UltimaterializerX posted...
Black Turtle gets it.

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JJH777 posted...
Don't forget to message some Zelda facebook pages for OoT support if you are rooting for it. OoT has so many places that can rally for it there is still hope if a few people get the word out there. Pretty much any group you tell about this match is going to favor OoT more than Undertale.

https://www.facebook.com/OcarinaofTime3DS/
https://www.facebook.com/SkywardSwordWii/?fref=nf
https://www.facebook.com/The-Legend-of-Zelda-Ocarina-of-Time-N64-is-greatest-game-of-all-time-281824415125/
https://www.facebook.com/LoZmemes/
https://www.facebook.com/LegendofZelda/
https://www.facebook.com/zeldauniverse
https://www.facebook.com/ZeldaInformer
https://www.facebook.com/I.love.Legend.of.Zelda
https://www.facebook.com/zeldawiki/

Takes like 30 seconds to message them and just one of them posting about it could make a gigantic difference.


I messaged them all man. We have to try. What's the harm? Took me literally 2 minutes of effort. I'm getting real sick of KH telling us we don't get it. Just shut up, man. We know OOT is probably gonna lose, we just wanna try for fun and if more people put in effort it could actually work especially with the Nintendo direct and people paying attention to Nintendo news and pages for the only day in months. These pages have like 500+k likes, tens of thousands of engagements in likes, comments and shares (which all take the same or more effort than voting) and some have huge websites as well. Even if OOT doesn't win we can make a game of it for fun. Better than sitting back and going yep there goes Undertale.
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Are we really at the level where we're flat-out disbelieving what Allen says now

Can we not turn the last reasonable topic on Board 8 crazy, I'd actually like to be able to read posts here
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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There have always been people who disbelieve the admin, even when it was CJayC.
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And while the anti-Undertale rallies probably won't work there's no harm in trying. What's the worst that could happen?
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Holy crap. Just found this Kotaku article. And now I understand why GameFAQs hates Kotaku so much:

http://kotaku.com/undertale-is-tearing-gamefaqs-apart-1747991599
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KamikazePotato posted...
And while the anti-Undertale rallies probably won't work there's no harm in trying. What's the worst that could happen?


Ocarina of Time could end up second in the X-Stats.
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Scarlettail posted...
This comic is neat.
http://40.media.tumblr.com/e2ceb56c5f9f5d11ef4213cb848b5f99/tumblr_nzccc6pKj51uhov31o1_1280.png


This was pretty good but man have Undertale fans ruined the word determination it's like Portal Cake
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What motivation does Bacon actually have to tell the truth here, exactly? Cause I've got a lot of reasons I could name for him to have motivation to lie here. Also the claims he's making are kinda bold to begin with-- bold claims need stronger evidence than he's providing.

I haven't believed anything he's said about this contest all the way back to the nomination phase. (Good job keeping League of Legends out of the bracket, dude)
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Why they don't mention Mass Effect 3?
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KamikazePotato posted...
Are we really at the level where we're flat-out disbelieving what Allen says now

Can we not turn the last reasonable topic on Board 8 crazy, I'd actually like to be able to read posts here


Who is disbelieving him??

EDIT: nvm i see Lopen's post now. But in all fairness he has had his reasons for disbelief dating back to the Draven match and the site crash. He's not "tin foil hat" as if he thinks there are explanations beyond what is reasonable, he just doesn't agree with how Allen explained the site crash and other voting statistics to support that the voting was legitimate. If you think Lopen's analysis is wrong then be my guest and explain it to him, because I don't know enough about running a website to argue about it.
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I'm really not going to stop making fun of rallying, so you might as well put me on ignore if it's so offensive to your delicate sensibilities. This isn't about 'self-defense', either - we would have had a game not even worth 40% on Chrono Trigger in the finals ensuring a blowout Ocarina victory if it weren't for Undertale.

Board 8 is no different from Undertale fans. The only difference is they're not as good.
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Oh god kotaku link. That's exactly what happened with l-block.
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OrangeCrush980 posted...
Holy crap. Just found this Kotaku article. And now I understand why GameFAQs hates Kotaku so much:

http://kotaku.com/undertale-is-tearing-gamefaqs-apart-1747991599


Man that isn't even a bad article. It wasn't deceiving, it wasn't clickbaity, and in general it was actually competently written. Who'd get mad over something like this?

The same people it's calling out, of course.
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KamikazePotato posted...
Oh god kotaku link. That's exactly what happened with l-block.


Did it? It's been a long time, I don't remember this!
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So...

What are OoT's chances tomorrow?
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Ocarina of Time is a plucky underdog tomorrow
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
So...

What are OoT's chances tomorrow?


I would currently say, uh, above zero

but also below 1%
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pst - http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/568795-soccer-challenge
this is the exact path that L-Block took. I even wrote about it in my analysis today.
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Lopen posted...
What motivation does Bacon actually have to tell the truth here, exactly? Cause I've got a lot of reasons I could name for him to have motivation to lie here. Also the claims he's making are kinda bold to begin with-- bold claims need stronger evidence than he's providing.

I haven't believed anything he's said about this contest all the way back to the nomination phase. (Good job keeping League of Legends out of the bracket, dude)


Yeah and you're being completely unreasonable dude. Bacon has basically been transparent about this whole process. He straight-up told us he kept out our Guru nom and lawyered out SMB1 and LoZ1 and didn't give a f*** about our reaction and really not a single claim has been bold, you just assume it's bold because it doesn't fit your worldview.

And I absolutely believe that League of Legends didn't make the cut. Maybe it was in the Top 128, but it's very easy to imagine that it wasn't in the Top 100. The fanbase didn't mobilize at all for the game this contest, no one on the LoL board gave a crap, it wasn't linked on reddit, and they're the only ones that would've done anything. Add in his Metacritic + User Review system and yeah. Given that he's pretty much having fun with the Undertale rallies and openly endorsed rallying in the contest rules I doubt it's something that was a specific priority for him.

But if you want to disbelieve literally everything the only accurate source of information we can get on these contests says, then yeah go ahead there's pretty much no way to convince you otherwise. Try and prove that the aliens exist next too. Just don't drag the rest of the stats topic into your pace.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Holy crap. Just found this Kotaku article. And now I understand why GameFAQs hates Kotaku so much:

http://kotaku.com/undertale-is-tearing-gamefaqs-apart-1747991599


It’s demolishing the competition, even when it comes to games that are considered sacred by the hardcore gaming community:


Proceeds to list every poll Undertale was in... except Mass Effect 3.

Lol.
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MechanicalWall posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Holy crap. Just found this Kotaku article. And now I understand why GameFAQs hates Kotaku so much:

http://kotaku.com/undertale-is-tearing-gamefaqs-apart-1747991599


It’s demolishing the competition, even when it comes to games that are considered sacred by the hardcore gaming community:


Proceeds to list every poll Undertale was in... except Mass Effect 3.

Lol.


He probably didn't want to expend more time in finding an already inconvenient poll to look for.
Well, Mass Effect 3 is more sacrilege than sacred to the hardcore gaming community.

Only true hipsters like myself love it.
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Hey, hey. Let's be fair here. It says "demolishing"

Mass Effect 3 is omitted because it stood up like a champ!
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KanzarisKelshen posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Holy crap. Just found this Kotaku article. And now I understand why GameFAQs hates Kotaku so much:

http://kotaku.com/undertale-is-tearing-gamefaqs-apart-1747991599


Man that isn't even a bad article. It wasn't deceiving, it wasn't clickbaity, and in general it was actually competently written. Who'd get mad over something like this?

The same people it's calling out, of course.


>_>

It's "calling out" an entire site for the actions of a few posters that are just as likely false flagging.

Also, it says "undertale" is tearing apart "GameFAQs" despite the obvious logical inconsistency there. GameFAQs is not a game; Undertale is not a website or collection of users. Undertale might be tearing apart SMW, or RBY, or Fallout; or you could say Tumblr/Reddit/etc is tearing apart GameFAQs. Mixing the two is silly and is clearly done for the purposes of inflammatory rhetoric.

Bottom line: GameFAQs represents the establishment now, and has done so since at least 2010. So any media outlet loves to see newer/younger demographics "sticking it to the man" because they want to appeal to that demographic from an economic perspective. This is nothing more than a poorly researched fluff-clickbait article. And it continues the trend I've noticed in the last 5-10 years that Internet media in general has a really, really dismal view of its elders (just like pop culture in general).

I suppose we should be flattered, in a way. For people who claim to love salt, they are going to a lot of trouble to get it from a very specific group of people. There are, what, two hundred Board 8 regulars? And about 90k potential GameFAQs voters compared to sites like tumblr, reddit, kotaku, whoever? At least we have 10+ years of emotional investment on which to lean when we say "we care about the contest." The most anyone can say as an anti-voter is "for the salt." And let's face it, no one who says that should be given any other emotive response beyond pity.
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Karma Hunter posted...
I'm really not going to stop making fun of rallying, so you might as well put me on ignore if it's so offensive to your delicate sensibilities. This isn't about 'self-defense', either - we would have had a game not even worth 40% on Chrono Trigger in the finals ensuring a blowout Ocarina victory if it weren't for Undertale.

Board 8 is no different from Undertale fans. The only difference is they're not as good.


I find the ignore feature to be offensive tbh.

I just don't understand why you are making fun of rallying? Because it will be fruitless? So what? You've completely misunderstood the point and that's why your posts are annoying. At least it might generate some decent votals and ebbs and flows in the match. That's all I care about. It will make the day a little more exciting.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72993807

Preview for tomorrow, OR IS IT

it is
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Guys what are we doing

I want more poems and haikus about Link saving the contest
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Oh, and just so an oppurtunity doesn't go to waste:

"YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, UNDERTALE!"
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Karma Hunter posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72993807

Preview for tomorrow, OR IS IT

it is


See I knew it board 8 has become the thing it most despised
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I'm really not going to stop making fun of rallying, so you might as well put me on ignore if it's so offensive to your delicate sensibilities. This isn't about 'self-defense', either - we would have had a game not even worth 40% on Chrono Trigger in the finals ensuring a blowout Ocarina victory if it weren't for Undertale.

Board 8 is no different from Undertale fans. The only difference is they're not as good.


I find the ignore feature to be offensive tbh.

I just don't understand why you are making fun of rallying? Because it will be fruitless? So what? You've completely misunderstood the point and that's why your posts are annoying. At least it might generate some decent votals and ebbs and flows in the match. That's all I care about. It will make the day a little more exciting.


It's also possible this is his way of rallying for Undertale. By mocking the rallies on Board 8 enough that people gave up hope. After someone is right about futility enough times, you start to believe them even if you don't want to. And there is no doubt that we are WAY more emotionally apathetic about tomorrow's match than about LSD before it happened.
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Man, opinions of OoT as a game really went down in the last few months.

I came back down to early and thought Undertale could put up 59% on OoT, but now, I dunno.
Bacon feeds enough "information" to us to appease yes men and make people like me seem completely unreasonable dude. It's smart by him.

But there are definitely reasons to assume he was against League. I mean he specifically said he tried to get them to stop their crusade last contest, then gave us some crap about his wife doing it or something, then later went back and said he himself did it.

We've had plenty of reason to think he's been dishonest with the information he gives us. He's been caught in lies before. And what information he feeds us often doesn't line up with the data we have, even if it's less than what he has. There's a reason "stuffed votes were caught for the losing game 2:1" is a running joke-- I mean I guess you can just assume that those are always the cheated votes that are caught and the match results have just never been flipped..

You have to accept a lot of outright contradictions of the data we have to look at to just buy what he says at face value. Again, some people will just accept this because it feels kinda helpless to assume even the admin is lying, but actual evidence and motivations, and not just blind trust support him lying.
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What I'm saying is board 8 you are Anakin Skywalker Undertale is the Emperor and you never get to be Darth Vader
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ZFS posted...
Guys what are we doing

I want more poems and haikus about Link saving the contest

there once was a man named link
who when wearing iron boots would sink
no one else is as brave
so he came here to save
and bring the contest back from the brink
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
I just don't understand why you are making fun of rallying?


Because pointless or not, rallies are still lame. I'd rather embrace the entropy of an Undertale behemoth burning down the contest than side with counterrallying from a community that was already lameing s*** up with Meleerallies and Pokerallies.
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Julian_Caesar posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I'm really not going to stop making fun of rallying, so you might as well put me on ignore if it's so offensive to your delicate sensibilities. This isn't about 'self-defense', either - we would have had a game not even worth 40% on Chrono Trigger in the finals ensuring a blowout Ocarina victory if it weren't for Undertale.

Board 8 is no different from Undertale fans. The only difference is they're not as good.


I find the ignore feature to be offensive tbh.

I just don't understand why you are making fun of rallying? Because it will be fruitless? So what? You've completely misunderstood the point and that's why your posts are annoying. At least it might generate some decent votals and ebbs and flows in the match. That's all I care about. It will make the day a little more exciting.


It's also possible this is his way of rallying for Undertale. By mocking the rallies on Board 8 enough that people gave up hope. After someone is right about futility enough times, you start to believe them even if you don't want to. And there is no doubt that we are WAY more emotionally apathetic about tomorrow's match than about LSD before it happened.


Too bad it won't work because I don't give a s***. I rallied almost every close match this contest even the ones where it was basically impossible for a comeback.
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xp1337 posted...

there once was a man named link
who when wearing iron boots would sink
no one else is as brave
so he came here to save
and bring the contest back from the brink


I'll take it
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ZFS posted...
I'll take it

Hey! It's not something I'm good at!
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I'm sure it has been asked before, but has there ever been a reason given for why we're allowed to have licensed games in contests (like Batman), but not have any of those characters in contests? I mean I know Batman didn't originate in a game, but if you're going to allow his games in contests why not just allow the character and limit his pictures to all ones from gaming? Just feels kinda odd knowing we can have contests with those kinds of games, but their characters are forever banned just because they weren't created in a video game.
Lopen posted...
But there are definitely reasons to assume he was against League. I mean he specifically said he tried to get them to stop their crusade last contest, then gave us some crap about his wife doing it or something, then later went back and said he himself did it.


Yeah I was thinking about this. Boy what a weird two days we had during LSD.
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Don't worry I was never a pro at this either

I peaked when I rapped about Algus
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Lopen, I'm going to be frank: you sound legitimately insane right now. The only lie Bacon has ever been 'caught' in was the wife thing that he probablyed made up, and there's pretty obvious reasons why he needed to do that. Everything else you consider a lie is just you making assumptions based on incomplete data, and then using those false assumptions to create other false assumptions. You're basically Board 8's version of a conspiracy theorist except those probably have a higher accuracy rating than your stuff!
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
LOL some game 5 people have played is being "sanjaya"'d to the top of this sham of a bracket? Better than FF6, SOTN and Last of us? uncharted 2? Some of the worst blasphemy ever heard in gaming.
There are obvious reasons why he needs to claim there's no cheating now too! You being too thick to see them is not my problem!
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Karma Hunter posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
I just don't understand why you are making fun of rallying?


Because pointless or not, rallies are still lame. I'd rather embrace the entropy of an Undertale behemoth burning down the contest than side with counterrallying from a community that was already lameing s*** up with Meleerallies and Pokerallies.


Better get used to it because every single match is going to have rallies going forward. Hell most of them already did this year.
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It's not a good look when GameFAQs is known around the entire internet for whining too much every time a chosen one loses in a poll.
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swordz9 posted...
I'm sure it has been asked before, but has there ever been a reason given for why we're allowed to have licensed games in contests (like Batman), but not have any of those characters in contests? I mean I know Batman didn't originate in a game, but if you're going to allow his games in contests why not just allow the character and limit his pictures to all ones from gaming? Just feels kinda odd knowing we can have contests with those kinds of games, but their characters are forever banned just because they weren't created in a video game.


Because Batman would not be voted as a video game character. Batman video games are entirely living and dying as games. I mean there's no real contradiction here, everyone knows the reason.

I want John Madden in next
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