GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1256
xp1337 posted... Unrallied Melee confirmed to be equal to FFX. Nah. Melee lost in Indonesia! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Good
news everyone, looks like the r/Undertale "Please stop posting about
the GameFAQs poll" sticky will be up through tomorrow as well. Because that sticky isn't exactly what those ralliers want or anything :) --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
i have to decide if i want to go all in character for the oot match like with draven just not sure if i'm feeling it this time =( --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Spoilers OoT/Undertale isn't going to be close --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Karma Hunter posted... Spoilers OoT/Undertale isn't going to be close Depending on the definition of close. 51-49% is close right ? (edited 12/14/2015 9:52:57 AM)report |
I know OoT can't win it, but it's still fun for me to go all out rooting for Link! That's what I meant by being in character! though unlike draven i kinda doubt we'll have the HYPE of the Link comeback attempt. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Using previous spillover polls we are looking at around 84-85k votes today --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > MGS Points 211/352 |
Link/Draven
is the only time we've ever seen someone gaining against a major rally,
not because the rally fizzled, but because they went higher. Link
turned -1000 hours to +1000 hours in the span of an hour or so, without
Draven's rally dying. Granted, Final Form Undertale seems stronger than Draven. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Melee cheating more than Undertale is the icing on this contest cake --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 12/14/2015 9:58:17 AM)report |
Don't be absurd; Undertale was still clearly being powered by rally votes when Melee made its comeback attempt against it. The difference is Link got lucky enough not to take the lead against his opponent. Anyone who thinks Draven wouldn't have turned on a dime and ripped Link apart if he had actually taken the lead is delusional at this point after seeing what Undertale did. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Karma Hunter posted... Good news everyone, looks like the r/Undertale "Please stop posting about the GameFAQs poll" sticky will be up through tomorrow as well. They annoy the hell out of me Like, first the whole thing "man I don't know, we can't beat Mario/Pokemon/Smash/Zelda" And now "guys don't rally anymore, here let's sticky this, see? we don't rally..just don't go vote on GameFAQs today on the finals, ok? you know, the finals against OOT? don't go.." Why do they insist of being so annoying? just admit that you are legion and be done with that --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Karma Hunter posted... Don't be absurd; Undertale was still clearly being powered by rally votes when Melee made its comeback attempt against it. Undertale's rally in the morning was like Draven's rally in the morning. Not really trying. When the lead got down to 2000 or so, Draven DID turn on a dime and turned -1500 hours to +1000. Then, Link turned on a dime and reversed that, without Draven's vote intake falling appreciably. That afternoon counterrally is the impressive thing. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Karma Hunter posted... The difference is Link got lucky enough not to take the lead against his opponent. Anyone who thinks Draven wouldn't have turned on a dime and ripped Link apart if he had actually taken the lead is delusional at this point after seeing what Undertale did. Draven absolutely would have crushed Link if Link had actually managed to get the lead. However that never happened, so when in-character rooting for Link it's more fun to pretend Link could have won. >_> --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Still
wouldn't have been enough. You know what happens when you get within
striking distance of a monster like that? You get what happened to
Snake. There is always another gear when the lead gets threatened, whatever stops those fans have to pull out to get it. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Draven would have crashed Link? how exactly? The reddit thread was up for the entire time Unless you mean Riot putting up an in-game rally, the best thing they could have done was to DDOS the site Yeah --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Honestly,
I don't pretend to understand the mechanics of rallies. I almost treat
them like magic as far as understanding them goes. There is always another gear. There is never any hope. Like, logically, there has to be a limit. There has to be some metric to understand/measure, but I don't think we'll ever see one or understand it. So might as well treat it like magic. >_> --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Karma Hunter posted... Still wouldn't have been enough. You know what happens when you get within striking distance of a monster like that? You get what happened to Snake. There is always another gear when the lead gets threatened, whatever stops those fans have to pull out to get it. Undertale has broad sources of power that can be rallied at need, but Draven just had that subreddit pretty much. The rally was strong when it was at the top, and weak when it fell. The most they could do was ensure it was at the top. And, outside of R2 Draven (which was way overkill, not needed) Undertale has much stronger feats. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
red sox 777 posted... Karma Hunter posted...Still wouldn't have been enough. You know what happens when you get within striking distance of a monster like that? You get what happened to Snake. There is always another gear when the lead gets threatened, whatever stops those fans have to pull out to get it. R2 Draven and "stickied rally during tournaments finals" Draven against Snake He had a 1003 vote update --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
I
know Draven basically had only the LoL subreddit and whatever mojo they
could generate on the periphery. And honestly, by the time Snake was
preparing to take the lead he probably had, on paper, a better chance
than anyone, because given the activity on the subreddit it was proving
difficult to nigh-impossible to get another thread back at the top of
the front page. Then the League of Stickies happened coincidentally as he was about to take the lead, and we all know what happened after that. I know we tell ourselves that it was Smurf's fault as a pleasant fiction, but it's not true. Never has been. All they cared about was getting Draven to win and Smurf's buffoonery was just a convenient scapegoat in coming up with whatever rationalizations after the fact they could to do it. That's the next gear. Don't ever doubt that they would have done the same thing to Link. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
xp1337 posted... Honestly, I don't pretend to understand the mechanics of rallies. I almost treat them like magic as far as understanding them goes. There is always another gear. There is never any hope. Well technically, Melee kinda collapsed and reached it's limit, while I'm sure it should still have a lot more votes to pull, even after all those pros twitted and the reddit rally was exausted. (edited 12/14/2015 10:17:27 AM)report |
I
should probably clarify that. I mean "super" rallies like Draven and
Undertale. I think those are the only two I'd place in that category. Melee, by comparison, seemed to act kind of... understandably? Though I'd guess it was probably the strongest rally that wasn't the above two. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Melee
did the same thing against Chrono Trigger. CT was on pace for a
thrilling comeback, and what happened? SSBM found another gear. The bigger rally doesn't lose once it's in the lead. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Another admission. I didn't really pay attention to Melee/CT. Once Melee took over I knew it was over. ...Really I have increasingly tuned out of the contest since the rallies happened. I just can't bring myself to be invested anymore. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Also just saying this again If it turns out that it's somehow close tomorrow, like I know there is a zero chance but IF it's close... We should prepare a mega rally of some kind everyf***ingwhere when the Smash direct is about to start/ends The amount of Nintendo fans online at any message board is going to be so high OOT might get a big f***ing spike for like 2 hours Not like it will help, but if there is any hope, this is it --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Karma Hunter posted... Good news everyone, looks like the r/Undertale "Please stop posting about the GameFAQs poll" sticky will be up through tomorrow as well. Oh wait, there was a "don't post about gamefaqs" post on the undertale reddit? That at least partially explains its leap in strength |
Karma Hunter posted... Good news everyone, looks like the r/Undertale "Please stop posting about the GameFAQs poll" sticky will be up through tomorrow as well. ...when people said posting about it was banned, there was actually a sticky? Are you guys even real --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
Finally the Reddit bronies won't influence the contest anymore. --- You dare bring light to my lair? YOU MUST DIE! - CDI Ganon |
That sticky will help much more than another thread could've, good job Undertale board admins. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
ctesjbuvf posted... That sticky will help much more than another thread could've, good job Undertale board admins. Reddit moderators, we meet again. |
I
think Link was the bigger rallied character at the end of the Draven
match. Draven did kick it in another gear and link just went higher. It
ran out of time unfortunately. I agree with KH that rallies are proving too organic to have a "ceiling". If you have fans invested in the result they will push harder and get more people involved and it can spread virally from there if 1 in every 10 people you rally gets as invested as you are. The only way I see oot having a chance is if zeldadrones get so offended with some indie game they've never heard of taking down mother f***ing OOT that they go full out to rally their friends and it spreads faster. It's less difficult to rally Zelda than melee because who the hell hates Zelda? It's such a revered series in gaming and oot is widely hailed as the best ever, or is at least non-offensive to people to hold that title. You might also have a lot of melee fans from reddit spilling over to help get revenge. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Nanis23 posted... Also just saying this again This is the only hope --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Safer_777 posted... For a semifinal match this is boring. That is what happens when one game is so strong. And yet all contest we've had everyone going on about how Ocarina looked much weaker this contest compared to the rest of the field. We're literally getting stats that indicate Super Metroid 60-40'ing any MGS game and therefore Mario Galaxy challenging them. I'm starting to think Super Metroid caught a bandwagon against Majora's Mask, because Galaxy is looking much stronger than it has ever indicated itself to be. For all we know maybe newer Mario games get stronger the older they get? Like, who on earth picks Galaxy to challenge RE4 pre-contest? Just for laughs, what is Galaxy projected to get on Call of Duty 4? And how do Goldeneye vs. Mario RPG and Prime vs. Vice City go now? Wow 2009 sure was a different time! --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Yeah,
I mean, I'm not too optimistic at this point, but it's the final match,
so let's give it a go. That Smash direct is quite might just be what is
needed. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
FF fans might be watching for cloud too so you could rally them --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
If anyone's stupid enough to think SMRPG's not getting SFF pounded here and that Super Mario Galaxy would beat Resident Evil 4, by all means, take that upset. Maybe it'll turn out just as good as Super Mario Galaxy 2 > Mass Effect! --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... FF fans might be watching for cloud too so you could rally them so FFVII fans' first rally of halfway notable size would be for ocarina of time? how fitting --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Karma Hunter posted... If anyone's stupid enough to think SMRPG's not getting SFF pounded here and that Super Mario Galaxy would beat Resident Evil 4, by all means, take that upset. Oh okay so Super Mario RPG would beat Final Fantasy IX and possibly threaten Link to the Past? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Karma Hunter posted... If anyone's stupid enough to think SMRPG's not getting SFF pounded here and that Super Mario Galaxy would beat Resident Evil 4, by all means, take that upset. It's LMS --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... It's less difficult to rally Zelda than melee because who the hell hates Zelda? It's such a revered series in gaming and oot is widely hailed as the best ever, or is at least non-offensive to people to hold that title. . It does have the issue of "always winning". I mean if you have people who don't really care about either OoT or Undertale they will probably vote for Undertale , because who would support something that already won one quadrillion awards against an indie game ? |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... Karma Hunter posted...If anyone's stupid enough to think SMRPG's not getting SFF pounded here and that Super Mario Galaxy would beat Resident Evil 4, by all means, take that upset. It's not like RE4 was exactly a worldbeater this contest. 59% on New Vegas and 64% on Dragon Age look fairly comparable. Given the way this went I wouldn't be surprised it would happen. I wouldn't pick the upset out of my love for RE4. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Rallying
for Ocarina is going to have notable backfire because as others have
stated, well, it's pathetic. Everyone knows OoT always wins, on a lot
more sites than just GameFAQs. Undertale is gonna have big Underdog
support. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Who votes for an indie game over Ocarina of damn Time who are these jokers --- satoru iwata |
The
narrative is indie darling with a loyal and devoted fanbase against the
biggest game from that series that always dominates on this site. Hell,
I'm sure even without rallies Undertale would put on one hell of a
performance (though don't get me wrong, it'll definitely need those
rallies to win, but it'll do so with ease). I really don't see OoT rallying strength the same way Link did last contest. Undertale certainly has a lot more likability as a game than some random character from the divisive League of Legends. That and Undertale has been snowballing in strength and has a near-bottomless well of support it continuously draws from if ever so much as threatened. The only question is whether the fanbase will go all-out for the final to crush OoT into fine paste or continue to keep things close. --- Not_Wylvane |
Not_Wylvane posted... Hell, I'm sure even without rallies Undertale would put on one hell of a performance (though don't get me wrong, it'll definitely need those rallies to win, but it'll do so with ease). I guess this is why it was getting s***stomped by 12,000 votes first round until the rallying started. --- Warning: I am a satirical person and don't care for other's sensitivities. If you have a problem with this, please block me and go away. |
Vayu_The_End posted... Not_Wylvane posted...Hell, I'm sure even without rallies Undertale would put on one hell of a performance (though don't get me wrong, it'll definitely need those rallies to win, but it'll do so with ease). He means right now with the bandwagon. The base strength has increased a lot. I'm pretty sure Undertale would easily beat Mass Effect 3 right now, even without rallies. |
Yeah,
bandwagons are a real thing. It's why despite the much more popular
competition each time, Undertale never really got crushed like round 1
would say. People like being part of the underdog story. --- satoru iwata |
ZFS posted... Yeah, bandwagons are a real thing. It's why despite the much more popular competition each time, Undertale never really got crushed like round 1 would say. People like being part of the underdog story. That's kind of odd too. Does ANYONE think Undertale is the Underdog in this contest anymore? --- Warning: I am a satirical person and don't care for other's sensitivities. If you have a problem with this, please block me and go away. |
I dunno about easily, but it would be much closer at minimum. Also, I'm betting most people have no idea about who wins on GameFAQs or care if a game already has awards. They care about voting for a game they like. You shouldn't overstate the popularity of the opinions of vocally informed voters. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
The annoying underdog absorbed the votes. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
Vayu_The_End posted... ZFS posted...Yeah, bandwagons are a real thing. It's why despite the much more popular competition each time, Undertale never really got crushed like round 1 would say. People like being part of the underdog story. How many people actually follow the contest closely ? I mean casual voters who vote maybe 3 times and probably even miss some matches won't know it won that way. |