the right game won indie game of the year (Ori)
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JJH777 posted...
Don't forget to message some Zelda facebook pages for OoT support if you are rooting for it. OoT has so many places that can rally for it there is still hope if a few people get the word out there. Pretty much any group you tell about this match is going to favor OoT more than Undertale.

https://www.facebook.com/OcarinaofTime3DS/
https://www.facebook.com/SkywardSwordWii/?fref=nf
https://www.facebook.com/The-Legend-of-Zelda-Ocarina-of-Time-N64-is-greatest-game-of-all-time-281824415125/
https://www.facebook.com/LoZmemes/
https://www.facebook.com/LegendofZelda/
https://www.facebook.com/zeldauniverse
https://www.facebook.com/ZeldaInformer
https://www.facebook.com/I.love.Legend.of.Zelda
https://www.facebook.com/zeldawiki/

Takes like 30 seconds to message them and just one of them posting about it could make a gigantic difference.


The issue is total votes at this point. Today's match was berserk early but that was all rally spillover. Today's total votes might not equal Melee's total from yesterday.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
JJH777 posted...
Don't forget to message some Zelda facebook pages for OoT support if you are rooting for it. OoT has so many places that can rally for it there is still hope if a few people get the word out there. Pretty much any group you tell about this match is going to favor OoT more than Undertale.

https://www.facebook.com/OcarinaofTime3DS/
https://www.facebook.com/SkywardSwordWii/?fref=nf
https://www.facebook.com/The-Legend-of-Zelda-Ocarina-of-Time-N64-is-greatest-game-of-all-time-281824415125/
https://www.facebook.com/LoZmemes/
https://www.facebook.com/LegendofZelda/
https://www.facebook.com/zeldauniverse
https://www.facebook.com/ZeldaInformer
https://www.facebook.com/I.love.Legend.of.Zelda
https://www.facebook.com/zeldawiki/

Takes like 30 seconds to message them and just one of them posting about it could make a gigantic difference.


The issue is total votes at this point. Today's match was berserk early but that was all rally spillover. Today's total votes might not equal Melee's total from yesterday.


That's exactly why we need to get some rallies going for Zelda tonight.
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I am glad we've completely put behind us the really silly underdog, who knows if it'll win!! mentality we had for like, well, until yesterday! That was a bad period for everyone.
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I've already messaged 3 tumblr pages but really don't expect them to actually post about the contest. Still, I encourage every effort you guys can make since that's the only way OOT can put a somewhat interesting fight.

I promise you guys I'll become an internet celebrity until next contest just in case we have another super rally to balance things out.
ZFS posted...
I am glad we've completely put behind us the really silly underdog, who knows if it'll win!! mentality we had for like, well, until yesterday! That was a bad period for everyone.


I thought that mentality had died with RBY.
so has everyone given up on Zelda? I did after the Fallout 3 match but everyone else had been saying for so long that Zelda is a whole different animal and that Link would have beaten Draven without the downtime, etc.
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WhiteLens posted...
Still doesn't top Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/943695-fire-emblem-shadow-dragon/stats

'lol'


What's the story behind this? I'm not too familiar with the Fire Emblem franchise.
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transcience posted...
so has everyone given up on Zelda? I did after the Fallout 3 match but everyone else had been saying for so long that Zelda is a whole different animal and that Link would have beaten Draven without the downtime, etc.


There's always a very small chance but that chance is looking very very small right now
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transcience posted...
so has everyone given up on Zelda? I did after the Fallout 3 match but everyone else had been saying for so long that Zelda is a whole different animal and that Link would have beaten Draven without the downtime, etc.


I will try, but I don't have confidence in Zelda at all here.

But it's definitely true that Link would've won without downtime. And for what it matters, without Shepard in the poll.
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transcience posted...
so has everyone given up on Zelda? I did after the Fallout 3 match but everyone else had been saying for so long that Zelda is a whole different animal and that Link would have beaten Draven without the downtime, etc.


That was before Undertale proved it could eat Draven for breakfast.

TheCodeisBosco posted...
WhiteLens posted...
Still doesn't top Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/943695-fire-emblem-shadow-dragon/stats

'lol'


What's the story behind this? I'm not too familiar with the Fire Emblem franchise.


There's no story, it's just a generally disliked entry. I think it's pretty decent.
People clearly haven't gotten out of denial because dumb rambling about spamming facebook is still happening. Though there's a lot less vocal support now for OoT now that Melee crashed and burned.
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transcience posted...
so has everyone given up on Zelda? I did after the Fallout 3 match but everyone else had been saying for so long that Zelda is a whole different animal and that Link would have beaten Draven without the downtime, etc.


Ye Snooze, Ye Lose

Believe in Link who believes in GameFAQs

(It depends on it Undertale wants to be a dirty cheater)
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yagam1234 is literally using gay as an insult(I think).
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All bets are off.

This is the only comment that matters.

Whether you have no hope, or lots of it.

Anything can happen in this crazy place.
I also think Ocarina of Time is by far the most likely force to be able to handle Undertale, but everyone has basically given up all hope since Melee (WHY DO YOU GUYS DO THIS) deflated. It depends on if people still care at that point. Ocarina was always going to be rallies and ralliers on its side, it was never a GameFAQs strength only ordeal. That and a high backfire rate comparable to Link.
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Undertale really knows how to bring in the votes. Will the final be GameFAQs vs where undertale's votes come from?
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ctesjbuvf posted...
transcience posted...
so has everyone given up on Zelda? I did after the Fallout 3 match but everyone else had been saying for so long that Zelda is a whole different animal and that Link would have beaten Draven without the downtime, etc.


I will try, but I don't have confidence in Zelda at all here.

But it's definitely true that Link would've won without downtime. And for what it matters, without Shepard in the poll.


didn't you see the Undertale match yesterday? when push comes to shove, Draven would have buried Link. it just never needed to.
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https://www.facebook.com/ZeldaDungeon/

Yet another huge zelda dedicated facebook. We really have no one but ourselves to blame if OoT loses here. It's a shame that between tonight and tomorrow I'll be at work for over 10 hours of the match or I would do everything I possibly could to get one of these pages to post about it.
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R.I.P. Hero of Time, 7 time CB Champion, Link
I jumped onto Undertale after it beat Mass Effect 3. Nothing I've seen has changed my mind.
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Draven was getting eviscerated at the end of that poll. Link was also killing it before the downtime, and I don't believe in this infinite rally business. There's another word for that kind of thing.
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And you don't think Draven would have resorted to that other kind of thing?
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Here's a BOLD Prediction for tomorrow's match

OoT gets demolished in the early board vote, starts to pull away near the freeze. OoT is leading at 10 minutes. OoT continues to build a lead overnight, with a few hiccups here and there
Undertale starts coming back, slowly at first in the morning
The ASV hits and all the pre-pubescent tumblr users start saying 'ZOMG UNDERTALE GREETEST OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111'
OoT gets buried by 6pm
OoT makes the occasional cut, once again getting the deluded users of this site hope
Undertale wins with 51% of the vote. Votals are the highest the contest has seen.
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lol xstats
Undertale got eviscerated during the night and morning yesterday too. then Melee had the gall to take the lead
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Oh, sure, he could have. It just wasn't a 'Draven responds with RALLY,' it would have been Draven responds by cheating and Allen shrugs kinda thing.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Here's a BOLD Prediction for tomorrow's match

OoT gets demolished in the early board vote, starts to pull away near the freeze. OoT is leading at 10 minutes. OoT continues to build a lead overnight, with a few hiccups here and there
Undertale starts coming back, slowly at first in the morning
The ASV hits and all the pre-pubescent tumblr users start saying 'ZOMG UNDERTALE GREETEST OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111'
OoT gets buried by 6pm
OoT makes the occasional cut, once again getting the deluded users of this site hope
Undertale wins with 51% of the vote. Votals are the highest the contest has seen.


Bolded isn't happening.
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Unless people think Ocarina can time taking the lead to the last few updates, it's not gonna be able to successfully come back on Undertale. Even then, that might not work, ralliers are going to be *very* sensitive to incoming pushes at that last hour.
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I mean, Allen confirmed earlier today that it was just rallying, and I'll take that over unsubstantiated claims. I don't want to go down that road but its pretty clear that the Internet is out to push Undertale. good luck rallying Zelda. I'd love to see someone try though.
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I mean, for the most part, I don't think any cheating that does get through would really actually be dealt with, so there comes a time with this kind of thing where you have to realize one side is gonna do what they have to do to win. I definitely disagree with any bought of Ocarina getting 'buried' -- it'll end up close, either way, and Ocarina will be facing Final Form Undertale -- but the number of people who have jumped onto the Undertale bandwagon is a bigger problem in my mind than just Tumblr or whatever. Board 8 is behind Undertale, I would guess.
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Of course by buried, I mean 52-48

Unfortunately when you have 100k+ votes, that's an over 4k lead
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lol xstats
Um Undertale matches have almost all ended up 'close' in terms of percentages. Nothing Ocarina does will be exceptional unless it gets blown out or actually wins.
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Undertale is definitely GotY, but I think Recency Bias has people overrating it in this contest.
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Of course Ocarina will not be buried since it will be another 51-49 %.
But a 51-49 is not enough to make a good match.
That's pretty much exactly why the buried business is over the top! Ocarina will be facing the strongest Undertale yet, and even if it loses with like 52-48, that's way better than the losses other games have suffered during the Path of Destruction 2015!
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TheCodeisBosco posted...
WhiteLens posted...
Still doesn't top Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/943695-fire-emblem-shadow-dragon/stats

'lol'


What's the story behind this? I'm not too familiar with the Fire Emblem franchise.

People just consider it a lazy remake with poor design and hate everything about it.

Still don't think it warrants the mass 0.5 ratings but that's the fanbase for ya.
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12/14/2015 2:23:20 PM#87
transcience posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
transcience posted...
so has everyone given up on Zelda? I did after the Fallout 3 match but everyone else had been saying for so long that Zelda is a whole different animal and that Link would have beaten Draven without the downtime, etc.


I will try, but I don't have confidence in Zelda at all here.

But it's definitely true that Link would've won without downtime. And for what it matters, without Shepard in the poll.


didn't you see the Undertale match yesterday? when push comes to shove, Draven would have buried Link. it just never needed to.


Undertale =/= Draven
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But really, the fact that Ocarina has no one (comparatively) in its corner is the biggest issue going into this. That's the real difference between this and Draven. GameFAQs was a united front on that match, but I feel like Undertale's sales have boosted with each contest win as more people play it and hear about it and then wanna vote for it. That and Melee burned people out on caring to rally. The lead up to this got ruined because Melee is terrible
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WhiteLens posted...
TheCodeisBosco posted...
WhiteLens posted...
Still doesn't top Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/943695-fire-emblem-shadow-dragon/stats

'lol'


What's the story behind this? I'm not too familiar with the Fire Emblem franchise.

People just consider it a lazy remake with poor design and hate everything about it.

Still don't think it warrants the mass 0.5 ratings but that's the fanbase for ya.


And those same people praise FE12 as the second coming.
SMH, lol
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ZFS posted...
That's pretty much exactly why the buried business is over the top! Ocarina will be facing the strongest Undertale yet, and even if it loses with like 52-48, that's way better than the losses other games have suffered during the Path of Destruction 2015!


Actually, that'd be worse than Super Smash Brothers Melee, Super Mario 64, Pokemon RBY, and, of course, Mass Effect 3.
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12/14/2015 2:26:04 PM#91
Also, I'd like to point out that for all this talk of rallies on demand, we've never actually seen a rally produce more than 2 big waves in a 24-hour period- one at night when the poll opens, another in the day.
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A live feed of Link right now as the next match draws near

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Truly the face of a warrior ready for everything!
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Karma Hunter posted...
ZFS posted...
That's pretty much exactly why the buried business is over the top! Ocarina will be facing the strongest Undertale yet, and even if it loses with like 52-48, that's way better than the losses other games have suffered during the Path of Destruction 2015!


Actually, that'd be worse than Super Smash Brothers Melee, Super Mario 64, Pokemon RBY, and, of course, Mass Effect 3.


Karma Hunter savage the whole at through
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WhiteLens posted...
TheCodeisBosco posted...
WhiteLens posted...
Still doesn't top Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/943695-fire-emblem-shadow-dragon/stats

'lol'


What's the story behind this? I'm not too familiar with the Fire Emblem franchise.

People just consider it a lazy remake with poor design and hate everything about it.

Still don't think it warrants the mass 0.5 ratings but that's the fanbase for ya.


Ah, so they "FireRed/LeafGreen'd" it. I see.

If I were to start playing Fire Emblem, where would be the best starting point? Probably the first GBA one we received in the states, yeah?
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12/14/2015 2:28:27 PM#95
And, UT is going to push hard from the beginning, I think. This is the final, and UT fans know this is the champion they're facing. Whether or not there is any real threat, they will perceive one, and press hard.
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ZFS posted...
But really, the fact that Ocarina has no one (comparatively) in its corner is the biggest issue going into this. That's the real difference between this and Draven. GameFAQs was a united front on that match, but I feel like Undertale's sales have boosted with each contest win as more people play it and hear about it and then wanna vote for it. That and Melee burned people out on caring to rally. The lead up to this got ruined because Melee is terrible


That Melee rallying was so pointless. Prevented us from seeing FFVII vs CT, buried FFVII higher than UT would have (if you care about stats) , and in the end, it killed CT and FFVII and brought nothing to the table. Sure it had some huge spikes/votals, but Undertale was never in danger.
So I'm guessing this isn't even a Tumblr deal anymore, right? Like these huge opening pushes are totally at odds with how Tumblr rallies work. Is it a Reddit deal now?
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It's people catching onto the contest and spreading it everywhere. Tumblr, reddit, random gaming message boards, irc chats, I've seen it all.
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12/14/2015 2:30:35 PM#99
ZFS posted...
So I'm guessing this isn't even a Tumblr deal anymore, right? Like these huge opening pushes are totally at odds with how Tumblr rallies work. Is it a Reddit deal now?


I think a lot of the people who were rallied in past rounds know about the contest and come themselves now. Hence it starts pretty much immediately when the poll starts.
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ZFS posted...
But really, the fact that Ocarina has no one (comparatively) in its corner is the biggest issue going into this. That's the real difference between this and Draven. GameFAQs was a united front on that match, but I feel like Undertale's sales have boosted with each contest win as more people play it and hear about it and then wanna vote for it. That and Melee burned people out on caring to rally. The lead up to this got ruined because Melee is terrible


It was pretty awe-inspiring how universally opposed to Draven this site was.

Undertale has nothing on him. People -hated- Draven. Mainly because of how awful the LoL kiddies were during the contest, I'd wager. I know that's the main reason I hated that result - the Draven character himself had nothing to do with it.
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