour multi-matches is better than 12 hour matches, in my opinion.

Just know when to cut back (which has always been Allen's problem. He went to the trouble of upscaling mid-contest, in fact).
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12/14/2015 10:53:54 PM#419
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Today's match is the first time that Undertale is actually winning in Canada. However, Quebec continues to defy the establishment by not supporting Undertale.


<3 Quebec
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Guess no one's trashing Gamefaqs in French!
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I think ideally you'd want two matches per round even in the early rounds, and scale back to 1v1 sooner

4 was kinda too much but spending 24 hours on a single fodder match is kind of a plod.
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12/14/2015 10:56:26 PM#422
Karma Hunter posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Yeah this format is godly. Multi-matches for most rounds is too good.


Stop this foolishness


12 hour matches f***ing suck and you know it.
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We should have multi-matches. We should in no way make most of the contest multi-matches like this year. Too many showdowns were polluted or outright ruined to begin with.

We got exactly three one poll a day matches this year, and two were blowouts well in excess of 60/40 (so far).
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Undertale starting to leave OoT in the dust.
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Lopen posted...
I think ideally you'd want two matches per round even in the early rounds, and scale back to 1v1 sooner

4 was kinda too much but spending 24 hours on a single fodder match is kind of a plod.


12 hour matches, 2 matches at a time?
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12/14/2015 10:56:45 PM#426
What Zelda fans are feeling right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypvg1WC-m-Y
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I think the Round 1: 4, Rounds 2 and 3: 2 idea was good. Wouldn't complain with Round 1 being 2 though.
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God, no 12 hour matches. Those were only okay because it meant we didn't have single 24 hour ones all contest.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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12/14/2015 10:57:36 PM#429
LeonhartFour posted...
Undertale starting to leave OoT in the dust.


Reddit isn't down anymore is why. This match is going to get very, very ugly.
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Karma Hunter posted...
We should have multi-matches. We should in no way make most of the contest multi-matches like this year. Too many showdowns were polluted or outright ruined to begin with.

We got exactly three one poll a day matches this year, and two were blowouts well in excess of 60/40 (so far).


Well, like I said, Allen never knows when to cut back. We only got 24 hour matches in 2010 in the semis for both contests.

and then Allen gave us 24 hour matches after round 1 for Rivalry Rumble which somehow became the worst of both worlds
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12/14/2015 10:58:29 PM#431
12 hour matches. 4 matches a time. 4 ways.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
12 hour matches. 4 matches a time. 4 ways.


*head explodes*
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
12 hour matches. 4 matches a time. 4 ways.


4 way rivalries
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Well maybe 4 the first round, 2 the second round.

Slow down after that though for sure. Could not breathe this contest.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
12 hour matches. 4 matches a time. 4 ways.


The thought of 16 games crammed onto the front page amuses me a little bit.
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12/14/2015 11:00:08 PM#436
LordoftheMorons posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
12 hour matches. 4 matches a time. 4 ways.


4 way rivalries


512 entries. None of them are Mario vs Sonic.
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Still waiting on that Female Villains Contest.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
What contest do y'all want to see in the next two years? Games, Series, Characters, Rivalry, or a new branch?

I wouldn't mind Series or Rivalry again
I mean, ideally R3 and on things should have been winnowed down to a vast majority of theoretically killer matches, right? I mean, of course you'll get Link killing a near-elite wasting a day but f*** we wasted a day on Ocarina/SMRPG almost anything is better than that.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
12 hour matches. 4 matches a time. 4 ways.


4 way quotes


fixed
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KamikazePotato posted...
Still waiting on that Female Villains Contest.

it can get in line

quotes contest will come one day

i believe
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LeonhartFour posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
12 hour matches. 4 matches a time. 4 ways.


4 way quotes


fixed

now we're talking
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nopenopenopenop posted...
I wouldn't mind Series or Rivalry again


yes the only two contests where multiple people got perfect brackets

let's do those again
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For the next Character Battle , there ought to be a champion's bracket or something. Maybe the a champion can run that bracket as a sort of Elite Four.
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Undertale by the hour:

1:00 | 62.57%
2:00 | 63.25%

Undertale......goes up the second hour.
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I wouldn't mind Series again as long as it was a 'break' contest. But since we'll be lucky to get 1 a year at this point, no.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Team Rocket Elite posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
12 hour matches. 4 matches a time. 4 ways.


4 way rivalries


512 entries. None of them are Mario vs Sonic.


Were there even 512 rivalries nominated for that godawful contest?
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Arcvalons posted...
For the next Character Battle , there ought to be a champion's bracket or something. Maybe the a champion can run that bracket as a sort of Elite Four.

We've done that before.

And really Link is the only one who has a case for being removed at this point.
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Arcvalons posted...
For the next Character Battle , there ought to be a champion's bracket or something. Maybe the a champion can run that bracket as a sort of Elite Four.


maybe we could do a Battle Royal or something

Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Mario
Samus
L-Block
Draven

Who's ready for THIS
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LeonhartFour posted...
nopenopenopenop posted...
I wouldn't mind Series or Rivalry again


yes the only two contests where multiple people got perfect brackets

let's do those again


I highly doubt Series in modern GFAQs contests would result in such an outcome again

Rivalry might.

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