GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1257
armitage999 posted... I still find it odd that this site can't really retain the traffic spikes from matchups involving Draven and Undertale. I would think that a lot of people who play these games would at least throw some votes for other matchups here and there. Presumably they only come when the poll is brought to their attention, and well, that only happens on rally days. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
What reason is there for people to come back? --- Not_Wylvane |
Now
if you want an interesting theory that explains why Bacon thinks the
majority of the extra votes are coming from Reddit despite there not
being any real evidence of big traction on Reddit... The "method" out there that exists to break our anti-stuffing methods spoofs reddit referral data. Whoever made it tailored it specifically for that for the votes to "blend in" with the reddit rallies that are easily visible (sometime between round 1 and round 2), which at the time was the Draven rally. Now they (or whatever parties they've given their code/method to) are just reusing the same method cause Bacon hasn't figured out yet and is showing no signs of actually figuring it out yet. Now being reused, the majority of votes are again coming "from reddit" because the majority of the votes are using the same method the Draven thing did, which spoofs reddit referral data. It would make a lot of sense. THIS I will admit is more speculation than just analyzing the data and will allow moon landing crap to be thrown at me for, but it does make some degree of sense to me. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... Better get used to it because every single match is going to have rallies going forward. I am definitely not addressing the rest of this topic trainwreck but, in a word, duh. Dumb rallies are hardly new and neither is me making fun of them. I also like how Mario/Cloud 2002 keeps getting brought up like the board didn't get pissed off as hell at that result or that it didn't catapult Mario into the villain of the 2002 contest. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Or that Mario/Crono 2003 didn't turn Mario into such a villain that Sephiroth eviscerated him the next round. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
George Bush never outright came out and DENIED the allegations that he ordered 9/11 to happen. That must mean he did it. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
Even Cloud beating Link in 2003 was met with calls of boycotting the final. --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > MGS Points 211/352 |
Mario already dropped an egg vs Shadow before that right? --- Watch me play games! http://www.twitch.tv/lordofdabu |
charmander6000 posted... Even Cloud beating Link in 2003 was met with calls of boycotting the final. Well FFVII always wins, so can you blame them? --- Watch me play games! http://www.twitch.tv/lordofdabu |
LordOfDabu posted... Mario already dropped an egg vs Shadow before that right? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1345-south-division-round-2-mario-vs-shadow-the-hedgehog Never forget this was good enough to beat Crono. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
LeonhartFour posted... LordOfDabu posted...Mario already dropped an egg vs Shadow before that right? Ten years later, he loses to Vivi and still beats Crono. --- Not_Wylvane |
mario's win in mario/crono ii should be vacated make it happen bacon --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
I
liked this topic better when Wylvane was making t**** comparisons.
Draven and Undertale could have cheated, but I don't know what a user
can see to point that out definitively now and there's nobody with
better information (or looser passwords, granted) than SBAllen. Calling Undertale anything but fodder before its first rally is a joke though. Not one game from 2012 has looked decent at all since 2012, and ME3 is the most popular game to hate in some time. That game was doubling Undertale for maybe 17 hours or so. This is in a contest where -- outside of Undertale when it's rallied -- most other indie games or games from 2015 looked unimpressive or weak. If the logic's that rallies of this magnatude are part of Undertale's intrinsic strength, let's fast forward to the next BGE that Undertale is in. Lightning probably doesn't strike twice, right? It already won a championship and is no longer the hip new game...so even if it became significantly stronger with GameFAQs regulars since winning this contest, would you say Undertale dropped a lot in strength just because tumblr didn't support it? That idea sounds misleading to me. I think I get your point that each match has a life of its own, but it's wrong and intentionally dramatic to say this is Undertale's natural strength. It's not, not anymore than ME3 is naturally #2. --- M E N: nominate Metal Man in 20XX! http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png |
someone needs to post that image of guys shouting at the computer screen about Mario/Crono II --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
21st century art: http://i.imgur.com/P64rYi1.jpg --- M E N: nominate Metal Man in 20XX! http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png |
Man, that pic never gets old. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
HaRRicH posted... 21st century art: I miss moments like this. This is the kind of stuff we don't get anymore because the contest is a foregone conclusion after the first match due to rallying --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
Alright,
made up my mind. Supporting Ocarina of Time will be much more fun,
because it is a huge underdog. I can't help but support the underdog! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
But Undertale's the plucky underdog It's been quite the Cinderella run, guys, but now we've got Zelda in the finals, I think it's gonna be too much :( --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
I don't know how they keep on doing it! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
how
do they only keep winning by a few thousand votes? you'd think with
proper ballot-stuffing, they would run away by 5 figures. |
Huh, vote totals have picked up in the second half of the match. I wonder if that Kotaku article did it. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
WARNING SIRENS Reddit is currently down... for scheduled maintenance. Will it still be down in two hours' time? And will our single biggest source of traffic still be reddit referrals? Will hit or miss Lopen strike again? Only time can tell --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
this is why Allen moved the finals up HE KNEW THIS WAS COMING --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
LeonhartFour posted... this is why Allen moved the finals up what a twist! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
LeonhartFour posted... Huh, vote totals have picked up in the second half of the match. I wonder if that Kotaku article did it. It did actually boost vote totals. See this post for more information: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72991801/839263350 --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as DpObliVion, Guru Champ! |
Allen is a master orchestrator. How shrewd! |
Wait. wait hold up guys i've cracked the code again We already knew that OoT/SotN was just a cover for Link and Alucard discussing The Plan. What we didn't know was that afterwards, Link told Bacon: "Look to my coming at the first light on the fifth day. At dawn, look to the East!" when was that match? five days ago --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? (edited 12/14/2015 7:23:10 PM)report |
You guys can have your Undertales and Dravens and rallies and Pokemons Mario/Crono is still the best match of all-time --- satoru iwata |
I'd probably put Link/Draven at #1 but it's definitely close and Mario/Crono II would be #2 for sure. I don't think any other match from 2013 or this contest would really even place anywhere good on a list if I tried to make one. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
I didn't even get the witness the comeback live but I came back to greatness and soiled pants --- satoru iwata |
ZFS posted... You guys can have your Undertales and Dravens and rallies and Pokemons Indeed. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
ZFS posted... Mario/Crono is still the best match of all-time here here --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS |
ZFS posted... I didn't even get the witness the comeback live but I came back to greatness and soiled pants are you saying you had laid your seed in your pants --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS |
ExThaNemesis posted... ZFS posted...I didn't even get the witness the comeback live but I came back to greatness and soiled pants http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/MarioWins.jpg http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/MarioWinsBoard.jpg The best --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
LeonhartFour posted... http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/MarioWins.jpg "So do you think Mario has a good shot at Sephiroth" LOL NOPE --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS |
ROUND 7 – DAY 1 – FINALS Match CXXVII: (6) Undertale vs. (1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Previous Rounds Undertale 50.95% against Mass Effect 3 55.74% against Fallout 3 54.84% against Super Mario World 51.52% against Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow/Green 51.33% against Super Mario 64 51.20% against Super Smash Bros. Melee The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 91.03% against Hearthstone 76.89% against Suikoden II 64.96% against Final Fantasy IX 68.18% against Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 59.90% against The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 67.50% against Super Mario RPG Analysis Welcome to the finals. Usually the finals aren’t that interesting since an entrant is always the big favourite though in a twist that big favourite is Undertale. After over 175k votes cast Melee couldn’t defeat it so what chance would Ocarina of Time have? Some people have called Undertale a weaker Draven, but it has clearly shown to be on another level, even compared with Round 2 Draven. So what would it take for Ocarina of Time to win? Timing. As seen with Melee as soon as you take the lead the match is over as Undertale takes it up to another gear. The only way I see Undertale ever losing is if you take the lead right at the end of the match. But that would require great restraint on Zelda fans to keep it close and the way Tumblr works would require fans to adjust their rallying throughout the day as Undertale becomes strong during the ASV. It just seems to require too much coordination in order to get right. charmander6000’s Bracket: LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Super Mario 64 charmander6000’s Prediction: Undertale wins, 52.32% - 47.68% --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > MGS Points 211/352 |
UltimaterializerX posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Ulti's showing his ignorance again. The only pre-Draven rally that required a lot of outside support was Starcraft in 2004. Everything else was small potatoes and I don't think there were any results changed due to rallies, aside from the already super close matches like Frog/Chief or Frog/Liquid. Agreed. Except the Squall thing I dunno about that >_> I would say Squall rallied too just because every close match has rallying, but Luigi likely had more exterior votes behind him. Another consideration that we take into account is the bandwagon effect with certain games. It's almost impossible to calculate it but we all consider it and don't complain about it. Part of the fun is trying to predict the unpredictable. That's where your whacky theories get borne out. Also, over 80% of the contest still had matches won by good old fashioned math. The only thing I might say to mitigate someone getting lucky with joke entry picks to win the contest is to make the last few rounds much less heavily weighted in points. I wouldn't be upset with a linear progression of points per match in each round going 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10. So picking the final winner gets more weight because you should be rewarded for that, but it's not enough to win you the whole tournament if you f***ed up a LOT of other picks. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." (edited 12/14/2015 7:47:35 PM)report |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... I would say Squall rallied too just because every close match has rallying, but Luigi likely had more exterior votes behind him. This is going to become memetic, people, until saying Squall/Luigi was rallying becomes conventional wisdom --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Becomes? i for one think we're already there --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Are you guys ready for RALLIES tomorrow?? I know I am. For very good reason too :) --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
xp1337 posted... Wait. Post of the contest |
WARNING SIRENS(?) Reddit is back up for now. Contest... saved? I just wanted to see if the referral traffic changed any myself shrug --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Karma Hunter posted... WARNING SIRENS(?) You and me both, man. Though ideally I would've liked that to happen during the match after a rally topic was up. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
HaRRicH posted... 21st century art: f***in guy at the bottom is the best. I can't believe how much this image is seared in my brain, I probably haven't seen it in well over five years but remember every detail LOL. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
I
actually wish I was both more skilled/creative and more confident
because I'd totally try to whip up some hype videos or art or something
for Link to go with the act, but alas I am not! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Karma Hunter posted... This is going to become memetic, people, until saying Squall/Luigi was rallying becomes conventional wisdom well Ulti apparently knew the entire internet came out to rally Cloud over Link and just sat on it for 12 years until two weeks ago who knows what else he's been hiding from us --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
I'm still mad CATS was robbed --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Who knew? The reason FF7 can't rally is because they already hit their rally ceiling every match! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
FFVII's
traditional "rise to heaven" was rallying all along! That awful board
vote was really its true strength and we just never knew! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif What DpOblivion did to me in the Guru Contest, in GIF form |
