Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1258 - Papyrus in Smash Bros Edition!

Team Rocket Elite posted...
So, who's ready for a 80s/90s Games contest?


This would actually be a lot of fun even if it's a shame we need to exclude so many games because a few of them are like this.
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Leon, how are you going to adjust UT's half vs. OoT's half?
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The multiple matches/24 hour format has been great though. That should stick around.

I mean, I'd personally be okay with 1-a-day even if it means we sit through the days of Link blowing people out, but it's not something I'd fight for.
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creativename posted...
Leon, how are you going to adjust UT's half vs. OoT's half?


I hope we get the CT/OOT bonus match to resolve this!
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creativename posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
creativename posted...
Who's Papyrus anyway?

Karma Hunter posted...
I think this contest is just gonna prove that Characters > Games from a contest standpoint (as we should have all known from the beginning!). Characters aren't nearly as rallyable, Draven aside. Even the Pokes aren't that good at it, and Mario wouldn't have lost to Vivi without Ganondorf in the poll even with all that rallying.

1v1 one poll a day Characters Contest let's see it happen people

4 polls/day first round, 2 per day second IMO.


Ugh okay but let's try to structure the bracket so potential spillover between matches is minimized

How would you predict spillover...? Hard to know who is rallyable before the contest.


All Pokemon will get rallied, for starters, it's just the nature of the beast. Putting other Nintendo games alongside them for the early rounds would be a no-no, unless you make it Nintendo versus Nintendo.

Also, this isn't so much a concern for fodder beatdowns, of course, Mario vs JC Denton or whatever is just fine to be run alongside a Pokepoll, I don't care about stats *that* much.
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creativename posted...
Leon, how are you going to adjust UT's half vs. OoT's half?


That's the question of the day.

I might just set OoT equal to CT. It'll be close enough.

Or I might look through the GOTD X-Stats to see if there's a good correlation. I'll just fiddle with things and see what looks "right."
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ZFS posted...
Undertake has broken us all


we might as well flood gamefaqs and turn into bird people because the hero never came


Rofl yes it's true. In an alternate dimension, Undertale was stopped by Mario World and OoT is pulling out a close victory over Melee.

Zelda fans saw the beating the Smash community got, and collectively shrugged at each other while waiting for Zelda U which wins next year's contest.
Bonus match needs to be held Thursday tbqh.

Have tomorrow be the "How do you feel?" poll and try to get the bonus poll away from rally spillover.

i'm sure it would fail or the bonus match itself would be rallied but...

(not that this'll happen at all)
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xp1337 posted...
The multiple matches/24 hour format has been great though. That should stick around.

I mean, I'd personally be okay with 1-a-day even if it means we sit through the days of Link blowing people out, but it's not something I'd fight for.


Yeah, I'm fine with 4 matches per day for the first round if we're going to stick with 128 characters (and we are). I just want him to cut back to 1 match per day sooner than the semis.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
So, who's ready for a 80s/90s Games contest?

Yesssss
....let's take out Pokemon and Starcraft just to be safe
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jigenese posted...
It would have been cool to see what the actual best game ever is thought of, but it looks like we won't. However, I have to admit I'm loving the fact that this is the result. Made me laugh when I saw Undertale was going to win. haha
The internet... haha


EDGE Mag says its Dark Souls
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Keep in mind even a bracket with Draven probably gets stopped cold in R1 in 2013 if the matches are 1v1. He only got 40% in that first poll!

1v1 now 1v1 forever
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Karma Hunter posted...
Keep in mind even a bracket with Draven probably gets stopped cold in R1 in 2013 if the matches are 1v1. He only got 40% in that first poll!

1v1 now 1v1 forever


He only got 44% against Link/Shepard and 49% against Snake/Samus. Undertale > Draven.
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12/14/2015 10:34:54 PM#365
Wait why are we adjusting stats?

A raw list will still exist somewhere, right?
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...I guess with the Nintendo Power Hour over it's time for Undertale to rise again.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Wait why are we adjusting stats?


Because not everyone treats stats like a complete joke like you!

But I'll have a list of raw stats after this match, yeah.
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We don't get games contests as often as the Character Battle, so there is a need to try and salvage the X-Stats here.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
So, who's ready for a 80s/90s Games contest?

Yesssss
....let's take out Pokemon and Starcraft just to be safe


Starcraft has never even beaten a game from the 90s.
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What the hell was that update
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Janus5k posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
So, who's ready for a 80s/90s Games contest?

Yesssss
....let's take out Pokemon and Starcraft just to be safe


Starcraft has never even beaten a game from the 90s.


And now it never will.
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CT/OOT feels kinda silly at this point.
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Janus5k posted...
Starcraft has never even beaten a game from the 90s.


Starcraft no match for FFVIII

FFVIII redeemed
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ZFS posted...
CT/OOT feels kinda silly at this point.


About 20 times as exciting as Link/Snake last contest.
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You can't seriously be considering a 80s and 90s nostalgia contest , right? We already know all the finalists, etc.
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After all, nobody out-rallies FFVIII.

Not even Starcraft.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Keep in mind even a bracket with Draven probably gets stopped cold in R1 in 2013 if the matches are 1v1. He only got 40% in that first poll!

1v1 now 1v1 forever


I think undertale debunked that. Rallies will get whatever is necessary to win
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Undertale loses R1 in a 12-hour night match though
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Arcvalons posted...
You can't seriously be considering a 80s and 90s nostalgia contest , right? We already know all the finalists, etc.


ET will rally and win it.
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LeonhartFour posted...
After all, nobody out-rallies FFVIII.

Not even Starcraft.

Squall has millions of rabid fans just waiting for the signal! He's just been waiting for the right time to strike!
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pjbasis posted...
I think undertale debunked that. Rallies will get whatever is necessary to win


Eh, the first round is different. If you're going to kill a rally, you have to do it right away or it's too late.

If Undertale had faced Fallout 3 round 1, it'd have lost.
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Draven will be stopped R1 this time. But another LoL character def has a chance to make it far. Like Poppy.
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12/14/2015 10:39:10 PM#384
xp1337 posted...
Honestly, I'm not totally sure I want another contest. I mean, I won't lie, if we get one I'll almost certainly end up making a bracket and hang around here, even if at my lowest I tell myself I'd just stay away, but I've just come to accept this'll all happen again. It'd just be setting myself up for disappointment.

I'm not actually advocating for ending all contests because even if that's how I might feel at times, that's just me and I don't think it should be decided on my whim... but like... ugh.

It's the new era now!


This is mostly how I feel as well. I think I've mostly learned to give up early on rallies being defeated and just try and enjoy the other matches in the contest. Like CT's insane run was fun and trying to figure out Division 7 and 8 as SMRPG ran through it was cool. Also Undertale's place was just really unusually bad and crash the party on numerous high tier matches. That hopefully will be less of a problem in the future.

Ending contests doesn't really solve anything. Other people tend to really like chaos like this. So even if you or I eventually call it quits because the contests have shifted too far from what we like, they should still go on for the people who like them.
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ZFS posted...
CT/OOT feels kinda silly at this point.


I'd still be interested in seeing that match just to see if CT can actually beat OoT.
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pjbasis posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Keep in mind even a bracket with Draven probably gets stopped cold in R1 in 2013 if the matches are 1v1. He only got 40% in that first poll!

1v1 now 1v1 forever


I think undertale debunked that. Rallies will get whatever is necessary to win


Eh, with Mass Effect 3 that wasn't the case. That was a mad scramble that only barely connected at the end, and would have failed against pretty much any other game worth a damn.

Catching fire is the hardest part. The true finals was never Undertale/Ocarina, or SSBM/Undertale, or Pokemon/Undertale. It was always - always, always, always - Mass Effect 3/Undertale.
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ok I totally forgot 2009 was a thing when I wrote that

It's still never won a poll with a 90s game in it...!
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If OoT beats CT by more than Link got on Snake I will never let red sox live it down
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LordoftheMorons posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
After all, nobody out-rallies FFVIII.

Not even Starcraft.

Squall has millions of rabid fans just waiting for the signal! He's just been waiting for the right time to strike!

Vivi stole his time to shine! FFIX better LOOK OUT if it ever faces FFVIII again!
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Undertale surging again, looks like someone is rallying a bit more.
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I let Vivi win that match. I could've opened the floodgates anytime.

That's right, I admit it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk
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12/14/2015 10:41:27 PM#392
LeonhartFour posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Wait why are we adjusting stats?


Because not everyone treats stats like a complete joke like you!

But I'll have a list of raw stats after this match, yeah.


I was just trolling with lol x-stats, I know they have a place.

I do think every match is its own entity though. This contest proved that.
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I actually would love a 80's game contest (games released from 1980 to 1989).

My bracket would have Nethack to win it all though!
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And also, I hate to say it because it sounds so counterintuitive, but...

Link is way stronger than Ocarina of Time. His furious charge against Draven contrasted with OoT just lying down as virtually zero Zelda fans even bother to care is very striking.
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12/14/2015 10:44:47 PM#395
Karma Hunter posted...
And also, I hate to say it because it sounds so counterintuitive, but...

Link is way stronger than Ocarina of Time. His furious charge against Draven contrasted with OoT just lying down as virtually zero Zelda fans even bother to care is very striking.


The strongest fair entrant we've had is probably LoZ in the series contest.
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Karma Hunter posted...
And also, I hate to say it because it sounds so counterintuitive, but...

Link is way stronger than Ocarina of Time. His furious charge against Draven contrasted with OoT just lying down as virtually zero Zelda fans even bother to care is very striking.

I almost disagreed with this line of thought back when I was in character, but IIRC, Link actually held up shockingly well in the Power Hour. I think Draven had to wait until after to really bury him.

OoT just got blown out.
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Karma Hunter posted...
And also, I hate to say it because it sounds so counterintuitive, but...

Link is way stronger than Ocarina of Time. His furious charge against Draven contrasted with OoT just lying down as virtually zero Zelda fans even bother to care is very striking.


At 1:45:

Ocarina of Time - 10518
Draven - 9912
Link - 8692

OOT is getting way more votes than Link did. Final Form Undertale is just that much stronger than Draven.
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I could buy the Series Contest entities being stronger, but we also don't ever ever ever ever need that kind of contest ever again.

Link vis-a-vis Ocarina is important because we will hopefully have another Characters and another Games Contest.
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GranzonEx posted...
Who's ready for no contests forever

I still enjoy these, just not nearly as much as a rally-less version.

Would love registered user results for each match.
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